Order Flow charts dated 30th May

Many traders are used to viewing volume as a histogram beneath a price chart. But the OrderFlow approach shows the amount of volume traded during each price bar, and also it breaks this volume down into the Volume generated by the Buyers and the Volume generated by the sellers again at every row of price the market traded at.

An Order Flow trader can actually see exactly what is happening in the market as it happens. Once you are able to understand what is happening in the present, you are able to make far better decisions about what might happen in the future. Order Flow provides traders with vision into market activity.

NF (June)

30 Min Fp Nf 20 Order Flow Charts Dated 30Th May Banknifty Futures, Day Trading, Intraday Trading, Intraday Trading Strategies, Nifty Futures, Order Flow Analysis, Support And Resistance, Trading Strategies, Volume Profile Trading


BNF (June)

30 Min Bnf Bid 21 Order Flow Charts Dated 30Th May Banknifty Futures, Day Trading, Intraday Trading, Intraday Trading Strategies, Nifty Futures, Order Flow Analysis, Support And Resistance, Trading Strategies, Volume Profile Trading


Room Chat

09:18 Shai : (09:18) Shai : Intra – BUY BNF 31310 sl of 31230 tgt 31455

09:43 Shai : (09:43) Shai : BNF 31360 . Book out
(09:43) Shai : 31360

11:10 Shai : (11:10) Shai : Intra – BUy NF abv 11919 sl of 11892 tgt 11967. Buy abv**

11:30 Shai : (11:29) Shai : Update – if your long got activated scratch here at 11915

12:27 Shai : (12:27) Shai : Buy BNF again 31530 sl of 31440 tgt 31660

13:03 Shai : (13:03) Shai : Hold the BNF with new SL of 31414

13:19 Shai : (13:19) Shai : BNF at 31590 . Book half here and now hold at 31530 the rest

