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09:03 Vtrender Live : 5 min NF charts – https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/135301005
09:03 Chandrashekhar : GM all
09:04 Rahul : morning all
09:04 Vtrender Live : 5 min BNF charts – https://zoom.us/j/8647755698?pwd=U1FVY2NpUXIzZlVWKzc0azhORlNqQT09
09:05 Nisha : GM All
09:05 Ranjith : Gm all
09:05 Ankush Jain : GM all
09:05 Ravi : gm all
09:05 Vishnu : all
09:06 B. G. : Good morning!
09:09 Shai : GM all
09:09 Shai : Broader auctions in both indices forming a balance
09:09 Nisha : GM All
09:09 Shai : work with 14510- 14770 range for NF
09:10 Shai : work with 32250- 33200 for BNF
09:10 Shai : 14630 ref zone for the day in NF
09:10 Shai : 32650 in BNF
09:13 Uttam : Good Morning All 🙂
09:13 Uttam : https://vtrender.com/market-profile-analysis-dated-05th-may-2021/
09:20 Uttam : BNF goign for an ORR?
09:20 Surya ganti : looks like
09:20 Uttam : prominent POC there at 32680
09:20 Uttam : if remains below 32951
09:22 Chandrashekhar : PDH holding in NF so far
09:23 Uttam : NF would get wekaer below 14691
09:23 Chandrashekhar : +1
09:24 Chandrashekhar : how is thevols Uttam?
09:24 Uttam : looks like want to settle into an OA and not ORR
09:25 Uttam : for ORR vols should go up
09:25 Uttam : in this period next 5-10 mins
09:26 Bhishma : charts stuck?
09:27 Uttam : room charts stuck
09:27 Uttam : zoom & GoTo fine
09:28 KK : 700 PE has o=h
09:29 Uttam : even 14600ce
09:29 Ankush Jain : chrts stuck?
09:29 MJ : Day to writers?
09:29 KK : 600 CE has sellers at 110, unless it crosses that
09:30 KK : more trades in selling 700 CE below 90
09:30 MJ : Last expiry after massive volatility too they managed that 14900 combo.
09:30 MJ : Lets see if we find something.
09:31 MJ : 677 is supp nf (prev ref for me)
09:32 KK : booked 82 to 74,,
09:32 Uttam : OA in both low vols
09:32 Chandrashekhar : +1 677 seller tested yesterday….is NF trying to test that 760-770 seller today?
09:32 Uttam : lets test those morning 0s in NF
09:32 Chandrashekhar : 710 VAH in comp as well
09:33 Chandrashekhar : would be nice if it could stay above
09:34 Uttam : this holding (09:23) Uttam : NF would get wekaer below 14691
09:34 Govind : is @Suyog here? Index table is not updating btw, please can you look? THanks
09:34 Uttam : ping him on slack Gov
09:35 Govind : done
09:35 Uttam : 88-96.9 50% out in 14600ce
09:35 Shai : 14684- 14760 range
09:35 Uttam : rest kept for 105
09:36 Uttam : all out
09:36 Uttam : boom boom
09:36 Sumeet : reds
09:36 Sumeet : booking
09:36 Chandrashekhar : 1 k reds in NF
09:36 KK : 70 to 55 out now
09:37 KK : Now 600 Ce has to show
09:37 Chandrashekhar : room charts stuck…goto working
09:37 MJ : 1090 red at 740 nf
09:39 Chandrashekhar : thanks Shai
09:39 MJ : 690 – 735 part out, TSL at vwap– (09:31) MJ : 677 is supp nf (prev ref for me)
09:42 Ankush Jain : 1096 red
09:42 Govind : NF has shown fatigue at the highs in the previous 2 days. Waiting for the scenery to develop is a better option IMO and am particularly looking for strength/weakness right here around the highs
09:43 Surendra : is 1096 fresh seller in NF?
09:43 Chandrashekhar : +1 Gov
09:43 Chandrashekhar : waiting for follow up selling/red bands for short confirmation
09:43 KK : looks like NF plans to rotate much closer to VWAP and BNF with wider rotations
09:43 MJ : dpoc has moved up.
09:44 Chandrashekhar : +1 MJ
09:44 MJ : exited as of now nf.
09:45 Chandrashekhar : 710 is VAH…waiting for break..so we canlook for 80% as well
09:45 Chandrashekhar : B here
09:45 MJ : Will review above 1k nf.
09:51 Chandrashekhar : was that iK red a frsh sell?? or long exiting?
09:51 MJ : C, we can’t really make out just by the print on OF. But the entry pushed dpoc up.
09:52 Surya ganti : so that cud mostly be profit booking?
09:54 Govind : another flat top in NF
09:55 MJ : 33kpe 280-333 @Jit thanks again 🙂 (09:43) MJ : dpoc has moved up.
09:55 Chandrashekhar : +1 MJ
09:56 MJ : Thanks C.
09:56 Chandrashekhar : that 159 flag ade you exit?
09:56 Uttam : RS that is so old business which means longs booking – (09:51) Chandrashekhar : was that iK red a frsh sell?? or long exiting?
09:57 Chandrashekhar : or any other ref??
09:57 Uttam : 14714 holding
09:57 K2dt : come on nf break vwap
09:57 MJ : @Chandra that flag and yes, 800-880 zone of prev 2 days.
09:58 Mayur P : BNF that prominent POC calling?
09:58 Uttam : we did not get more vols (reds) for that Mayur
09:58 Uttam : BNF low vols so can swipe
09:58 Uttam : but yee below 32951 PLR down
09:59 Mayur P : ok Thanks UG
09:59 Chandrashekhar : both below Vwap now
09:59 Uttam : OA
09:59 Uttam : so vwap hugging will be on – no cosial distancing 😉
09:59 Uttam : social*
09:59 Sumeet : 🙂
09:59 Uttam : needs fresh vols for a move away
10:02 K2dt : nf smaller the IB..sweeter the later part can be :))
10:02 Ashwin : thanks MJ, following it (09:57) MJ : @Chandra that flag and yes, 800-880 zone of prev 2 days.
10:02 Shai : 1079 lots right at top cut off all demand in NF
10:02 K2dt : provided we get vols
10:02 Shai : open auction
10:02 K2dt : +1 chief
10:02 Sumeet : 14700 ce guys defending their turf i guess
10:04 MJ : @ashwin Open auction so I just cut my trade there, Not a fresh long opprtunity that flag was.
10:06 MJ : On an Open auction days, 3 prominent places flags can come is at vwap dval dvah. High priority to dval/dvah flags for fade.
10:07 Ashwin : okay, getting it. just observing for now
10:10 Mayur P : 0’s at bottom in BNF?
10:12 Sanjib : BNF for a C side, anyone?
10:12 Chandrashekhar : +1
10:12 Chandrashekhar : 818 greens…in BNF
10:13 KK : 700 PE for 85 ?
10:16 Chandrashekhar : C side in BNF
10:16 Shai : +1- (10:06) MJ : On an Open auction days, 3 prominent places flags can come is at vwap dval dvah. High priority to dval/dvah flags for fade.
10:17 Chandrashekhar : NF as well in C side
10:17 Sumeet : 14700 pe 54-82 booked 75%
10:17 Chandrashekhar : nice KK..(10:13) KK : 700 PE for 85 ?
