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Room Chat
08:53 Vtrender Live : 5 min NF charts – https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/871631613
08:53 Vtrender Live : 5 min bnf charts – https://zoom.us/j/8647755698?pwd=U1FVY2NpUXIzZlVWKzc0azhORlNqQT09
08:59 Himanshu : GM all
08:59 Vishnu : gm all
09:00 Rohan : Good Morning All
09:01 Arul : Good morning guys!
09:04 Shai : GM all
09:04 Uttam : Good Morning All 🙂
09:04 Satish : Good morning All
09:04 Uttam : https://vtrender.com/market-profile-analysis-dated-19th-april-2021/
09:04 Sunil : Good Morning All
09:04 Shai : 1445 ref line for the open in NF
09:04 Nisha : GM All
09:04 Shai : 31480 ref line in BNF
09:05 Tejaswini : GM all
09:05 Ankush Jain : GM all
09:05 Shai : Auction on the higher open stays positive abv 14400 today
09:05 Shai : 14350 will be lower supp
09:05 Shai : 14490 to watch on higher probes
09:06 Shai : 31772 to watch in BNF
09:07 Chandrashekhar : GM all
09:11 Tejaswini : Chief good morning. Cover BN puts at open is stays above 31480?
09:11 Tejaswini : *if
09:12 Shai : play the 5 min rule for overnight postions
09:13 Tejaswini : Sorry whats the 5 min rule?
09:14 Ankush Jain : I suppose wait for 5 minutes before doing anything for overnight positions
09:15 Tejaswini : Ok thanks AJ
09:15 Shai : SC at open
09:18 Bhishma : whats 5 min rule chif?i have pe shorted overninght
09:19 Anand : 14490 seems to be providing support now Chief ?
09:19 KK : 770 in BNF ?
09:20 Chandrashekhar : OAOR , speedo going down
09:20 Uttam : take the 5min hihg or low as the SL if auction opens against your overnight position – (09:18) Bhishma : whats 5 min rule chif?i have pe shorted overninght
09:21 Siddharth : charts stuck ?
09:21 Surya ganti : working fine
09:21 Siddharth : ok i think then ill relogin
09:21 Vishnu : next level shai to watch
09:22 Arul : 31772
09:22 Vishnu : for nifty?
09:23 KK : nifty 540, Shai ?
09:23 MJ : that 3k bnf lot yest 🙂 he will be itm+++
09:23 Arul : 14621 given in MP report
09:23 MJ : and how
09:24 Bhishma : Thx Uttam
09:24 Ankush Jain : OAOR?
09:25 Arul : can we consider OFT trader is present and out of range?
09:26 Rajiv Ohri : Shai 31772 here
09:26 Shai : yes BNF has SC
09:26 Shai : NF 14550 upper ref again
09:26 Shai : 14450 could supp now
09:33 Shai : (09:20) Chandrashekhar : OAOR , speedo going down
09:33 Himanshu : Chief Room MP chart of BNFneeds adjustment pls
09:34 MJ : red band nf
09:36 Chandrashekhar : 460-440 test possible now in NF?
09:38 MJ : 101-114 14500 pe. on red bands.
09:38 Yash null : bnf profile chart adjustment needed
09:38 Yash null : tx
09:42 Shai : open has changed the auction and range
09:42 Shai : use 14450- 14550 now- (09:26) Shai : NF 14550 upper ref again(09:26) Shai : 14450 could supp now
09:42 Shai : let the OAOR play out
09:42 Shai : with a holiday tom, K is the high potential trade for now on this open
09:43 Shai : BNF is stronger of the 2
09:43 Shai : 31500 should now supp
09:43 Arul : took support at VWAP now it seems
09:45 Govind : no large lot presence in NF…please wait like Shai says
09:46 Chandrashekhar : +1
09:46 MJ : We opened right in the middle of GAP
09:46 MJ : we have no idea who the gap is with so far. So patience will pay us good.
09:47 Chandrashekhar : yeah…both sides equally placed
09:47 MJ : OAOR rule revision karo and lag jao kaam par.
09:48 MJ : OAOR = Jobbers paradise.
09:48 S M : GM Shai, What basis you arrive at these ref numbers . . . I know these are Big Lots . . . But there are many biglots. How do you determine these number to be ref for the day’s trade. (09:05) Shai : 14350 will be lower supp(09:05) Shai : 14490 to watch on higher probes
09:48 KK : 500 CE OI
09:52 MJ : 283 bnf reds.
09:52 MJ : watching him.
09:52 Chandrashekhar : DPOC on top for both now…
09:53 Chandrashekhar : comparitively smaller IB range so far
09:54 Ankush Jain : tomorrow a holiday, so afternoon can be volatile & some dukaan trades
09:54 Shai : 14417 HVN + 30 for the premium change – (09:48) S M: GM Shai, What basis you arrive at these ref numbers . . . I know these are Big Lots . . . But there are many biglots. How do you determine these number to be ref for the day’s trade. (09:05) Shai : 14350 will be lower supp(09:05) Shai : 14490 to watch on higher probes
09:54 Shai : A lot of people use levels blindly and don’t account for the premium moves which go from 95 to 0 during a series
09:55 Shai : the result is they get trapped in wrong beliefs
09:55 Shai : prem was 45 last week, 15 now
09:56 S M : Thank You . . . (09:54) Shai : 14417 HVN + 30 for the premium change – (09:48) S M: GM Shai, What basis you arrive at these ref numbers . . . I know these are Big Lots . . . But there are many biglots. How do you determine these number to be ref for the day’s trade. (09:05) Shai : 14350 will be lower supp(09:05) Shai : 14490 to watch on higher probes
09:56 Shai : NF wants to test that ref of 14445- 455
09:57 MJ : Day range is chotu for nf so far.
09:57 MJ : multi ib day probable?
09:57 Jitender : no bell ?
09:57 MJ : 🙂
09:57 MJ : k
09:57 Chandrashekhar : 7 short from UG’s trade mark number
09:58 KK : MJ, wait for 31580, will give perfect entry.