13:23 Shai : (13:23) Shai : Book the BNF fully at 31580


08:50 Shai : GM all
08:51 Shai : https://vtrender.in/market-profile-analysis-dated-29th-may/
08:54 Shai : The big guy is at 11950 and 11980- 11900 June F as we appoach the last day
08:54 Uttam : Good Morning All 🙂
08:55 Shai : yesterday’s biggest rolls were at 11946 June F and 11961 Juen F about 1L each
08:55 Shai : series dpoc of May at 11736 spot with vwap of 11585
08:57 Shai : shiort term profile is the 3 day gaussian
08:57 Shai : anticpating a move back to 11900- 11908F this open with sl below 11830
08:57 Chandrashekhar : GM all
09:00 Uttam : Spot hypos updated for today & tom in hypos channel on slack
09:00 Shai : +1
09:01 Amjad : gm all
09:04 Ravi : @Uttam only nifty got updated
09:06 Uttam : BankNifty is same as given on SAturday, no changes
09:06 Ravi : ok Tq
09:06 Uttam : plus you can follow BNF Hypos of daily report
09:08 Jitender : Gm Folks 🙂
09:08 Amjad : gm all
09:10 Deepak : GM all
09:11 Himanshu : GM all
09:12 Uttam : USDINR gap down
09:12 Uttam : rejecting Neutral extreme of yesterday
09:13 Uttam : MP concepts work in all the scrips 🙂
09:13 Psandeep : Gm All
09:13 Shai : perfect Uttam
09:13 Thanika : GM all
09:13 Uttam : _/\_ Shai
09:14 Uttam : whats with this 71k red? apperaring 2 times in NF
09:15 Sandip : GM All
09:15 Shai : Long is for 11910
09:16 MJ : GM all.
09:16 Ashutosh : GM all
09:16 Govind : GM guys
09:17 MJ : That 71k is a rollover to june with green.
09:18 MJ : Nice buying at open in June OF.
09:18 Uttam : there are 2 71ks Mihir
09:18 Shai : Intra – BUY BNF 31310 sl of 31230 tgt 31455
09:18 Uttam : yes June seems to have a IB of 1L
09:18 MJ : Uttam I feel printed twice. that 771775
09:18 Uttam : could be
09:19 MJ : 717758
09:19 MJ : 71775* sorry guys butter fingers.
09:20 AN : 🙂
09:21 Uttam : yes gone one of them
09:21 Shai : yes early morning tick that was with styops
09:21 Uttam : lets get above 11883 for a 80%
09:22 Uttam : 11910 & 11937 targets then
09:22 Shai : +1
09:24 Govind : It is gone now….Uttam : there are 2 71ks Mihir
09:24 Uttam : Nifty Spot Hypo A) Nifty needs to sustain above 11889-897 for a move higher to 11920 / 11932-937 / 11960-969
09:24 Uttam : 11889 high so far there
09:37 Anubhav null : here goez
09:40 Shai : 11898
09:40 Shai : pre market plan – (08:57) Shai : anticpating a move back to 11900- 11908F this open with sl below 11830
09:40 Sandip : +1 Shai
09:41 Sandip : Yesterdays vwap quota being completed today
09:41 MJ : Time ran out yest Sandip 🙂
09:42 Sandip : yep
09:43 MJ : Daily bread done (09:18) MJ : Nice buying at open in June OF.
09:43 Shai : BNF 11360 . Book out
09:43 Shai : 31360
09:44 Shubro : 1 DT done
09:44 Shai : will buy the sip again
09:44 Shubro : +1 Shai
09:44 Shai : Those who want to hold till 3 pm can maintian same sl and tgt
09:45 Sandip : N1 Shi=ubro and MJ
09:45 Sandip : srry Shubro*
09:45 Shubro : hey GM Sandip np 🙂
09:45 MJ : Thanks Sandip 🙂
09:45 Jitender : 31.1ce 206-277
09:46 Amit : 1DT done 🙂 +1 shai
09:46 Uttam : 11850ce 43 tp 60 – 50% out
09:46 Shai : book if in here – (09:15) Shai : Long is for 11910
09:46 MJ : Great stuff room! 🙂
09:46 Jitender : congo all
09:46 Uttam : (09:21) Uttam : lets get above 11883 for a 80%(09:22) Uttam : 11910 & 11937 targets then
09:46 Uttam : KISS
09:46 Shubro : DT rules Jai ho Jit
09:47 Shubro : Jit book on position sizing, MP and risk management to banta hai
09:47 Jitender : +100
09:48 Shubro : along with strike selection
09:49 Shubro : short at 11903
09:51 Shubro : ping pong day giys again today?
09:51 Shubro : *guys
09:52 Govind : Vix based range given by Suyog is pretty good Shubro…move may come
09:52 Shubro : yeah hoping so Govind