10:17 KK : 92 booked half
10:17 MJ : Cheers KK
10:17 Sumeet : Super kk
10:18 Rahul : nice kk
10:18 KK : 90 were the sellers, lets see for 10 more, if comes, other wise SL at 85
10:18 MJ : 636 lele abhi nf?
10:18 MJ : yest big reds 14661.xx remember
10:18 Milind : Where is NF heading to Chief?
10:18 MJ : ?
10:19 Shai : 14630 doable
10:20 Milind : SL Please
10:21 MJ : 318 makes me fade nf. small invalidation at 655.
10:21 MJ : boarded 674
10:21 Rajesh G : yes mj
10:22 Rajesh G : mj target u looking for
10:22 MJ : 700 then vwap
10:22 MJ : IBL C low closeby.
10:22 MJ : but C is young. hence very small SL.
10:23 Rajesh G : ok
10:23 MJ : Also guys please note, my sl is out of profit. I will trade an agressive trade when I have added some greens for the day.
10:23 KK : let me also sell a small PE then, MJ ?
10:23 MJ : 🙂
10:27 KK : chalo chalo
10:27 RajeshN : 14700 pe seeing selling in 90’s
10:27 Sanjib : there’s a lag in room charts
10:28 Uttam : its fine for me
10:28 KK : 90 to 80 back in that PE , SL 95..switching to bnf
10:29 MJ : Switching and how! KK cheers.
10:30 Ankush Jain : 14700 ce 40-20, 50% booked
10:31 Ankush Jain : that 1000 lot reds 🙂
10:31 Surya ganti : room charts stuck
10:31 Chandrashekhar : lag in room charts
10:32 Shai : 14716 -22 is the new selling
10:33 Mayur P : @Shai short here? SL?
10:33 Shai : RR not good
10:33 Shai : wait mode still
10:33 Mayur P : ok
10:33 Shai : let vol add
10:34 Prashant : Shai, very rare that the charts move in 1 second increment..
10:36 KK : bnf for 640 , is it after that red bar ?
10:36 Sanjib : yVAH providing support? #NF
10:37 Sunil : since ‘C’ already crossed IBL so C ext trade is done .. right?
10:37 Himanshu : Pd Vwap gives some nagging
10:37 MJ : chotu ib today in nf.
10:38 RajeshN : yes HDFC getting pumped
10:39 MJ : @sunil IBL is first step, abv vwap is what we got to see now, for C.
10:40 Sunil : ok
10:41 Mayur P : 432 greens can take it there? (10:36) KK : bnf for 640 , is it after that red bar ?
10:42 Uttam : D gearing up for a fresh RE?
10:42 Sunil : MJ my bad … I though C extended above IBH …
10:42 Surya ganti : stuck to 30min ref bar as if it was dpoc
10:42 Surya ganti : 😀
10:43 Uttam : vols on lower side in both
10:43 Bhishma : bnf support at PD vwap?
10:44 Chandrashekhar : YVah for NF holding now
10:44 Chandrashekhar : need vol for a move here
10:44 KK : D has to do it
10:44 MJ : 700 removed waiting if we go higher. (10:22) MJ : 700 then vwap
10:45 MJ : Order removed.
10:51 Uttam : C doing its work
10:51 Uttam : vwap here
10:51 MJ : not yet @UG
10:51 MJ : aur chaie
10:51 Yash : are you guys looking for FA?
10:52 MJ : Vol needs to build in D
10:52 MJ : 540 lots on 5 min is kachra seth vols.
10:56 Govind : If you are new here, I hope you were not tempted into rushing your trades this morning. As Shai had mentioned this morning, NF is still trying to figure out whether to stay or leave its long running ‘theme’ that started on April 12th. Please revisit the open auction rules, remember Shai’s levels and wait for big volumes. 09:42 Govind : NF has shown fatigue at the highs in the previous 2 days. Waiting for the scenery to develop is a better option IMO and am particularly looking for strength/weakness right here around the highs
10:56 Uttam : 14710 is the is in NF and this pull back came right there
10:56 Uttam : +100 Gov
10:57 Uttam : context is the king in MP
10:57 Shai : ++- (10:56) Govind : If you are new here, I hope you were not tempted into rushing your trades this morning. As Shai had mentioned this morning, NF is still trying to figure out whether to stay or leave its long running ‘theme’ that started on April 12th. Please revisit the open auction rules, remember Shai’s levels and wait for big volumes. 09:42 Govind : NF has shown fatigue at the highs in the previous 2 days. Waiting for the scenery to develop is a better option IMO and am particularly looking for strength/weakness right here around the highs
10:57 MJ : +++ gov
10:57 Uttam : OF gives us the blueprint of what is happnig in the bigger tf
10:57 Mayur P : +1 Govind
10:57 Sanjib : +100 Gov
10:58 Uttam : the set up is good today for some dukaan trades 🙂
10:58 Prashant : Govind is always great with his big picture view…
10:58 Uttam : so lets wait for the G & K periods #OA
10:58 Uttam : +1 P
10:58 Uttam : it is very imp
10:59 MJ : opening one question on OA day. Shai was reading a tweet by Deepak. Shenoy. You think retail equity investors will be 45% in non derivative segment?
10:59 MJ : says fy21 has 45% retail guys.
11:00 MJ : i was surprised by that kind of retail number.
11:00 MJ : Opened both orders. Dekhte hai kaha jaye
11:00 K2dt : also he said that index futs retail is a big participant! hard to believe
11:00 Uttam : BNF also completing the vwap tag
11:01 Uttam : C living upto its reputation
11:01 MJ : Yeah kush.
11:01 MJ : crazy nos, retail sheep needs to be monitored too.
11:01 Sunil : but the vol is still not there… does that have any bearing
11:02 K2dt : the algos r pitch perfect in their presence…i wonder if retail has that kind of knowledge of “levels” !!
11:02 Uttam : C is best known for low vols only Sunil
11:02 Uttam : high vols negates the C side set up
11:02 MJ : DOP cross gunning.
11:02 MJ : nf
11:02 Surya ganti : G is govind period?
11:03 MJ : Jai mata di!!!
11:03 Uttam : G is God period too 🙂
11:03 Vishnu : banknifty taking support from yesterday vwap and neuext vwap.
11:03 Surya ganti : 😀
11:04 KK : done on the down
11:08 KK : bnf vwap
11:09 Shai : Give me a few minutes guys, have to reassign the room
11:09 Uttam : sure Shai
11:10 Shai : Please shift for a few minutes to the join me and go to charts
11:12 MJ : This needs to be taken out (10:32) Shai : 14716 -22 is the new selling
11:13 Chandrashekhar : +1 .. low vols as well
11:13 Gopi : 2589 bnf
11:14 Rahul : ooo
11:14 Gopi : greens
11:14 KK : 32700 PE from 180 to 240
11:14 Sanjib : 14716 to 14690 based on this from Shai (10:32) Shai : 14716 -22 is the new selling
11:15 Milind : There is significant diff between 14700 CE and PE prices. What could be the reason?
11:15 Uttam : by hook or crook BNF kar hi diya jo usko karna tha
11:15 Uttam : (09:20) Uttam : prominent POC there at 32680(09:20) Uttam : if remains below 32951
11:16 Chandrashekhar : eoA in BNF??
11:16 MJ : Milind spot vs F.