09:58 MJ : 62 pt bell mein no fun jit 🙂
09:58 Jitender : k
09:58 Ankush Jain : BVAH trade in NF shai?
10:18 Jitender : SM..have u seen the goto charts ?
10:18 Jitender : prem is tracked real time and changes
10:19 S M : OK (10:18) Jitender : SM..have u seen the goto charts ?(10:18) Jitender : prem is tracked real time and changes
10:19 S M : Noted . Thank You
10:19 Jitender : HVN is not marked EOD but wen vol occurs
10:20 Jitender : its like dpoc….but on a price level basis
10:24 MJ : Part out tsl at cost (10:17) Surya ganti: 50% out at 635 on your trade MJ
10:24 MJ : Cheers surya
10:24 Surya ganti : im 100% out at vwap 😀
10:25 Sanjib : 124 to 134 in that 14400 CE – C dhoka play
10:25 MJ : you called it Sanjib+++
10:25 MJ : C side
10:26 Sanjib : _/\_ MJ
10:31 MJ : 14509 14831 14961 monthly value for nf.
10:32 MJ : vwap at 14666
10:36 Ranjith : UG POC V appearing in 31743 and vpoc in 31620
10:42 Shai : will reconcile
10:42 Shai : right now diff is minscule
10:46 Mayur : Bias is up due to OAOR right ?
10:47 KK : Aaj to NF 440 tag karne ki promise karke baitha hai
10:49 Chandrashekhar : EOA??
10:49 KK : done kya ?
10:49 Chandrashekhar : 1071 greesn and 0’s below
10:50 MJ : KK you getting it as close to 440
10:50 Surendra : dot at 14455 level referred by chief
10:50 MJ : shabaash.
10:50 Himanshu : Early Bird
10:50 Himanshu : 1K green
10:50 KK : 500 CE 74 to 63
10:51 MJ : 14450 shai’s ref ++
10:51 KK : afternoon that 500 CE preparing for dukaan
10:52 Prashant : a question…why do you guys use OTM options? I mean delta is low for them, so why? Am assuming one wd try to mimic futures?
10:53 Chandrashekhar : looks like BNF is in different plans
10:53 Chandrashekhar : not supporting/i sync with NF
10:53 MJ : Still has A lows.
10:53 MJ : no RE yet.
10:53 MJ : bnf.
10:53 Tejaswini : NF is an EOA?
10:54 Shai : No
10:54 Shai : slo
10:54 Tejaswini : Sorry some chats missing i guess had to refresh
10:54 Tejaswini : Thanks Chief (10:54) Shai : slo
10:54 Chandrashekhar : long trade here for Vwap in NF shai?
10:55 Siddharth : slo = sl orders ?
10:55 Chandrashekhar : 0’s as support/ref
10:55 Shai : can for vwap
10:55 Anand : How to identify if its EOA or SLO chief ?
10:55 Anand : there are no zeros above 1080 ?
10:55 Chetas : what is SLO?
10:55 Chandrashekhar : now charts updated..that 54 order at lows is gone
10:55 Chandrashekhar : all 0’s below now
10:55 Chetas : stop order sgot it
10:56 KK : BNF asking, should I go down and drink some 0s like you..NF saying no no..just come now
10:56 Ankush Jain : these slo were shorts booking out below DLO?
10:56 Chetas : BN is saying i wil do that at higher levels :)\
10:57 Anand : Chandrashekhar… were there 0s above 1080 as well and they were over written ?
10:57 MJ : Refresh
10:57 Anand : by new trades when price went above 1080 in that bar ?
10:57 MJ : happened.
10:57 Chandrashekhar : no 0’s below 1080
10:58 Sanjib : Prashant – no hard and fast rule. If you want to benefit from Option convexity, then buy OTM. If you want to play linearity, then buy ITM(10:52) Prashant : a question…why do you guys use OTM options? I mean delta is low for them, so why? Am assuming one wd try to mimic futures?
10:58 Chandrashekhar : but had 54 sell order at last 0′ at bottom
10:58 Chandrashekhar : its gone now
10:58 Anand : ok
10:59 Anand : Chief… how to differentiate between an SLO with 0s below it and an EOA? Plz suggest..
10:59 Govind : +1 Sanjib….10:58 Sanjib : Prashant – no hard and fast rule. If you want to benefit from Option convexity, then buy OTM. If you want to play linearity, then buy ITM
11:01 Prashant : thanks
11:01 Sanjib : In addition, if you want to mimic Futures, then buy those many lots of Options whose delta add up to 1
11:02 Sadees : D will do C dhokha for BNF?
11:03 Chandrashekhar : such a tiny range for BNF…
11:03 Rahul Goel : sadees when you say D will do C means it will go down and then come up
11:04 Govind : Btw, Prashant, we do trade ITM options. Check the transcript from last expiry and you will see Shai’s calls were mostly ITM
11:04 Sadees : yes Rahul
11:05 Prashant : Yes, yes i know…but a lot of times it is otm, so asking…i use nf only, but trying to see if options make more sense given lesser costs..
11:06 Sujith Prabha : are the o’s negated now?
11:07 Chandrashekhar : looks like
11:07 Sanjib : OTM benefits – less cost, option convexity because of gamma change which increases delta disproportionately, if I can use that word.
11:07 MJ : newlowby 1 pt. nf
11:07 Chandrashekhar : below 440 PDH coming in NF?
11:08 Shai : going to 14410
11:08 Shai : vwap trade off
11:08 Surya ganti : exited
11:08 Anand : Chief… how to differentiate between an SLO with 0s below it and an EOA? Plz suggest..
11:10 Shai : Short NF 14449 skl of 14475 tgt 14407/ 14390
11:11 Chandrashekhar : Shai any view for NF this expiry?
11:12 MJ : 448 guy bnf sup?
11:13 Jitender : late ho
11:13 Yash : good job by bnf guys?
11:14 Jitender : 502-605…half thru….
11:14 Shai : 14300 was not compltee yesterday, gap up was weird – (11:11) Chandrashekhar : Shai any view for NF this expiry?