09:52 Shubro : scalping till then
09:52 Govind : same here
09:52 Govind : got out of longs at that big red dot
09:52 Shubro : pav bhaji money
09:54 Govind : At least today’s IB is bigger than y’day
09:56 Uttam : BNF is an ORR up
09:57 Rahul Desai : Govind what dioes that Big Red Dot indicate?
09:57 Uttam : Trend Day on expiry anyone 😉
09:58 Himanshu : yes – am game for same
09:58 Govind : Seller imbalance, BIG Sell….
09:58 Rahul Desai : ok
09:58 Rahul Desai : Thanks Govind
09:58 Govind : CHeers
09:58 MJ : Then I am seeing all of your north bound hypos uttam 🙂
09:58 MJ : And timely pullbacks.
09:58 Himanshu : Govind – u refer morning selling has casued imbalance –
09:59 Himanshu : Have I understood right
09:59 Govind : At that point in time Himanshu, NF upmove was stalled by the big sell
10:00 Uttam : damn GDFL down today & TD working
10:00 Ashutosh : yes TD workign
10:01 Uttam : will check options in MPLite 🙂
10:01 Ashutosh : mplite is working
10:02 Uttam : the other link which Suyog has given on slack
10:02 MJ : options yet to be added no?
10:02 MJ : I guess suyog is working on them.
10:02 Uttam : oh yes just checked no options 😉
10:03 Uttam : 11850pe being royally written
10:03 Suyog : gm guys..
10:03 Suyog : someone called out for mplite? 🙂
10:03 Uttam : hey Suyog
10:03 Uttam : me 🙂
10:03 MJ : Hola!
10:03 Govind : We miss mplite Suyog
10:03 Suyog : yh.. will have to wait a bit for options.. moving servers is not so easy after all 🙁
10:03 Ashutosh : lol
10:03 Uttam : no issues Suyog
10:04 Jitender : Anubhav..u tere ?
10:04 Suyog : futures and spot data only there, for now
10:04 Uttam : take your time, we are getting the best man so no issues in waiting
10:04 Suyog : +1 Uttam
10:04 Anubhav null : yes jit
10:04 Jitender : lighten up
10:05 Anubhav null : ok thanks
10:05 Uttam : hello 11910 & 31410
10:05 Govind : In that value zone of UG
10:05 Shubro : nifty wants to 11 920
10:05 Uttam : first part of 80% done both tag the POC of the Gaussian profile
10:06 Anubhav null : 🙂
10:06 Uttam : BN dos it in spot though in BNF POC is at 31480
10:06 Anubhav null : c coming up
10:07 Uttam : (09:18) Uttam : yes June seems to have a IB of 1L…till this IB holds we could be doing an OTF up
10:08 Anubhav null : bnf high ywvap
10:11 Thanika : @Uttam: There are some orange dots in 30mins gotoM chart, and it says VWAP, either at top or bottom? What is that
10:11 Govind : NF 30 min May OF is in deep purple
10:12 Uttam : @Thanika they are vwap bands
10:13 Uttam : 2 standard deviation from VWAP
10:13 Uttam : imp references
10:13 Thanika : ok, thanks
10:16 Himanshu : uttam – Boom
10:16 Himanshu : shall we book BNF F here
10:17 Shai : yes
10:17 Himanshu : thabks chief was carrying – Half
10:17 Hari : Shai. this is too much…BNF does exactly 31455. 70, how can you miss 70 paisa 🙂
10:17 Uttam : more to come Hari
10:18 Uttam : 31480-510 is the hvn zone
10:18 Hari : that was in lighter vein Uttam
10:18 Shubro : damn hit 920 NF
10:18 Uttam : +1 Hari
10:18 Himanshu : BNF crazy today
10:18 Hari : PSU banks rallying
10:18 Himanshu : above 440 – some level I guess
10:18 Uttam : Shai knew it right at open 🙂
10:19 Uttam : (10:06) Uttam : BN dos it in spot though in BNF POC is at 31480…BNF hgih so far 31474
10:19 Himanshu : someone knows new FM
10:19 Shubro : atta boy NF
10:19 MJ : Bhains sun bathing today Shubro?
10:19 Sandip : yep NF spot also looking strong
10:20 Shubro : yes he didnt go home yest….
10:20 Uttam : getting tanned that bhains 😉
10:20 Shubro : he didnt know market closes as well
10:21 Himanshu : Out NOw – BNF F – & 31300/200/400 PEs short pos
10:21 Anubhav null : vwap test coming up?
10:21 Uttam : so early VWAP test Anubhav?