11:16 Sumeet : big guns coming out
11:16 Uttam : 2661 green
11:16 Milind : thanks MJ
11:16 Milind : got it
11:16 MJ : Out of this trade. (10:21) MJ : 318 makes me fade nf. small invalidation at 655.(10:21) MJ : boarded 674
11:16 Uttam : for weekly expiry better to play deep in the money CE / PE – (11:15) Milind : There is significant diff between 14700 CE and PE prices. What could be the reason?
11:16 MJ : vols weren’t giving me confidence in D
11:17 KK : no charts
11:17 MJ : Looked it might cross 716-22 zone. but failed.
11:17 RajeshN : 14700 pe at 90 is still getting sold
11:18 Rahul : psvwap
11:18 Govind : lockdown in Kerala from 8th to 16th
11:18 Uttam : BNF IS bar had 32893 and this VWAP tag made a high of 32888 and vwap rejection gave that yPOC tag
11:18 Uttam : 32888 was also yPOC volume wise
11:18 Vishnu : cases are increasing thr govind
11:19 Uttam : you not in Kerala V?
11:19 Prashant : Did the gujarat guys read the story on covid cases reporting there?
11:19 Prashant : If that is the situation there, then imagine elsewhere
11:20 Uttam : NF getting rejected from VAH of the 3day comp
11:20 Prashant : some 10 x underreporting
11:20 Uttam : so the weekly balance is on
11:21 K2dt : its true P..i can vouch for that.. 8-10x actual vs reported
11:21 Prashant : wd 80% rule apply to that and travel to other side?
11:21 Prashant : https://twitter.com/deepakpatel_91/status/1390158373841113089
11:21 Uttam : BNF has been OTF down
11:21 Prashant : now imagine other less developed states..scary
11:23 Uttam : NF now going for RE?
11:23 Surya ganti : for someone to be reported as a covid death.. the rtcpcr test needs to be postive, which is turning negative a lot
11:24 Uttam : fresh RE i meant
11:24 Chandrashekhar : EOA in NF??
11:24 Surya ganti : SL order?
11:24 Uttam : 0s for now at lows
11:24 Prashant : 988
11:24 Uttam : lets wait for the bar to finish
11:25 Chandrashekhar : now both have 0’s below…
11:25 Uttam : 14665
11:25 MJ : bnf dpoc shifted.
11:25 Ankush Jain : 15
11:25 Ankush Jain : 14700 ce<15
11:26 KK : time to sell 32500 PE, MJ ?
11:26 MJ : 🙂
11:26 MJ : I am long 2661 my man.
11:26 MJ : 988 too
11:26 Uttam : 32870 dPOC in BNF
11:27 MJ : Invalidation nf 636. bnf 700
11:27 MJ : UG 723 na dpoc
11:27 MJ : bnf
11:27 Uttam : (11:26) Uttam : 32870 dPOC in BNF
11:28 MJ : box value and OF charts showing 723
11:28 Uttam : there on profile as well as MPLite
11:28 Shai : Buy 14600 call at 63 sl of 50 tgt 92
11:28 Govind : 14680 (series vpoc & 3-day vpoc) and the zone around it is seeing decent absorption by bidders. This has to break decisively for any short opps, or going up
11:28 MJ : UG dpoc on OF you don't take as a value?
11:28 Govind : +1…11:28 Shai : Buy 14600 call at 63 sl of 50 tgt 92
11:29 Shai : Eoa at lows in NF
11:29 Shai : should go back and test the supplt at 14720/ 14740
11:29 Shai : Auction is slow today
11:29 Shai : make sure you add patience with your orders
11:29 Surya ganti : lol
11:30 Shai : else don't trade
11:30 Shai : 🙂
11:30 MJ : 🙂
11:30 MJ : Chief for fast trades we go with dpoc of OF?
11:31 MJ : imho OF dpoc is the most dynamic one.
11:31 Jitender : trail Sl to cost (11:26) MJ : I am long 2661 my man.(11:27) MJ : Invalidation nf 636. bnf 700
11:32 MJ : Yes 🙂
11:32 Jitender : dpoc+LLT gave 2 safe trades …one in nf & one in bnf….setuptrading
11:32 MJ : But dpoc value kya hai jit? 🙂
11:32 Sumeet : ditto trade MJ… thanks for the SL tip Jit
11:32 Jitender : +1
11:33 Jitender : MJ…trade perspectv…730 is SL now
11:33 Jitender : for us tat matters
11:33 Jitender : (11:32) MJ : But dpoc value kya hai jit? 🙂
11:33 Jitender : unless u wanna upload again…either u get a sharp rejection of same algo will print more tere to help
11:34 Jitender : or same*
11:34 Sanjib : 14690 is HVN
11:34 MJ : +100
11:34 MJ : thanks Jit.
11:34 Jitender : +1
11:35 Jitender : 790-810 slight congestion zone
11:36 RajeshN : Eoa at low mean ?
11:36 Jitender : trail gentlemen..if in
11:36 Sumeet : thanks jit… invaluable insight from your thinking process
11:36 Jitender : wc
11:37 Muralidhar Kaja : @UG is it a FA in NF or we will know only bythe afternoon?
11:37 MJ : 690 nf and 780 bnf 50% out. TSL up.
11:37 MJ : (11:26) MJ : I am long 2661 my man.(11:26) MJ : 988 too(11:27) MJ : Invalidation nf 636. bnf 700
11:37 Uttam : no FA @M as we have been below IBL for more than 30mins
11:37 Mayur P : Thanks Jit. Peek into a genious mind!
11:38 Muralidhar Kaja : Thanks (11:37) Uttam : no FA @M as we have been below IBL for more than 30mins
11:39 Shai : +1- (11:32) Jitender : dpoc+LLT gave 2 safe trades …one in nf & one in bnf….setuptrading
11:40 Shai : refer to training libarary links – (11:36) RajeshN : Eoa at low mean ?
11:40 MJ : TSLed bnf.
11:40 Sanjib : 14690 not giving gate pass (11:34) Sanjib : 14690 is HVN
11:41 MJ : 🙂
11:41 MJ : woh gate mein thoda oiling karna hai.
11:41 MJ : buying time.
11:41 Sanjib : 🙂
11:41 Chandrashekhar : Gate ka key G mein milega lagta hein
11:41 Chandrashekhar : G for Gate
11:42 MJ : Now oiling hoga ya oil spill hoga.
11:42 MJ : watch out.
11:42 Uttam : both NF & BNF tagged exactly the 1.5 IB down
11:42 Uttam : and got a RB
11:42 Yash : was that Gov at 723 in BNF? Gov, was that you ? Up for 33400? 😀
11:43 Surya ganti : POCs aligning MJ
11:43 MJ : Not just today's vol Prev days are also here. (11:40) Sanjib : 14690 not giving gate pass (11:34) Sanjib : 14690 is HVN
11:44 MJ : @surya
11:44 Sanjib : Yes MJ…
11:44 MJ : hence that poc line.