11:14 MJ : +1 jit
11:14 Jitender : OAOR
11:14 MJ : :))
11:14 Shai : if we get a good extension now we shoulkd revisit 14300
11:15 Shai : let’s take it a step at a time
11:15 Chandrashekhar : Thanks Shai
11:15 Jitender : rest out at 565
11:15 Shai : clean LL formation in NF
11:15 Shai : watch the reds
11:19 KK : it becomes so confusing when both are not in sync..need to reduce size
11:19 Piyush Kakadiya : sir I sold 14500 call option
11:19 Piyush Kakadiya : any sl
11:20 Shai : in a hurry- (11:08) Shai : going to 14410
11:20 Shai : Book half 14425- (11:10) Shai : Short NF 14449 skl of 14475 tgt 14407/ 14390
11:20 Ankush Jain : let it be
11:20 Ankush Jain : 🙂
11:20 Shai : sl at cost now
11:20 Piyush Kakadiya : sold at 62
11:21 Shai : manage at 14470 F
11:22 Shai : E laso LL
11:22 Chetan null : ll means lower low?
11:22 Jitender : ys
11:25 Chandrashekhar : Ypoc @ 380 for NF
11:25 MJ : Gap filled almost.
11:25 MJ : nf
11:25 Prashant : gap almost filled
11:25 Shai : yes profile high
11:26 Yash : nifty DD profile ?
11:26 Shai : entry willc all 14350
11:26 MJ : J period entry if comes then we have fun.
11:26 Chetan null : dd profile means?
11:27 MJ : double dist
11:28 Prashant : 14.6 pe 197-222 booked.
11:28 Sadees : NF resting at 30 min reference for now?
11:28 Tejaswini : Chief BNF lower ref?
11:29 Ankush Jain : 1st tgt 14407 almost there
11:29 Shai : 1408
11:29 Shai : 14408
11:29 Tejaswini : Book? (11:29) Shai : 14408
11:29 Shai : That 3 reds were turning point at 14450 when we got that F in
11:30 Shai : Book fully the NF for now
11:30 Prashant : new short at 14440 can be taken??
11:32 Ankush Jain : bounced off PDH
11:33 Shai : can take near 440- 450
11:33 Shai : same sl 470
11:33 Chetan null : pdh?
11:34 MJ : prev day high
11:34 Shai : 78 sl for those holding 14500 call shorts
11:34 Shai : thts are 36/ 21 by close
11:35 Chandrashekhar : that 30 min lower ref for NF again
11:36 Ankush Jain : Shai today theta decay can be double quick due to tomorrow’s holiday?
11:37 Shai : yes
11:38 Shai : but the thing with theta is that it can steadily decrase during the day or in one shot at any period of the day. It is unpredicatable that way
11:38 Ankush Jain : yeah it is
11:45 Shai : shirt NF again 14438 sl fo 14468 tgt 14200/ 14375
11:47 Chandrashekhar : tgt 1400/14375*
11:47 Chandrashekhar : 14400/14375*
11:48 Yash : Chief ne bol diya so bol diya
11:48 Shai : tgt 14400/ 14375**
11:48 Shai : lol- (11:48) Yash : Chief ne bol diya so bol diya
11:48 Ranjith : True that\
11:48 Shai : following the pan she did 442- (11:33) Shai : can take near 440- 450(11:33) Shai : same sl 470
11:48 Ankush Jain : ek baar commitment kar dee to main apni bhi nai sunta
11:49 Sanjiv : 🙂
11:50 Shai : @MJ can’t message you back. Pls do
11:52 MJ : messaged.
11:52 Yash : U turn exactly from 0s
11:53 Shai : share @MJ i meant
11:53 MJ : Okay 🙂
11:53 MJ : https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ajfJwzMc-gN6geQIJuhOp-3cBClfyNAgPUy64RuJmqg/edit
11:53 MJ : Guys list of short forms.
11:53 MJ : For new comers.
11:54 Arul : Thanks MJ:)
11:54 Sumeet : best explanation of 3-1-3 🙂
11:54 Mayur : Thanks MJ
11:54 Nisha : thanks.. its useful.
11:54 Rajesh G : shai nf trending today
11:55 MJ : If anyone wants to contribute more to it. Ping me and I’ll give you access.
11:55 MJ : Over slack.
11:55 MJ : Cheers guys.
11:56 Govind : sellers need to break this 14417 cleanly
11:56 MJ : Anything there on bid ask? @gov?
11:57 MJ : supply getting soaked?
11:57 Govind : big guys are missing today
11:57 Govind : has been a slow drift down kinda day right
11:57 Yash : Thursday gonna be fun! if not J and K today
11:58 MJ : bnf has been adamant on that IBL
11:58 Shai : +1- (11:53) MJ : https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ajfJwzMc-gN6geQIJuhOp-3cBClfyNAgPUy64RuJmqg/edit
12:00 Shai : yes slow one- (11:54) Rajesh G : shai nf trending today
12:00 Shai : but now has a job at PDH to do
12:01 Shai : good trending moves break into prev profiles and tgt POC
12:01 Govind : +1
12:01 Chandrashekhar : the short tarde valid for G period as well Shai? if PDH is not broken in F session
12:02 Sunil : cheif any reason we have no recommendation for options today ?
12:04 Shai : sl at cost now- (11:45) Shai : shirt NF again 14438 sl fo 14468 tgt 14200/ 14375
12:04 Shai : wwe wait 10 mins
12:04 MJ : expiry inventory adj can come today @Shai as tomo is a holiday.
12:05 Shai : can go with deep ITM like 14600
12:05 Shai : (12:02) Sunil : cheif any reason we have no recommendation for options today ?
12:05 Shai : It’s the same levels
12:05 Sunil : got it .. thnx
12:06 Surendra : chief levels on BNF?
12:06 Yash : lowest volume bar till now, volumes can come after this?
12:07 KK : 379 chalo
12:07 Shai : 6 mins
12:07 MJ : G can give new _____ 🙂
12:07 MJ : from shai’s webinar
12:08 KK : and please give time to book..
12:08 Chandrashekhar : phir se FIB??..(12:07) MJ : G can give new _____ 🙂
12:08 MJ : haha!