10:21 Rahul Desai : big reds in Nifty
10:21 Anubhav null : c failure?
10:22 Uttam : few days are exception for that C failure & I feel today is one of them
10:22 Himanshu : What is Bhains
10:23 Uttam : but yes D needs to confirm that by makign new highs
10:23 Shai : C extension
10:23 Himanshu : on 3 mt BNF f chart – hammer – so clear
10:23 Shai : 11893 supp for day
10:23 Shai : 31395 in BNF
10:24 Anubhav null : ok thanks
10:25 Anubhav null : both vwaps close to 11893 in nf
10:25 Shubro : Bhains – buffalo Himanshu commonly mistaken for cow these days in india
10:26 MJ : Last 3 days composite
10:26 MJ : http://148.72.213.70/?symbol=NIFTY&startDate=27-05-2019&nDays=8&tpo=2&isComposite=1
10:26 MJ : Keep this handy.
10:27 Himanshu : Subhro – u sadi bhains did not go home
10:27 Himanshu : explain it technically – Haha
10:27 Shubro : we carried that trade conversation from yest when market was shorting
10:28 Himanshu : OHHHHHHk
10:28 Himanshu : may be i was numb being in -1.5 DT
10:28 Shubro : aiyoo
10:28 Himanshu : well balanced now
10:32 Himanshu : Max Pain at 31300 now – moved up 100 points in this session so far
10:34 MJ : AZ: You there?
10:34 Shubro : dval target now?
10:36 Shubro : quick swim again Sandip?
10:39 Rahul Desai : Shubro you mean 11879?
10:39 Rahul Desai : In Nifty>
10:39 Rahul Desai : ?
10:39 Shubro : thereabouts i suppose 🙂
10:39 Shubro : but lets see C fellas holding
10:39 Thanika : RS at top in NF? big red dots
10:42 Thanika : oh ok. not much in there..looks still like buy
10:43 Jitender : June has mix of rollovers
10:44 MJ : Yes so couple of 47k on top look rolls.
10:44 Jitender : options in may will change fast based on orders tere
10:44 MJ : Same value in june too.
10:44 Jitender : r u tradn may or june
10:44 Jitender : is my point
10:44 Jitender : lookn at june can be misleading if u r tradn ID
10:44 Jitender : on a 15min tf
10:44 Thanika : ok, jit. I am trading fut in May and Options in July
10:45 Jitender : exactly
10:45 Shubro : good input Jit many thanks
10:47 Shubro : Sandipppppp
10:47 Sandip : ?
10:47 Jitender : see 31.2ce is down 50bps…just on tat reds n PB
10:47 Himanshu : Jit – 31400 PE
10:47 Shubro : water baby again
10:48 Sandip : dunno , I feel grind zone for now
10:48 Shubro : hmm
10:50 Sandip : Maxx pain above 11850 for now
10:51 Shai : anyone know the clsoing vix of yesterday
10:51 Rajendra : 16.41
10:51 Govind : 16.41
10:52 Shai : thanks
10:52 Thanika : VIX was around 16.3 as far as i can recollect
10:54 Anubhav null : ywvap holding in bnf
10:55 Anubhav null : gud entry for day high tgt?
11:00 Govind : P formation in NF Uttam?
11:00 Himanshu : Chalo – Bhaio – Govind bolo hari gopal bolo
11:00 Uttam : Vix down from close Shai so good for continuing up?
11:01 Uttam : 11931 spot eas FA yesterday, lets get above it & do a 1atr up
11:01 Ashutosh : if D doesnt break highs the ABC elongation ?
11:02 Shai : what is ABC elongation?
11:03 Uttam : lol new to me too
11:04 Shai : C side extension was there today . does not work as good as background composite is stronger and a D
11:04 Sandip : ABC as in wave theory?
11:04 Ashutosh : no wave theory
11:04 Shai : but signals were there not to chase in C the longs
11:04 Sandip : oops
11:04 Ashutosh : got it chief
11:05 Ashutosh : C extention I took as elongation
11:05 Shai : A and B not imp @Ashutosh, The driver is always the C
11:05 Ashutosh : ok
11:05 Ashutosh : AB is just for IB
11:05 Shai : ok
11:06 Shai : stays strong abv 11892/ 31395 today
11:06 Shai : will look for sellers below it only
11:06 Shai : (10:23) Shai : 11893 supp for day(10:23) Shai : 31395 in BNF
11:06 Ashutosh : ok and if crosses above days high then can go long
11:06 Shai : yes