11:44 Surya ganti : +1
11:45 Surya ganti : gatepass aaya
11:45 Sanjib : +1
11:45 Uttam : OTF stops in BNF
11:46 Shai : 75 book half- (11:28) Shai : Buy 14600 call at 63 sl of 50 tgt 92
11:46 Shai : sl at 62 now on rest
11:46 Shai : stay in some
11:46 Uttam : +100 Shai
11:46 Shai : chance of 760 also there
11:47 Shai : eyes at vwap then in BNF- (11:45) Uttam : OTF stops in BNF
11:47 Shai : has potential for sharp upsides
11:47 Chandrashekhar : chrts stuck?
11:47 MJ : I've done a small jugard put goto charts on top of todays room charts.
11:48 MJ : so chat + goto both working.
11:49 Surya ganti : even better.. add a 6-7k ka second screen.. have NF goto fixed on it
11:50 K2dt : https://vtrender.slack.com/archives/C0F2VRTPW/p1620281970124200
11:50 K2dt : i do this just to be safe
11:50 Sanjib : Fake gatepass :-)(11:45) Surya ganti: gatepass aaya
11:50 Chandrashekhar : Vwap gate pass kab milega?
11:50 Surya ganti : lol
11:50 Jitender : SL swipe (11:35) Jitender : 790-810 slight congestion zone
11:51 Shai : +1
11:52 Mayur P : +1
11:53 Yash : 32600ce, support at 180
11:53 MJ : 2day bnf profile needs polishing on top
11:54 MJ : but aaj expiry. so caution over everything.
11:55 Sumeet : watching ril. bit of a spurt there
11:55 MJ : Sumeet mat jao udhar. you needed here.
11:56 MJ : 760 karva do 😛
11:56 Gopi : RIL working hard
11:56 Sumeet : haha will not cheat on nf-bnf pehla pyaar
11:56 Chandrashekhar : yes please..760 chahiye
11:57 Sumeet : but good to know motabhai firing to help for 760
11:58 Shai : test on high of 14714- (11:29) Shai : Eoa at lows in NF(11:29) Shai : should go back and test the supplt at 14720/ 14740
11:58 MJ : Cheers
11:58 Shai : one green here will send it to 760
11:58 Chandrashekhar : banks aslso slowly recovering
11:58 MJ : 716-22 morning wale logo ko hatao
11:58 Shai : isn't EOA awesome ?
11:58 Sumeet : super
11:58 Rahul : yeppp
11:58 Chandrashekhar : awesome se upar
11:58 Mayur P : hell yea
11:58 RajeshN : still not got what is EOA
11:58 MJ : EOA is Shai tukda.
11:59 Mayur P : LOL
11:59 Shai : lol
11:59 Anand : But Chief.. still difficult to differentiate between EOA & SL..
11:59 Uttam : @Rajesh have you gone through the Training Library vidioes? – (11:58) RajeshN : still not got what is EOA
12:00 Sumeet : Rajesh end of auction… when you generally see a largeish number and string of zeros. generally indicates that the auction in that direction is over and reversal may start…. subject to OF confirmation.
12:00 Yash : bnf ce writers feeling heat?
12:00 Rajesh G : 424 darna nahi
12:00 Surya ganti : isnt that why we have a team here? (11:59) Anand : But Chief.. still difficult to differentiate between EOA & SL..
12:00 Surya ganti : discuss.. no one knows with 100% certainty
12:01 Yash : such trades are fun when everyone goes after same trade!
12:01 Yash : helps conviction !
12:01 Surya ganti : +1 yash
12:01 Shai : It is complex sometimes – (11:59) Anand : But Chief.. still difficult to differentiate between EOA & SL..
12:01 Mayur P : Yes Yash feels like wolf hunting pack
12:02 Shai : But only because it is a dynamic read of the tape
12:02 Yash : when in Contra, you can avoid trade, if you dont earn anything fine, you dont lose either, probability of winning trade!
12:02 Shai : you have to have 3 to 5 set of zeros
12:02 Mayur P : +1 Shai
12:02 Shai : minimum
12:02 Shai : And the volume read is relative
12:02 Ankush Jain : +1
12:02 Anand : we've seen that even SLO's can have more than 5 0s cheif
12:02 Shai : you cannot go with fixed number as auction moves with diff volumes
12:03 Shai : for instance here at lows we had 988 lots print
12:03 Ankush Jain : 84 that ce
12:03 Shai : we have not seen 988 lot print since the open volume at 14740
12:03 Shai : so that made it effective
12:03 Shai : Hope that helps
12:04 MJ : yes and some greens adding from prev c period at 670-80 zone
12:04 Anand : ok
12:04 Shai : This was the big one in IB- (10:02) Shai : 1079 lots right at top cut off all demand in NF
12:04 Shai : he killed off demand
12:04 Ankush Jain : it was a very high prob. short
12:04 Mayur P : Today i also got higher conviction because NF with some lag got big greens in sync
12:05 Sanjib : chart stuck
12:06 Mayur P : *in sync with BNF
12:06 KK : nf is on
12:07 Shai : Move sl to 71 in the 14600 ce and hold
12:07 Shai : roughly 14690 in NF
12:07 Shai : one green band here will set it up
12:07 Surya ganti : the tough zone of 690
12:07 Chandrashekhar : Koak/HDFC/SBIN on the verge of gettng to green…push here will activate BNF i guess
12:08 Chandrashekhar : kotak*
12:08 Sadees : 3 POCs at 14710
12:10 Yash : 870 being pain!
12:11 Shai : reviused tgt 148 in 14600 ce
12:11 Shai : sl at 71
12:11 Surya ganti : whoa
12:11 Yash : dop cleared in nf, bnf ko kya he ab!
12:11 Surya ganti : any targets for bnf chief.. looks like a laggard today so far
12:11 Prashant : no vol in nf
12:14 Ankush Jain : 14700 ce guys holding off
12:14 Chandrashekhar : some late writers have booked in it…but still OI is huge in it
12:15 Chandrashekhar : above DH in NF may show their strenth/weakness
12:15 Ankush Jain : maybe above 26/27 they can panic
12:16 Yash : looks like bnf is going for it now,
12:17 MJ : vaathi coming?
12:17 Chandrashekhar : chale?
12:18 Ankush Jain : here it goes
12:18 Chandrashekhar : G ka gate khula
12:18 Chandrashekhar : MJ no FIB today??
12:19 MJ : 14-28 EOA 14700 ce
12:19 Ankush Jain : 98
12:19 Prashant : vpoc moves up
12:19 MJ : Aap kardalo aaj 🙂
12:19 Ashwin : @MJ 673 green at dvah in NF
12:19 Uttam : NF on for 14775 Sha?
12:19 Uttam : BNF nback to that 32951
12:19 MJ : small IB hai
12:19 MJ : back ke rehna 🙂
12:19 MJ : @Ashwin.
12:20 Ankush Jain : lots of greens
12:20 MJ : no fade yet.
12:20 Uttam : smal but imp signal – (11:45) Uttam : OTF stops in BNF
12:20 MJ : @ashwin.
12:20 MJ : for you
12:20 Ashwin : alright MJ
12:20 Prashant : new hihg+ stop run+ 0s dedo
12:20 MJ : 716-22 zone that shai mentioned. only below that
12:21 MJ : else going for that dhi
12:21 Ashwin : in Shai's trade and watching this as well
12:21 MJ : perfect!
12:21 Chandrashekhar : good OI unwinding happening in 14700 CE
12:22 Milind : NF Target Shai?