12:08 Ankush Jain : getting there
12:08 MJ : Slow day, all notes out to read while markets are on.
12:09 Sanjib : volumes have dried up
12:09 KK : they are eating CEs
12:11 Shai : sl at 14428 on NF shorts now
12:13 Chandrashekhar : G here
12:14 Yash : 397 test?
12:17 Ankush Jain : je bat
12:17 Shai : 2 mins late
12:17 Ankush Jain : UG missing today?
12:17 Surendra : big swipe down
12:17 KK : done
12:18 Shai : Book full lows of 383- (11:45) Shai : shirt NF again 14438 sl fo 14468 tgt 14200/ 14375
12:18 Shai : Gor the reason?- (12:04) Shai : wwe wait 10 mins
12:18 Shai : G
12:18 Ankush Jain : shai TSL for 14500 ce/
12:19 MJ : +100 (12:07) MJ : G can give new _____ 🙂
12:19 MJ : Lows
12:19 Chandrashekhar : ha ha..
12:19 Rajiv Ohri : anyone for 31200?
12:19 Chandrashekhar : this is good MJ
12:19 Shai : Uttam had to take his Mom to the hospital
12:19 Shai : He will be back later
12:19 MJ : Damm. Covid?
12:19 MJ : Hope all is well. Prayers.
12:19 Chandrashekhar : oh hope al is well?
12:19 Ankush Jain : oops. hope she is good
12:19 MJ : Guys TSL.
12:20 Shai : covid
12:20 Prashant : oh…
12:20 MJ : greens have come together. both index.
12:20 Rohit : That’s tough. Prayers
12:20 Rajiv Ohri : oops 12:20 Shai : covid
12:20 MJ : you know what usually happens when they come in sync.
12:21 Prashant : y poc there..
12:21 Ankush Jain : Shai 0s as new resistance now?
12:21 KK : BNF, but my vPOC is at 30800 what to do
12:21 Ankush Jain : 14410
12:22 MJ : bnf too creams that gap nicely.
12:22 Chandrashekhar : BNF below PDH
12:23 Rajesh G : shai 80% chance rule
12:23 Govind : LLT level broken by the day’s first biggest LLT, done for the day now. 11:56 Govind : sellers need to break this 14417 cleanly
12:23 Chandrashekhar : NF for 340 Shai?
12:23 MJ : vwap bands bnf.
12:23 Sanjib : +1 Gov
12:23 Surendra : chief next level on lowside?
12:24 Surendra : are the wheels coming off once more 🙂
12:26 Shai : 14355 is POC
12:26 Ankit Maheshwari : 2IB done
12:26 Shai : next review if that goes
12:26 Shai : 14417 upper ref
12:26 Ankush Jain : 14417 at 0s?
12:26 Shai : short was right at 14340 not here at 14365 yet
12:26 Shai : those who missed may wait for break of 355
12:27 Shai : fully booked and flat
12:28 Ranjith : chief VPOC 14355 level ..
12:28 Ranjith : Not able to track in order flow.
12:29 Ranjith : yesterday vpoc at 14379
12:30 Shai : vpoc is a range
12:30 Shai : not 1 level
12:30 Shai : use 14355- 373
12:30 Ranjith : ok thanks chief
12:34 Shai : Buy 14600 pe at 245 sl of 220 tgt 295
12:37 Milind : NF Future target @ Shai?
12:39 Shai : 14317
12:40 Chandrashekhar : any ‘wheels coming off’ moment today Shai?
12:42 Chandrashekhar : BNF EOA?
12:42 Shai : 265 book half- (12:34) Shai : Buy 14600 pe at 245 sl of 220 tgt 295
12:42 Chandrashekhar : 68 orders present at lows ..SLo’s?
12:43 Shai : sl at 243 now
12:44 Shai : 14357
12:44 Ankush Jain : yes
12:45 MJ : slurrrp
12:45 Shai : This was for tom :)- (11:14) Shai : if we get a good extension now we shoulkd revisit 14300(11:15) Shai : let’s take it a step at a time
12:45 Ankush Jain : +1
12:46 KK : is BNF done ?
12:47 Shai : Book the PE fully- (12:34) Shai : Buy 14600 pe at 245 sl of 220 tgt 295
12:47 K2dt : +1 chief
12:48 MJ : done saheb!
12:48 KK : 31K PE 280 to 245
12:48 MJ : bnf mein maal bhara hai?
12:48 MJ : KK Cheerio!
12:48 Shai : 279 she did
12:48 MJ : 219 to 307 bnf for me. part out.
12:48 KK : abhi ruko aur baaki hai
12:48 MJ : wants ibl. mcdreamy!
12:49 Prashant : that was a good trade shai ! Cheers 🙂
12:49 Surendra : sniper shot chief _/\_
12:49 K2dt : chotu trade 378-408 31200ce
12:49 K2dt : 1253 greens
12:49 MJ : 284 nf my man!
12:50 MJ : get me 417 nf.
12:50 KK : fully booked at 228 now. in 400 CE
12:50 K2dt : lol MJ.. u want him to serve u dessert 🙂
12:50 MJ : 🙂
12:50 Shai : BNF watch 31500- 540
12:50 Shai : is also vwap
12:52 K2dt : bnf giving more?
12:52 MJ : ibl toh aapo kush please.
12:52 KK : BNF took support at L singles near IBH of yesterday
12:52 K2dt : hamna ayu samjo 🙂
12:52 MJ : TSL on. just below pdh.
12:52 MJ : don’t want to give greens.
12:53 KK : 400 CE 74 to 85
12:53 MJ : KK has bought the entire ce and F spectrum.
12:53 MJ : cheers.
12:53 K2dt : +1 KK
12:53 KK : H, is BNF capable of going back to VWAP on this ?
12:53 MJ : kitna variety hai bhai? 🙂
12:53 KK : MJ, on BNF greens only, NF has to recover..kya ?
12:54 MJ : 410-417 exit orders.
12:54 MJ : waiting.
12:54 MJ : 50%
12:54 K2dt : K mei anything left k action done?
12:56 MJ : Out (12:52) MJ : TSL on. just below pdh.