11:06 Ashutosh : got it thanks Chief
11:07 Shai : sometimes it is not a short but fair warning not to chase late longs post IB
11:07 Ashutosh : ok
11:07 Ashutosh : keep guiding this way
11:07 Ashutosh : helps a lot in learning
11:07 Shai : bottom line is all of market profile is the background/ context and today it is the 3 day composite
11:08 Ashutosh : why today is 3 days composit ?
11:08 Shai : lovely chart by MJ here – http://148.72.213.70/?symbol=NIFTY&startDate=27-05-2019&nDays=8&tpo=2&isComposite=1
11:08 Shai : same VA +/-
11:08 AN : Shai, when do we get C-ext confirmation, when d doesnt extend beyond it? or any other way?
11:09 Shai : so TF moves beyond the dat
11:09 Shai : day*
11:09 Shai : and higher value takes precendence
11:09 Suren : 11:08 Shai : lovely chart by MJ here – http://148.72.213.70/?symbol=NIFTY&startDate=27-05-2019&nDays=8&tpo=2&isComposite=1… which cred. to use
11:09 Ashutosh : high gone
11:09 Ashutosh : missed by few ticks
11:10 Suyog : guys, you can also look at weekly composite today..
11:10 Suyog : http://148.72.213.70/weekly/
11:10 Shai : Intra – BUy NF abv 11919 sl of 11892 tgt 11967. Buy abv**
11:10 Ashutosh : cool
11:10 Suyog : @Suren, you need to register separately for mplite
11:11 Uttam : (10:22) Uttam : few days are exception for that C failure & I feel today is one of them(10:23) Uttam : but yes D needs to confirm that by makign new highs …just in time
11:11 Shai : +1
11:11 Uttam : Spot needs to get above 11932-937
11:11 Uttam : not made new high still
11:13 Uttam : imp level this in spot
11:14 Uttam : it taken out trend day could get more confrimation
11:14 Ashutosh : iB VOL IS 21 lac good volume for a trend day ?
11:16 Sandip : Yes Uttam, Spot resisting NF
11:18 Uttam : @Ashutosh. expiry day today so we have vols in June also 🙂
11:20 Suyog : guys, even with June data vols look average esp comparing with past few days.. check the spot charts for this info
11:22 Ashutosh : ok got it Uttam
11:22 Suren : 11:10 Suyog : @Suren, you need to register separately for mplite… done, Thanks
11:22 Shubro : Uttam so may purple lines in 30 min?
11:23 Suyog : +1 Suren
11:23 TP : GM All.
11:23 Ravi : @Shai long call got active??
11:24 Shai : if not active for you take it abvove this only
11:24 Ravi : ok Shai
11:25 Deepak : 11900 CE and PE both have 65lakh combined OI. Is that keeping the spot closer to 11900?
11:25 Uttam : @Deepak lets which OI started to go down from here
11:26 Uttam : that will give an indication of any move coming today
11:26 Uttam : both arnd 32L for now
11:27 Psandeep : Do i need to sign up, looks like my vtrender id not working
11:27 Psandeep : http://148.72.213.70/login/?next=/%3Fsymbol%3DNIFTY%26startDate%3D27-05-2019%26nDays%3D8%26tpo%3D2%26isComposite%3D1
11:27 Deepak : true
11:27 Uttam : 11900ce getting green band here
11:27 Uttam : PSandeep you need to register seperately for MP LITe on that link
11:28 Sandip : There cud be a move back till 11890-880..to flush out longs..then head back up till 11950++…and finally head back down till 11925….just my expiry thoughts..
11:28 Thanika : +1 🙂
11:28 Uttam : just a one step process where you need to validate your mail account
11:28 Psandeep : oh, Thanks Uttam
11:29 Shai : Update – if your long got activated sctach here at 11915
11:30 Shai : coil here
11:42 Himanshu : Chief in Qaunts table – vwupb – indicated which Vwap
11:42 Sandip : that bar with 45 and 48 k reds was profit booking..cud be from the guys who bought early on
11:42 Sandip : in NF
11:43 Ashutosh : COT huge red
11:43 Himanshu : vwap – is current day- YVWAP – is previous day, VWLOW & VWUPB -pls
11:43 Uttam : vwap upper band
11:44 Uttam : and vwap lower band