12:22 MJ : ye lo
12:22 MJ : Prashant
12:22 Ankush Jain : 1340 red
12:22 Sumeet : 4 digits again
12:22 Gopi : 1479 reds
12:22 Ankush Jain : 1500 now
12:22 MJ : Ye bada log bhi samaj gaya hai OA hai.
12:22 Surya ganti : could be the same guy exiting?
12:22 Sumeet : booking i think
12:22 Sanjib : 14600 CE 64 to 106.85 – all oUT
12:22 MJ : 100 pt mein kaam kar rahe hai
12:23 Shai : Book thye CE fully 102
12:23 Shai : reds iin
12:23 Shai : EOA trade over
12:24 Ankush Jain : booked
12:24 Sanjib : Gov – your highs are here..great insight, man
12:24 Jitender : +1
12:24 Ankush Jain : wow trade chief
12:24 Amit : booked
12:24 Swapnil : +1 Shai!
12:24 Surya ganti : booked NF and BNF
12:25 Chandrashekhar : +1 Shai
12:25 Sunil : superb chief _/\_
12:25 Chandrashekhar : Gmade new highs
12:25 Shai : went without green- (11:58) Shai : one green here will send it to 760
12:25 Shai : 6 short
12:25 Surya ganti : 760 almost reached too
12:25 Anand : _/\_
12:25 Sanjib : +1 Shai
12:25 Shai : we review this is 14760- 777 zone is crossed in K
12:25 Shai : for now they are booking
12:25 Sunil : yes green did not come… but we reached there 🙂
12:25 Shai : so we cash out as well
12:26 Anand : is BNF EOA also over chief ? large reds are not in yet
12:26 Ankush Jain : chrts stuck again chief
12:26 Sag1 SAWANT : 14757… +100
12:26 Milind : Is Contra trade ON, Shai?
12:27 Muralidhar Kaja : @Shai can we look at a NuX day?
12:27 Jitender : morn LLT was at wat level & wat level is tis 1548 at in nf …..
12:27 Uttam : 14740
12:28 Uttam : had that 1096 red
12:28 Milind : Morning LLT was at 14739
12:28 Shai : don;t do contra withoput a red band
12:28 Jitender : correct..
12:28 Chandrashekhar : 14700 dukaan possible Shai..if get above 760
12:28 Jitender : so 740-750 is the zone…
12:28 Shai : big guys are in the tape today
12:28 Shai : be careful
12:28 Shai : seeing both NF and BNF
12:29 MJ : yes chief
12:30 MJ : 33133 wapis bnf
12:30 MJ : ?
12:30 Yash : poor high repair karenge?
12:31 MJ : 2 day comp poor high yes.
12:33 Ankush Jain : these reds at almost same leveles as prev ones
12:34 Sanjib : @Shai 5 paise short of 14960 🙂
12:34 MJ : .95
12:34 MJ : hehe
12:34 Sanjib : 14760
12:36 Vishnu : banknifty not seeing any reddies
12:37 Sanjib : yeah, but struggling to get above dvah
12:38 MJ : thamba Gogo ko jane do
12:38 Jitender : 886 by 1548 (11:33) Jitender : unless u wanna upload again…either u get a sharp rejection of same algo will print more tere to help
12:38 Jitender : lets see wich elephant wins
12:39 MJ : Jit i had mentioned about elephant yest 🙂
12:39 MJ : and your context when they come.
12:39 MJ : its happening since yest. 2 biggies coming
12:39 Jitender : cool
12:40 Mayur P : So Jit 1 of these reds is a buyer?
12:40 Jitender : no Mayur..both r sellers..DII tryn to push tem oit
12:40 Jitender : out
12:40 Chandrashekhar : 30 min ref holding in NF for now
12:40 MJ : Game on!
12:40 Mayur P : ok got it thanks Jit
12:40 Jitender : last one moth its all DII not allown mkts to fall
12:41 Surya ganti : wow
12:41 Chandrashekhar : +1
12:41 Surya ganti : but i thought DII cant buy equity derivatives?
12:41 Jitender : wich country u live in Surya 🙂
12:42 Jitender : u mean rules are followed by people who have money/power ?
12:42 Surya ganti : they cant short i guess then?
12:42 Surya ganti : lol true that
12:42 MJ : :))
12:43 Sadees : MFs are the ones that cant do derivatives i guess
12:43 Surya ganti : ah yes
12:43 Mayur P : MFs and Insurance usually dont. MFs might participate in futures at times. But there cash buys/sells would be swinging f&o. Also they might be helping their cronies and market makers placing large orders. My 2 cents
12:44 Mayur P : *their
12:44 Uttam : 14700ce guys under trouble only above 58 Shai?
12:45 MJ : 49.95 high
12:45 MJ : there
12:45 Shai : 14700 ce high risk long to 51 sl of 23
12:45 Shai : cmp 34
12:45 Uttam : +1
12:45 Chandrashekhar : +1
12:45 MJ : dop at 40 in that
12:45 Shai : higgher risk trade
12:47 Sandip : Hi Shai, Uttam
12:47 Milind : 14700 CE & PE combo is 73. Is this a probable expiry value?
12:47 Milind : at
12:47 Uttam : hey SAndip 🙂 good to have you back bro
12:47 Uttam : welcome
12:48 Sandip : Thx Uttam, good to be back
12:49 Uttam : anyone taking out the hammer?
12:50 Uttam : H is here
12:51 Yash : someone go and tell bnf, it was bnf who had 2500 guy, not nf!
12:52 Uttam : 14775 here
12:52 Shai : 44 book half- (12:45) Shai : 14700 ce high risk long to 51 sl of 23
12:52 Shai : sl at cost now
12:52 Saurabh : great chief
12:52 Uttam : 39-49 in that 14700ce
12:53 MJ : 49 exit mila ug?
12:53 MJ : mine didn't go through. 🙁
12:53 MJ : now yesss
12:53 MJ : 😀
12:53 Uttam : (12:19) Uttam : NF on for 14775 Sha?
12:53 Sanjib : stuck?
12:54 Uttam : 1.5 IB done on upside also NF
12:54 MJ : room freeze.
12:55 Uttam : getting there? – (12:44) Uttam : 14700ce guys under trouble only above 58 Shai?
12:56 Uttam : keep it going – (12:49) Uttam : anyone taking out the hammer?(12:50) Uttam : H is here
12:57 Shai : need 10L more unwinding in that 14700 ce
12:58 MJ : 49.95 is an algo writer in that.
12:58 MJ : get him out
12:59 Shai : tgt revised to 62
12:59 MJ : 🙂
12:59 Shai : sl at 34 cost
13:02 Sandip : Bnf needs to push harder
13:02 Surendra : after those big pinks and COT red why are we still bullish chief?
13:02 Uttam : yes now that you are back, you got to do it S 🙂
13:03 MJ : 305 guy
13:03 MJ : chalo dhi dedo
13:03 MJ : haha!
13:03 Surya ganti : gosh look at those reds
13:04 Sumeet : random swipes
13:04 Uttam : BNF on to repair those poor hgihs and get to that vpoc of 33400?
13:05 Uttam : needs some more greens
13:05 Muralidhar Kaja : @Shai today there are a lot of Reds at the tops but NF is moving up…. any reason?
13:05 Shai : Book the CE fully
13:05 Amit : multiple pinks…..