12:58 MJ : All out longs.
12:58 MJ : tsl hit nf too.
12:58 Shai : stil is LL in NF
12:58 MJ : yes chief
12:58 Shai : not recommending longs unless you are quick
12:58 MJ : pdh threw it down
12:58 MJ : was expecting to conquer it
12:58 Ankush Jain : only F did’nt make LL
12:59 Shai : 14410 down – (12:26) Shai : 14417 upper ref(12:26) Ankush Jain: 14417 at 0s?
12:59 Ankush Jain : +1
12:59 KK : i thought you would wait for 1250 greens level in bnf
13:00 Ankush Jain : 14500 ce stalling at 45
13:00 MJ : 14311 3ib.
13:02 MJ : 349 bnf
13:02 MJ : lal cutie.
13:03 K2dt : chief since we had en ext in G, K period trade is low probablity?
13:04 MJ : bnf wants to polish profile?
13:04 MJ : that G single.
13:05 Surendra : are we in for this chief (12:50) Shai : BNF watch 31500- 540
13:05 Surendra : green band on BNF
13:06 Aditya09 : cheif can we add dvah/l in go to charts?
13:07 MJ : bnf dpoc has shifted down
13:12 Shai : sure- will add- (13:06) Aditya09 : cheif can we add dvah/l in go to charts?
13:12 Ankit Maheshwari : Greens piling in BNF
13:12 Aditya09 : thank u cheif
13:13 KK : shai, 400 CE above 90 , can stress sellers ?
13:13 Chandrashekhar : more OI has been added into that CE during this fall
13:17 MJ : via 31300 ce (13:02) MJ : 349 bnf(13:02) MJ : lal cutie.(13:04) MJ : bnf wants to polish profile?(13:04) MJ : that G single.
13:17 MJ : Done.
13:19 Rajesh G : shai can we take IBL rejection trade
13:19 Rajesh G : nf
13:20 KK : VWAP ko aane do
13:22 KK : aayo aayo re
13:22 MJ : KK bhai
13:24 Surendra : any open trades here?
13:25 MJ : IBL entry karao bnf?
13:28 Ankush Jain : shorted NF near 14417
13:28 Yash : waited for 428, missed it
13:28 KK : 400 CE exaclt returned from 90
13:28 MJ : invalidation Ankush?
13:30 Ankush Jain : yes MJ
13:30 Ankush Jain : that 0s
13:30 Rajesh G : mj trade below deval bnf
13:31 MJ : Okay rajesh
13:33 KK : Shai, is it heading 316 , NF ?
13:33 MJ : means dval 31269 below that you want to initiate? @Rajesh
13:33 Rajesh G : mj can we take it
13:33 Rajesh G : yes
13:33 Shai : consolidating 14355- 14417
13:33 Shai : pre holiday trade
13:34 Shai : 14600 pe has good supp at 220 but PE upsides looking capped
13:34 Shai : hence sideways agin
13:34 MJ : Fade extremes @rajesh. It that 1200 contract in bnf is my ref.
13:34 MJ : So short near IBL was better entry for bnf.
13:35 Rajesh G : thanks MJ
13:35 MJ : rest Shai and Veterans can guie.
13:35 MJ : I am not too short on bnf.
13:35 Piyush Kakadiya : Straddle is good
13:35 MJ : Trading conservatively now.
13:35 Shai : 31490 and down- (12:50) Shai : BNF watch 31500- 540
13:35 MJ : yesboss.
13:35 MJ : waited tad too much to get ibl cross 🙁
13:36 K2dt : bn pe’s were defending vwap 🙂
13:36 K2dt : super one chief (13:35) Shai : 31490 and down- (12:50) Shai : BNF watch 31500- 540
13:36 MJ : KK aap 90 ko sambhalo 14400 ce
13:37 KK : 83 pe sell kar ke baithe hain..Kahin 90 ka SL na kat jaaye..
13:38 MJ : na 🙂
13:40 Anand : BNF mein itne greens ?
13:40 Anand : SLs of reds stuck at top ?
13:41 MJ : where are those 2k vol bars nf 🙁
13:43 Prashant : poc shifted lower in nf
13:46 Ankush Jain : 14395 it is
13:49 Surendra : one more swipe down to 14355 and below possible chief?
13:49 KK : exiting at cost
13:51 KK : scared of J nowadays
13:52 Shai : 14400 pe becomes a carry if we do not cross over 14425 by close
13:53 Shai : we should taregt 14232
13:54 MJ : 264 bnf reds
13:55 MJ : 736 vol is bars we are getting :/
13:59 MJ : Kraken K today
13:59 MJ : ?
14:02 Tejaswini : VPOC is absorbing all the supply in BNF?
14:04 Ankit Maheshwari : Finance Minister says not in favour of #lockdown across the country
14:05 MJ : Oh we have a fin min?
14:06 Jitender : tis was last week news
14:06 Jitender : it was tweet by PHDCC head
14:06 Ankit Maheshwari : PHDCC whats that?
14:07 Tejaswini : Jit your levels please..
14:07 Jitender : srry sun even tweet
14:07 Ankush Jain : FM kee sunta kaun ahi?
14:07 Jitender : phd chamber of comm
14:07 Ankit Maheshwari : no lockdown = more cases?
14:07 Jitender : Tejas Shai has outline 500 on up…200 is on low side….its rotation
14:08 Jitender : are tere any open calls ..sumone askn on DM..who isnt logged ?
14:08 Surendra : no volumes, show we wait for algos
14:10 Ankit Maheshwari : I,J were quiet
14:10 Tejaswini : Yup. Thanks. (14:07) Jitender : Tejas Shai has outline 500 on up…200 is on low side….its rotation
14:11 Tejaswini : Jit this VPOC is acting like a magnet for a while now. What do we look for in such scenarios?
14:12 Jitender : writer’s managing the show
14:12 Jitender : press on rises…due to holiday as cases may rise
14:13 Jitender : above 460 approx..u will get sum SC
14:13 Tejaswini : +1. Thanks
14:13 Jitender : and below 260-280 liquidation
14:13 Chandrashekhar : K here
14:16 Shai : +1- (14:12) Jitender : writer’s managing the show
14:16 Chandrashekhar : no action in K?