13:06 Shai : bands are green
13:06 Shai : we took the 14700 ce on SC
13:06 Shai : don't short till you see pink
13:07 Milind : + 1 Shai
13:07 Shai : (12:28) Shai : don;t do contra withoput a red band
13:07 Mayur P : +1 Shai
13:07 Shai : Most of you are still not reading the Orderflow completely and focussed only on tiny bits and not the full pic
13:08 Uttam : +100
13:08 Shai : you need time in the training library
13:08 Shai : spend time there
13:08 MJ : @ash (12:19) Ashwin : @MJ 673 green at dvah in NF(12:20) MJ : no fade yet.
13:08 Shai : you will only help your account
13:08 MJ : +50 since that guy. IB he was.
13:08 Shai : long exit made
13:09 Shai : we review on a pullback
13:09 MJ : +100 cheif
13:09 Mayur P : 20 lakhs gone from that 14700 ce. Whatta slaughter
13:09 Uttam : real slaughter will happen above 58 😉
13:10 Sumeet : waiting for that uttam
13:10 Mayur P : bring it on
13:10 Mayur P : No reds in BNF
13:10 MJ : 1250 TBAR imp
13:10 MJ : 0s there too
13:11 Amit : held for now.
13:12 Chandrashekhar : taht eoa was a nice setup for longs
13:12 MJ : 14700 ce guys buying time to get exit. hence micro rotation.
13:12 MJ : imho
13:12 Mayur P : +1 MJ
13:12 Chandrashekhar : and making SL hunts now
13:12 MJ : unki lanka mein aag lagni hai
13:12 MJ : 49.95
13:12 Amit : so dukaan pending…:)
13:12 Shai : bounced off 33
13:12 MJ : yes 34 42 round 2
13:13 MJ : I've collected my sl money. now lets see what happens above 50 if at all.
13:13 Ashwin : @MJ awesome! had marked out G and kept an eye out for any pullbacks
13:13 MJ : +1 cheers.
13:14 Sadees : 2 POCs each at 33000 and 32990.. last 4 bars
13:15 Uttam : NF let tag that vpoc of 14811?
13:15 Amit : going
13:16 Uttam : rejection from lower POC at 14557 yesterday meant it was eanting to tag the higher ones at 14811 & 14927 so lets do it
13:16 Uttam : VWAP now at 14715 which is also the VAH of the 3-day comp
13:18 Surendra : Are we still on for this?(13:09) Uttam : real slaughter will happen above 58 😉
13:18 Mayur P : 33K ce writers still chilling
13:18 Mayur P : We need one green band in BNF
13:18 Sanjib : yes, BNF uninspiring above dvah
13:18 Uttam : yes Surendra, 30 is the ref in that CE
13:18 Uttam : on downside
13:18 Uttam : vwap also around there
13:19 Siddhesh : 33L added today in 14700 PE
13:19 Uttam : but that move will come post 2-2:15
13:19 Uttam : so no pre-empting for now
13:21 Siddhesh : 14700 ce OI changed to 45 L to 67 L
13:21 Siddhesh : from 67L to 45L*
13:22 MJ : yes
13:22 Sandip : Uttam is Jitender also an admin?
13:22 MJ : 28 vwap there.
13:23 Uttam : yes Sandip he is the most senior member here after Shai 🙂
13:23 Sandip : Nice
13:23 Uttam : NF needs to decide what it wants to give on expiry – NeuX or NeuC
13:24 Jitender : tx fr tat UG….Sandip m just tere …to help..rest fr VT..Shai & Uttam are the admin n goto people
13:24 Surya ganti : TSL gone in the ce
13:24 Uttam : 14800pe from 103-114
13:24 Sandip : Good to see you Jitender!
13:25 Surya ganti : reds gearing up to fire after loading up all cylinders?
13:25 Jitender : same here Sandip..good to cu 2
13:26 Sanjib : chart stuck
13:27 MJ : Flag at ibh right now
13:27 MJ : lets see what he gets
13:29 RajeshN : looks like 33k bn ce fate i sealed at frm 85
13:32 Uttam : 14700 ce/pe are the probable dukaan set ups for today
13:32 Uttam : doesn ot look like will get to singles digits that combo like last expiry did for 14900
13:32 Uttam : lets see what the last hour has in store
13:32 Uttam : 47L in CE & 42l/ in PE
13:33 Chandrashekhar : =
13:33 Chandrashekhar : +1
13:33 Uttam : for now looks like NF wants a vwap test
13:34 Jitender : _______ stands open :), tc guys…remember (12:28) Shai : big guys are in the tape today(12:28) Shai : be careful
13:34 MJ : 🙂
13:34 Surya ganti : really big boys.. 5000+ contracts in red open
13:36 Vishnu : which one u saying?
13:37 Rajesh G : auctionjit
13:38 Mayur P : Do we consider those reds with green bands? Chief said they were SCs. (13:34) Surya ganti: really big boys.. 5000+ contracts in red open
13:39 Mayur P : Stalwarts if you could put some light on this
13:39 Mayur P : @Shai
13:40 MJ : have they lured 14700 ce guys?
13:41 Uttam : 14600ce giving a nice rejection from vwap
13:41 Uttam : 87
13:41 MJ : guys one question: who is doing a bad job so far?
13:42 Mayur P : sellers
13:42 Sunil : sellers
13:42 Amit : obviously sellers…….
13:42 MJ : 🙂
13:42 RajeshN : bank nifty sellers
13:42 Sandip : Sellers in NF and buyers in bnf
13:42 Arjun : saving ammo 😉
13:42 Mayur P : +1 (13:42) Sandip : Sellers in NF and buyers in bnf
13:42 MJ : Bias change happens below____
13:42 MJ : ?
13:43 Surya ganti : vwap
13:43 Mayur P : A singles still there in BNF
13:43 MJ : And 716-22 shai morning seller ref right?
13:43 MJ : where the vwap is also there.
13:43 MJ : so design plan A and plan B
13:44 MJ : My plan A as 240+264 flags.
13:44 MJ : Traded with them
13:44 Yash : is that 2500 bnf guy still in bnf?
13:44 Mayur P : Instrument? 600 ce or 700 ce?(13:44) MJ : My plan A as 240+264 flags.
13:44 Surya ganti : yes yash
13:45 Surya ganti : no ones leaving the game.. just playing ping pong so far
13:45 MJ : both @mayur
13:45 Mayur P : I am looking at that 700CE to move away from vwap
13:46 Uttam : @Mayur trade deep in money on expiry day for normal trades
13:46 Mayur P : not looking very keen
13:46 Uttam : lotteries happen post 2
13:46 Uttam : 14600ce gave a good rejection from vwap
13:46 Mayur P : +1 UG. wait mode right now
13:46 Ashwin : thanks MJ!
13:46 Uttam : whereas 14700ce broke below vwap
13:47 Uttam : today's writers in that 14700ce got washed away but older ones remain
13:47 Mayur P : Missed it. Damn(13:46) Uttam : 14600ce gave a good rejection from vwap
13:47 Uttam : and 14700pe had all frsh writing happenign today
13:47 Sandip : Yes Uttam perfect
13:47 Siddhesh : + Uttam : 14600ce gave a good rejection from vwap
13:47 Chandrashekhar : yes..almost 33L +
13:48 Siddhesh : bookfrom 54 to 66
13:48 Surendra : bring it on 14700 ce 🙂
13:48 Uttam : it keeps happenign so remember it 🙂 – (13:47) Mayur P: Missed it. Damn(13:46) Uttam : 14600ce gave a good rejection from vwap
13:48 RajeshN : anyone following 33k ce
13:50 Siddhesh : 813 seller in NF at 1 PM i still active ?
13:50 Govind : new guys should not try this @ home, bad idea to trade two strikes if you are new at it even otherwise…13:45 MJ : both @mayur
13:50 Uttam : +1 Gov better to be in one and that also the in the money one
13:51 Uttam : expiry day premiums of out of money will get whipped
13:54 Siddhesh : Uttam 813 seller in NF at 1 PM is still active ?
13:54 Jitender : expiry is as per spot…reminder 🙂
13:54 Sanjib : That 813 was probably Buyer booking out Siddhesh
13:54 Mayur P : +1 Jit
13:54 Siddhesh : noted
13:55 Sanjib : It was RS, not IS
13:57 Chandrashekhar : BNF looks makng a belly
13:57 Chandrashekhar : hope it will not
13:58 Prashant : breakoout of 3 day composite has not been impressive, so far
13:58 Yash : k pending
13:59 Sandip : Charts stuck?
14:02 Sandip : Working for rest?
14:02 Chandrashekhar : yes..charts stuck
14:02 Ankush Jain : yes
14:02 Chandrashekhar : go to working
14:03 Chandrashekhar : almost 10 lac fresh OI added in the 14700 CE in the last hour again
14:04 Siddhesh : +1
14:05 Sandip : How to switch to working?
14:07 Uttam : reload the room once Sandip
14:08 Chandrashekhar : 14805 2 IB for NF on upside Uttam?
14:08 Uttam : yes C
14:08 Shai : quite a stall here
14:08 Uttam : I want 3 IB
14:08 Sandip : ok now working….I clicked on the goto links also
14:08 Shai : if enough vol is built we may get a move later in K
14:08 Shai : let them adverstise here
14:09 Shai : we trade off it later
14:09 Uttam : +1
14:09 Chandrashekhar : 14860 then Uttam
14:09 Uttam : yep 14864
14:09 Chandrashekhar : +1
14:09 Uttam : NeuX or NeuC let us see hwat we get
14:09 Uttam : 14811 is the vpoc
14:10 Chandrashekhar : and if this happens 14700 CE may give 80+??
14:10 KK : greens stuck in bnf ?
14:12 Shai : 33840 a supp in BNF
14:12 Shai : wa s the second buyer who pushed it to 33040
14:12 Chandrashekhar : 740-730 good in NF shai?
14:12 Uttam : BNF 3-day comp VAH at 33009
14:13 Uttam : and comp POC at 32645
14:13 Shai : NF negotiating prev supply here
14:13 Uttam : today lows there
14:13 KK : 32900 CE 82 to 45
14:13 Shai : teart 14750- 14780 as range
14:13 Uttam : +
14:13 Shai : prem didd is 24 points today h to L
14:13 Sandip : Bnf starting to look a little positive now
14:13 Shai : prem diff*
14:14 Uttam : nice balance in it so far so lets have an imbalance in BNF Sandip
14:14 Shai : BNF is 60\
14:14 Chandrashekhar : HDFC/ICICI/Kotak all getting green
14:14 Chandrashekhar : greener would be much better
14:15 Chandrashekhar : and K begins
14:15 KK : 700 CE at 21 ? buy with SL 10 ?
14:15 Sandip : Uttam I forgot most of the profile terms 🙁
14:15 MJ : Kraken is here.
14:15 Uttam : 🙂 Sandip you have the training library to help in the revision
14:16 Sandip : hehe true that ..will see some today
14:16 Uttam : some amazing videos there explaining the set ups with some super new additions to the OF charts from the last time you were here
14:17 KK : 380 red in bnf
14:18 Chandrashekhar : Vwap here in BNF…
14:19 Uttam : that mist be MJ absorbing all that supply from the 692 guy in BNF 😉
14:19 Uttam : 833 now
14:19 Surya ganti : lol
14:19 MJ : green 722 top has exited at vwap looks like
14:20 Uttam : oh so MJ sold to that 722 guy and nove covering 🙂
14:20 MJ : Kahe lere ho UG 🙂
14:21 MJ : 3ib dedo bas aap
14:21 KK : 811 dedo UG
14:21 Uttam : 2:30 aaya kya?
14:21 Uttam : last hour be extra cautious guyd
14:21 Sanjib : BNF has found the pillows
14:22 Uttam : as mentioned both 14700ce & pe could be probable dukaan trades
14:22 Uttam : though bias if for upside
14:22 Uttam : but expiry day you need to be a bit more careful
14:22 Uttam : pillows or base to take off? – (14:21) Sanjib : BNF has found the pillows
14:23 Uttam : one round of profile filling possible in NF downside
14:24 Uttam : 14740 breaks on vols can give 14700
14:24 Sanjib : 🙂
14:24 Uttam : kind of irruglar profile NF has
14:24 Uttam : BNF is so much ore smoother
14:24 Sanjib : PPOC in BNF?
14:25 Uttam : yep overlapping with yPOC as well
14:25 Uttam : 32888
14:25 Sanjib : so its pillows, UG 🙂
14:25 Uttam : 32915 is the dPOC
14:26 Chandrashekhar : polarity changing in NF by any chance?
14:26 Swapnil : volume missing in NF?
14:27 MJ : 3 day comp and today expiry show. Can we move on Fryday?
14:27 Ankush Jain : aayega wo bhi aayega
14:27 MJ : 🙂
14:28 Surya ganti : whoops
14:28 Surya ganti : watch the 426 guy now
14:29 Rahul : yes
14:29 Sandip : NF vwap test on looks like
14:29 Chandrashekhar : K tested lower 30 min ref…can we test the upper 30 min now??
14:31 Rahul : bnf party
14:31 Shai : lots of reds again
14:31 Shai : if vwap fails in NF short for 695
14:31 Shai : NTZ here
14:31 KK : that 426 stuck there ..lonely
14:32 MJ : Last vwap test nf was around 1155
14:34 Milind : What is a upside ref@Shai?
14:34 Surya ganti : i wud suspect buying above DH
14:35 Ankush Jain : 14700 ce/pe fighting it out
14:36 Sumeet : thank you 426 !
14:37 Shai : 14777 still- (14:34) Milind : What is a upside ref@Shai?
14:37 Uttam : 14725 last Fridays extension handle in spot
14:37 Uttam : guys remember?
14:37 RajeshN : can 33k ce writers run for cover
14:37 Uttam : day before also same level spot stalled
14:38 Uttam : take that out and lets have a pawri
14:38 Chandrashekhar : +1 Uttam
14:39 Sumeet : 15 more uttam. you say the word and it will shoot
14:39 MJ : nice flag spot Surya
14:39 Chandrashekhar : 775 high in this bar
14:39 Chandrashekhar : (14:37) Shai : 14777 still- (14:34) Milind : What is a upside ref@Shai?