14:16 Shai : BNF has revolved at 31350
14:16 Shai : 2 hiurs now
14:17 Ankush Jain : NF at 14380
14:17 Ankush Jain : for 2 hours
14:17 Surendra : big move awaited
14:17 Shai : NF still the same pre holiday trade- (13:33) Shai : consolidating 14355- 14417(13:33) Shai : pre holiday trade
14:18 Surendra : can we anticipate up or down transistion chief?
14:18 Shai : +1- (14:17) Ankush Jain: NF at 14380
14:18 Shai : seller controls below 14427- 455- (14:18) Surendra : can we anticipate up or down transistion chief?
14:18 Ankush Jain : lets see when & where it gives away
14:19 Shai : trigger is 14355 now
14:19 Chandrashekhar : 31344 has 6 bars POC in BNF
14:20 Shai : 31200 BNF
14:20 Shai : vol has been built for a shakeout if it wants
14:21 Surya ganti : 0s
14:21 Ankush Jain : 355 goes
14:21 Chandrashekhar : 995 greesn again 0’s below
14:21 Surya ganti : that was quick!
14:21 Ankush Jain : K ka swagat nahin karoge
14:22 Arul : 32000 pe 770 to 902
14:22 Shai : 14368 sl into close
14:23 Shai : ride this for 14265
14:23 Sadees : chief, short here with 14368 sl would be ok?
14:24 Sadees : missed to short when 14355 crossed
14:24 Shai : yes
14:24 Chandrashekhar : no carry forward Shai?
14:24 Ankush Jain : patience pays
14:24 Ankush Jain : 3 DT done
14:25 Shai : +1
14:25 Shai : stay in
14:25 KK : 2 DT..Now just watch
14:25 Chetan null : any sl for Short
14:25 Shai : BNF can closck down to 3095-0
14:25 Surya ganti : SL for bnf?
14:25 MJ : That 417 was solid ref chief. (13:00) MJ : 14311 3ib.
14:26 Arul : puts booked… volatility high…
14:26 Arul : or should we stay in options?
14:26 KK : CE OTM could be sold, lil more safe
14:27 Sanjib : I am in 14400 May monthly PE at 375; to take advantage of Vega
14:27 Chetan null : @shai plz sl for short
14:28 KK : especially, BNF , as might give more
14:28 Shai : Buy 14400 pe at 139 sl of 118 tgt 190
14:29 Yash : push
14:29 Chandrashekhar : 316 YVwap here for NF
14:29 Surya ganti : before the 3pm monkeys come in 😛
14:30 Jitender : if 224 is sustained in bnf…late shrts may b forced to close
14:30 Yash : jit let me get 265 in nf first
14:31 Jitender : all yrs Yash…..m done fr today….
14:31 Yash : thanks bade bhai!
14:31 Yash : ha to chalo!
14:31 Yash : K me hi khatam kar lete he!
14:32 Shai : 159 book half- (14:28) Shai : Buy 14400 pe at 139 sl of 118 tgt 190
14:32 Shai : sl at cost now
14:33 KK : I am booking only, and wait for 224 to cross , Since Jit said so
14:33 Shai : (14:22) Shai : 14368 sl into close
14:34 Shai : saw how they built and lured them in?- (14:20) Shai : vol has been built for a shakeout if it wants
14:34 Surya ganti : great call there shai
14:34 Chandrashekhar : Shai no carry forwards for short trade?
14:35 Shai : no
14:35 KK : +1 Shai
14:36 Shai : 14296- (14:23) Shai : ride this for 14265(14:25) Shai : stay in
14:37 Govind : 14295 keeps reloading
14:37 Govind : watch this level
14:38 Prashant : 285 val y
14:39 Prashant : over?
14:41 MJ : 4ib 14236
14:41 Shai : no
14:42 Shai : holiday effect coming into option prices]
14:42 MJ : (09:57) MJ : Day range is chotu for nf so far.(09:57) MJ : multi ib day probable?
14:42 MJ : 3ib toh mardie!
14:42 Surya ganti : exit the put and ride NF shai?
14:42 Chandrashekhar : +1 MJ
14:42 K2dt : chaukka kar do MJ
14:42 MJ : Shai ke upar hai.
14:42 Shai : Trail the PE at 153 now
14:43 Vishnu : anychance of 14k nearby shai?
14:43 Amit : why not 13800 vishnu?
14:43 Shai : lol
14:43 Surendra : some analyst gave levels of 13500 as well 🙂
14:43 Shai : K done
14:43 Amit : your repeat level…..
14:43 Rohit : Slowly nudging NF lower with no significant red COT
14:43 MJ : L follows K.
14:43 MJ : ?
14:44 MJ : chief I want 201 on that pe. pleej.
14:44 Shai : 14325 trailing NF
14:44 Shai : stay in
14:44 Shai : can get 50 more
14:46 Yash : RIL closing below 1900?
14:48 Surya ganti : alll my triggers hit.. all out 🙂
14:48 Shai : 189.5- (14:28) Shai : Buy 14400 pe at 139 sl of 118 tgt 190
14:48 Surendra : _/|_
14:48 Ankush Jain : +++1111
14:48 Ankit Maheshwari : over shai?
14:49 Shai : book full
14:49 Sanjib : +100
14:49 Amit : +++++
14:49 Prashant : awesome
14:49 Shai : 14260- (14:23) Shai : ride this for 14265
14:49 MJ : 188 allout (14:44) MJ : chief I want 201 on that pe. pleej.
14:49 KK : 186 boked..+1
14:49 KK : now what is bNF waiting
14:49 KK : for
14:49 Prashant : no test of Y lows?
14:49 Uttam : both NF & giving a nice Trend Day after a good time 🙂
14:50 MJ : aur hai
14:50 MJ : usme.
14:50 Uttam : NF & BNF
14:50 Surya ganti : +1
14:50 KK : 940 bula raha hai
14:50 Prashant : all good uttam?
14:50 Sumeet : hey uttam. hope mom is well
14:50 Surya ganti : BNF i exited early.. NF was a lovely wave to ride
14:50 MJ : boarded again 182
14:50 Shai : I kept telling you all to stay in
14:50 Chandrashekhar : +100 Shai
14:50 Uttam : yes S _/\_ very mild symptoms so she is in home quarantine
14:50 Shai : destination was clear
14:50 Uttam : thanks P
14:50 Ankush Jain : we did
14:50 Sunil : superb shai 🙂
14:50 MJ : +++++++++
14:51 Sumeet : prayers and wishes
14:51 Uttam : missed a TRend Day bus today 😉
14:51 Uttam : thanks so much _/\_
14:51 Chandrashekhar : Prayers and wishes for your mom UG
14:51 Sunil : hope you MOM is doing well
14:51 Ankush Jain : hope your mom is fine UG. Prayers & wishes for her
14:51 Arul : Uttam take care… everyone pls stay safe
14:51 Rohit : Take care UG, of the entire family
14:51 Surya ganti : take care UG
14:52 Uttam : thankas so much guys, whe n you have so much of positivity here in the room all will be well 🙂 _/\_
14:52 Prashant : MoM beofre everything man….
14:52 Ravi : take care UG
14:52 Surya ganti : anyone else poistive at home UG?
14:52 Ravi : wishes and prayers for you
14:52 Shai : BNF can crash 100 below 14232
14:52 Milind : Take Care, UG. Preyers and best wishes for her speedy recovery !
14:52 Shai : NF can crash 100**
14:52 Uttam : BNF going for 30800?
14:53 Jitender : take care UG..hope alls well
14:53 Ashwin : good to know uttam! hope she recovers soon. take care!
14:53 Uttam : yes all well Jit, just got the tests done to be sure as she has very mild symptoms so fingers crossed _/\_
14:53 Ankush Jain : any TSL for NF Shai?
14:53 Uttam : 14295?
14:53 MJ : 6 short. (14:41) MJ : 4ib 14236
14:54 Sanjib : Hi UG, my prayers are with you
14:54 MJ : UG take care mate.
14:54 Jitender : may God belss us all
14:54 Ankit Maheshwari : Shai in?
14:54 Shai : 14275 trailing
14:54 KK : aatya kya
14:55 MJ : 14300 pe wants 150++ now
14:55 Uttam : lets do it – (14:52) Uttam : BNF going for 30800?
14:55 MJ : PDL aaja aabhi
14:55 MJ : Multi ib day.
14:55 MJ : small ib
14:55 KK : 780 would be better
14:55 Uttam : thanks once again all of you guys _/\_
14:55 MJ : same template since years 🙂
14:56 Rajesh G : ug take care of mom
14:57 Anand : 0s in NF
14:57 MJ : vwap band too.
14:57 Uttam : yes R _/\_
14:57 Jitender : said earlier in slack…steam is must …pls start takn it if u guys arent doing it
14:57 Arul : Enjoyed the day… missed out the last ride… but still a very happy day!
14:58 Uttam : yes Jit, mom has been taking it since last year and had got her first dose of vaccine also done may be that is why symptoms are mild
14:58 Uttam : inspite of her age and she being a diabetic – so do not panic guys – All will be well 🙂
14:59 Uttam : but continue to take all precautions
14:59 Jitender : +1
14:59 KK : Vit C and Zincovit ,she must be taking..Also, Soup in the evening helps with the weakness..Wishing her a speedy recovery
15:00 Shai : Book all shotts
15:00 Shai : don’t take new
15:00 Ankush Jain : shutter down
15:00 Uttam : +1
15:00 Uttam : thanks KK yes the doc gave the multivitamin tabs today
15:00 MJ : Jit that vwap band alert of yours working again here.
15:00 MJ : I mean something you’ve told us many times.
15:01 Uttam : that 14300pe hit yVWAP of and now back to
15:01 Uttam : writers ko maarke its job done
15:01 Chandrashekhar : +1 Uttam
15:01 MJ : Enough to book out (14:57) Anand : 0s in NF(14:57) MJ : vwap band too.
15:02 Shai : didn’t get vol below 14232
15:02 Shai : hope all booke dquick
15:02 MJ : +1 shai
15:02 MJ : yess
15:02 Ankush Jain : yesss
15:02 Surya ganti : monkeys came in at 3:05
15:02 MJ : now 3ib setup trailer it is giving now only.
15:03 Uttam : holiday tom so shorts not being carried?
15:03 Adnan : MJ : Jit that vwap band alert of yours working again here. sorry missed the mesg there.what was it ?
15:03 Uttam : important day it is too so lets see from Thursday if we get a fresh move
15:03 MJ : Adnan: Jit usually alerts when vwap bands hit.
15:03 Swapnil : Are these shorts covering?
15:04 KK : 30800 PE 270 to 226, last trade..BYe guys
15:04 MJ : I had mentioned when it hit vwap bands. sd level of vwap bands.
15:04 K2dt : 31kce 320-362
15:04 K2dt : congo all in green guys
15:04 MJ : @adnan (14:57) MJ : vwap band too.
15:04 K2dt : MJ vwap band wats tat?
15:05 MJ : At lows there was 3sd of vwap band marked in nf.
15:05 MJ : roughly at around 14220
15:05 K2dt : ok..got it tx
15:06 Uttam : nce again arnd 14380 in NF?
15:06 Uttam : close*
15:06 Uttam : both have greens
15:06 Shai : quick moves
15:06 Shai : All safe?
15:06 Bhupesh : ys
15:06 K2dt : timely exit chief
15:06 Surya ganti : AYE AYE
15:06 Rohit : Yes
15:06 Chetan null : yes
15:07 Ankush Jain : no long trades today
15:07 KK : why these shorts always get stuck, Shai already tol;d to close..230 to 195 30800 PE..this was last..bye
15:07 Sag1 SAWANT : +100
15:07 Surendra : yes chief, gave back little profit by late trade looking at 14232 message
15:07 Sandeep Partham : yes sir…made decent gains based on your guidance
15:07 Ashwin : yes shai, thank you!