14:39 Rajesh G : dukaan
14:40 Rahul : 97 to 113 on that 423 guy
14:40 Chandrashekhar : BNF activate madi please…
14:40 Surya ganti : someone pushed downt he market to trigger that trade 😀 (14:39) MJ : nice flag spot Surya
14:41 Surya ganti : and then reversed
14:42 MJ : They think they can get same result of last expiry on 14700 combo? Last expiry 14900 went to 5
14:42 MJ : @shai room needs you.
14:43 MJ : back
14:43 MJ : 😀
14:43 MJ : watching 14700 oi chief?
14:43 MJ : any signs of panic in any camp?
14:44 Mayur P : Fade karein?
14:45 Chandrashekhar : K not doing the job
14:45 Chandrashekhar : pagaar kaato uska
14:48 Rahul : lol c
14:49 Ankush Jain : chief any brkout session happening today?
14:50 Shai : we have one scheduled next Thursday
14:50 Shai : Uttam is delivering the message
14:50 Ankush Jain : ok thanks
14:50 Uttam : _/\_
14:51 Arjun : so no breakout anywhere today 😉
14:51 Mayur P : lol
14:52 Surya ganti : lol
14:53 Shai : s[pot has chosen 14700
14:53 Shai : NF 50 point prem is just a mirror
14:53 Shai : NC at work
14:53 Rajesh G : NC?
14:53 Uttam : NEutral Centre
14:54 Surendra : big players didn't stay for expiry
14:56 Surya ganti : i wonder if they all exited..
14:56 Surya ganti : suspect some/al ofthem still in the game for tomorrow/later
14:56 Uttam : so back to back expiries in favour of the writers
14:57 Uttam : last week it was 14900
14:57 Uttam : this week 14700
14:59 Sandip : Lets see what Pe buyers do near Mis cutoff timing
15:00 Rahul : trade guys
15:00 Rahul : saras
15:01 Surya ganti : bnf adding reds
15:01 Prashant : whats with bnf?
15:01 Rahul : sl huting of writers ?
15:02 MJ : ce writers ni majja
15:03 Sandip : There we go …Pe profit booking on
15:03 Sandip : +Ce short covering
15:03 Rahul : yes sandip
15:03 Rahul : +1 mj
15:03 Surya ganti : let it cross shais ref
15:03 Uttam : take out that 14725 in spot
15:04 Sandip : Need more volumes
15:04 Ankush Jain : mushkil lagta
15:04 Sumeet : one more small push
15:05 Sanjib : stuck
15:05 Govind : this is a good level to choose Shai, staying above can move it to the next bracket. 14:53 Shai : s[pot has chosen 14700
15:06 Surendra : any suggestions for positional for tmoro or coming week chief?
15:06 MJ : 700 ce undercutting
15:06 MJ : should have been 20+
15:08 Sandip : yes Mj
15:08 Ankush Jain : so it will settle near 14700
15:08 Vishnu : shai bnf still tgt 33789 pending. Will u make it tom?
15:08 Ankush Jain : after 12.30 NF went nowhere
15:09 MJ : (13:32) Uttam : doesn ot look like will get to singles digits that combo like last expiry did for 14900(14:42) MJ : They think they can get same result of last expiry on 14700 combo? Last expiry 14900 went to 5
15:09 MJ : Congrats UG again you did it.
15:11 Sandip : Charts stuck?
15:12 Swapnil : acting up often the room charts
15:15 Chandrashekhar : 725 in spot
15:15 Shai : Aplogies for the inconvenience guys in teh charts
15:15 Shai : there is a fix coming for the charts
15:15 Shai : it should be behind us soon
15:15 Ankush Jain : +1
15:15 Prashant : can this not all be shifted to zoom…better visibility
15:15 Sandip : +1
15:16 Tejpreet : Shai as zoom charts are stable can we have option via chat to have only your messages posted there.
15:16 Surendra : any views for tmoro opening cheif?
15:16 Shai : need zoom for the BNF no?
15:16 Shai : the biggest traders are on zoom 🙂
15:16 Tejpreet : I meant both 🙂
15:17 Shai : we are in the range mentioned at open – (15:16) Surendra : any views for tmoro opening cheif?
15:17 Tejpreet : zoom/ go to
15:17 Shai : Any breakaway we trade for 14970
15:17 MJ : 7 – 21 14700 ce
15:17 Tejpreet : Just your messages on both 5 min …..this room works as usual.
15:17 MJ : Should have been more but expiry day math
15:17 Ankush Jain : 14700 cute CE writers under pump
15:17 Rahul : yes
15:18 Sandip : haha yes
15:18 Shai : they sold at 9 thinking it will be 0
15:18 Ankush Jain : yes
15:18 MJ : 🙂
15:18 MJ : I was buying them chief
15:18 MJ : 😀
15:18 MJ : becho beta becho
15:19 Surya ganti : 777 laxman rekha
15:19 MJ : 10 rs – that ce is working on.
15:19 MJ : must have given 28-30
15:19 Surya ganti : isnt it profitable to even expire now at 10rs?
15:19 Shai : 14630 a supp into tom
15:19 MJ : @surya it is in discount.
15:19 Shai : Any upside abv 14780 we plan for 14840/ 14870
15:20 Chandrashekhar : 14730 you mean shai..(15:19) Shai : 14630 a supp into tom
15:21 Shai : 14630 for the swing
15:21 Shai : up from 14510
15:22 Chandrashekhar : thanks
15:22 Ankush Jain : diff of 12 from 1470 ce to spot
15:22 Shai : 2nd swing tgt is 15022
15:22 Ankush Jain : spot 14733, c3 is 23
15:22 Ankush Jain : averaging ?
15:23 Shai : And prem has gone to day lows
15:23 Sandip : im out…48-73…14650 ce
15:23 Ankush Jain : expiry games
15:24 Sandip : Too much circus
15:24 Sandip : Ce in 15 points discount
15:25 Sandip : Maxx should be 10 not 15
15:25 Gopi : tomorow gap up possible ? lots of greens
15:25 Ashwin : thanks Shai, UG, Jit, MJ, Gov, and the entire room! good day for the ledger and knowledge-bank. realised some mistakes from yesterday and corrected them today
15:26 MJ : cheers.
15:26 MJ : @Sandip anomaly this is.
15:26 Uttam : 14700ce did one small safe trade from 20-24
15:26 Surya ganti : im even templted to buy into close 😀
15:26 Uttam : was ecpecting 36 but time runing out
15:27 Sandip : Yes Mj, looks like it
15:27 Uttam : that combo did not closei n single digits MJ 🙂
15:27 Uttam : 25
15:27 Sandip : Nice Uttam
15:27 MJ : went single digit.
15:27 Rahul : +1 ug from 19 to 25
15:27 MJ : and ghumi
15:27 Uttam : thanks S
15:27 MJ : har expiry lenge aise kaise 🙂
15:28 Uttam : 14725 scale captured
15:28 Uttam : NeuX it is in NF
15:28 Swapnil : Settlement price for Nifty is last 30 minutes average, no?
15:28 Surya ganti : with ping imbalance dots.. gap up?
15:29 MJ : Ug spot gave dhi
15:29 MJ : nf ka time abhi?
15:30 Uttam : sabka time aayega 🙂
15:30 Uttam : thanks All 🙂
15:30 Uttam : have a lovely evening
15:30 MJ : bye all stay safe.
15:30 Shai : tc all
15:30 Shai : have a nice evning
15:30 Surya ganti : bye everyone
15:31 Sandip : Tc bye