15:07 MJ : KK they don’t watch OF.
15:07 Uttam : 14328 & 14348 are those big greens who could get a revisit?
15:08 Uttam : K period ext handle at 14352
15:09 K2dt : 31k ce did 100 pts from lows lol
15:09 K2dt : 130 actually
15:09 Uttam : BNF got rejected from yesterdays Value
15:09 K2dt : UG..i wish ur mom a speedy recovery
15:10 Uttam : thanks K _/\_
15:10 K2dt : chief thursday again will get spoiled due to holiday?
15:10 Shai : pull back could be done in BNF
15:11 Shai : 31267 sl for shorts
15:12 Shai : 31055 destination
15:13 Surya ganti : do we have the time though?
15:13 Shai : Avoid
15:13 MJ : nf for VWAP?
15:13 MJ : anyone
15:13 Uttam : (15:07) Uttam : 14328 & 14348 are those big greens who could get a revisit?
15:13 Shai : didn’t see the time 🙂
15:13 Surya ganti : 🙂
15:13 Sadees : 🙂
15:13 Shai : Hope all good here
15:13 Shai : And had a rocking day
15:13 MJ : I thought you were creating N period chief.
15:13 MJ : 😛
15:13 Chetan null : +1
15:13 K2dt : lol MJ
15:13 Surya ganti : ydays paap washed out and more 🙂
15:13 Sadees : yes Chief.. +1
15:13 Shai : lol @MJ
15:14 Surya ganti : lol MJ
15:14 Uttam : 🙂
15:14 Shai : got lost in the flow
15:14 MJ : Nolan movie kinda auction.
15:14 MJ : has to happen 🙂
15:14 K2dt : sapne k andar ek aur sapna 🙂
15:14 MJ : AMAZE AF day.
15:14 MJ : Aur lao gaps
15:14 MJ : bc.
15:15 K2dt : if this wud have happened on thursday we wud have literally minted 🙂
15:15 K2dt : classic OAOR and then pop
15:16 MJ : thursday menu is different kush.
15:16 Shai : This was done- (13:53) Shai : we should taregt 14232
15:16 MJ : Tabhi bhi khayenge.
15:16 K2dt : +1 MJ bro
15:16 Shai : though we got greedy and wanted more 🙂
15:16 MJ : Chief projections were vol based?
15:16 MJ : Curious. Coz I was aiming 4ib and 236 was 4ib
15:16 Shai : 30917 and bounce – (14:25) Shai : BNF can closck down to 3095-0
15:17 Sanjiv : shai:range for thu? thx
15:17 Shai : we have 14300 spot as zone for expiry into thurs
15:17 Chetas : NF in discount
15:17 K2dt : bn chief?
15:17 Shai : This needs repair
15:17 Surya ganti : reds are fresh shorts or profit booking
15:17 Shai : but we will set stage for 13900 from here
15:17 MJ : Shai that 14300 combo is trending down since B period yest.
15:18 MJ : even after all the drama of updown
15:18 MJ : Today also, post B period it kept lingering down.
15:18 Shai : sab kuch volume :)- (15:16) MJ : Chief projections were vol based?
15:18 MJ : /\
15:18 MJ : galat sawaal to sahi insaan 😀
15:18 Uttam : +1 Shai thanks for that 13900 confirmation, was asking about it yesterday
15:19 MJ : happy happy!
15:19 Mahendrasingh : sir can we carry monthly exp put ?
15:19 Uttam : for holidays only carry —– 😉
15:19 Mahendrasingh : 🙂
15:21 MJ : Read this again room 🙂 (09:42) Shai : with a holiday tom, K is the high potential trade for now on this open
15:21 Surya ganti : (wow)
15:21 MJ : Telling us within 30 min of the open. Where to be most alert.
15:21 Ankush Jain : and K did deliver
15:21 Uttam : G also did what it needs to do
15:21 Surya ganti : had to take my mom for vaccine 2nd dose.. went in the 1st half after that message
15:21 Uttam : OAOR after move was started in G
15:21 MJ : Yes UG.
15:21 Surya ganti : of course, no vaccines 😛
15:21 MJ : OAOR rules
15:22 MJ : When you know the day type life is good (09:47) MJ : OAOR rule revision karo and lag jao kaam par.
15:23 MJ : Open type***
15:23 Surya ganti : fresh shorts in NF?
15:23 Tejaswini : +1 MJ. Chief mentioned K in the morning itself
15:23 MJ : yes tej
15:23 Surya ganti : looks like we have a gap down on thurs
15:23 MJ : thank you chief.
15:23 Ashwin : +1 mj
15:23 MJ : Big ups for you!
15:23 Tejaswini : And what a K it has been
15:23 Surya ganti : love those high conviction moves!
15:23 MJ : for keeping the chalks cane and pes handy!
15:24 Ankush Jain : RG tests +ve and NF falls
15:24 Ankush Jain : 🙂
15:26 Ankit Maheshwari : 14100PE rising too much in last 10 mins
15:26 Bhavin : ug my best wishes for health of your mom.. wish her a speedy recovery.. tc…
15:26 Mayur : UG – wish your mom a speedy recovery
15:27 Bhavesh : UG wish your mom speedy recovery
15:28 Bhavin : team have a lovely evening.. enjoy the holiday….tc…
15:28 Ankush Jain : not a good closing
15:28 Shai : 14390- 14150 range for Thursday open
15:28 Jitender : tc guys n stay safe
15:28 Shai : Tc all
15:28 Bhupesh : ty
15:28 Shai : stay well and safe and in good health
15:28 Ankush Jain : +1
15:28 Shai : see you thurs at open
15:28 Uttam : thanks all of you once again _/\_
15:28 Milind : bye
15:28 Surya ganti : bye everyone
15:28 Uttam : have a relaxing & safe holiday
15:28 Swapnil : Take care UG. Bye everyone
15:29 Surya ganti : and dont go out.. train , train and train
15:29 Amit : yes yes yes
15:29 Surya ganti : (talking to myself)
15:29 Piyush Kakadiya : first day with you . what wonder full day
15:30 Ashwin : tc everyone!