11:45 Uttam : now vwap test coming?
11:47 Uttam : that 1.7L red on 30mins has a 1.5L green in Jun
11:48 Uttam : OI of 11900ce needs to start coming down
11:49 Sandip : right so this 1.7 lac guy could be getting out of current series and buying in the next..correct..roll over right?
11:49 Uttam : yes Sandip a long rollover
11:49 Sandip : Thx Uttam
11:52 Himanshu : uttam – MP lite chat link pasted here for composite is live chats
11:52 Himanshu : meaning will be able to see as it progress
11:53 Paras : rs
11:53 Uttam : yes Himanshu that is updated live
11:54 Himanshu : Wow – thats awesome – can we have for BNF compoite ?
11:54 Uttam : of course
11:54 Himanshu : Suyog – MJ – can help with ?
11:55 Suyog : yes Himanshu
11:55 Himanshu : just registered with link –
11:55 MJ : http://148.72.213.70/?symbol=BANKNIFTY&startDate=27-05-2019&nDays=8&tpo=2&isComposite=1
11:55 Uttam : try this for NF, TPO size little bigger so chart fits in one screen
11:55 Uttam : http://148.72.213.70/?symbol=NIFTY&startDate=27-05-2019&nDays=8&tpo=6&isComposite=1
11:55 Himanshu : Awesome – twosome
11:55 MJ : Himanshu in url just replace the instrument.
11:56 Suyog : can also check the /weekly link as i shared before.. this week is very well placed just abv prev week.. gives a nice context too
11:56 Uttam : for BNF http://148.72.213.70/?symbol=BANKNIFTY&startDate=27-05-2019&nDays=8&tpo=18&isComposite=1
11:56 Uttam : MB formed in NF
11:57 Uttam : NF June needs to get above & sustain
11:57 Himanshu : With this composite live charts – If I cant make living trading then – will have to go back to Samsung TV sales – Serioulsy
11:57 Uttam : 11912 in May was prev HVN too
11:58 Uttam : lol Himanshu….we will all do it together
11:58 Ashutosh : yeah seriously if couldnt learn trading here then have to go for tv sales
11:59 Himanshu : No – am serious may be I have to work on Psycology – Discipline – Risk management etc
11:59 Himanshu : in terms of Data – What more one can ask ?
12:00 Govind : Shai, if 11919 is crossed again, NF is a buy?
12:00 Himanshu : and Jit’s propritery – DT concept –
12:01 Anubhav null : greens r bak
12:01 Govind : DVAH is 11915 now…it was 11919 before
12:01 Himanshu : I like to Volunteer for Vtrender – TV ad – like Teleshopping way
12:01 Himanshu : Before Vtrneder chat room –
12:02 Himanshu : Mein High Risk _ low Profit Option Writer tha …
12:02 Himanshu : Meri chaddi uttar jatti thi – trading session mein
12:03 Himanshu : Aab mein – accha trader banne ki line mein jud gaya huin
12:03 Shubro : line mein lago himanshu pehle me tha
12:03 Himanshu : Achha bhai
12:03 Paras : sellers gtng dumped
12:03 Shubro : matlab high risk wala trader
12:03 Himanshu : Ok – same pinch
12:04 Paras : 15k guy in trouble
12:04 Himanshu : Am just visualising those advt – of protin shakes and weight loss guys in teleshopping
12:04 Uttam : take out 11932-937 spot guys
12:04 Uttam : NF ke kuch nahi hone wala tab tak
12:04 Himanshu : Let me stare at Nifty spot
12:05 Uttam : boom
12:05 Ashutosh : 30k red shit
12:05 Ashutosh : 23*
12:06 Uttam : only NF makes new highs rest not interest BNF & both spot
12:06 Shubro : spoilt it
12:06 Shubro : or not?
12:06 Uttam : comgin coming
12:07 Govind : Shai/Uttam, NF good to re-enter?
12:07 Shubro : 23 becomes 30k …..
12:08 Himanshu : 34k in BNF – Uttam is roll over at 31483
12:08 Uttam : nothing
12:08 Uttam : nothing in Jun
12:09 Ashutosh : 50k green]
12:10 Himanshu : Hmm
12:12 Hari : BNF vols sucks
12:12 Uttam : that 53k green is red in JUn
12:12 Uttam : sorry
12:12 Uttam : green in June also
12:13 Uttam : spot right there
12:13 Uttam : knocking 11932
12:13 Uttam : daya tod do darwaza 😉
12:13 Ashutosh : lol
12:14 Uttam : 11900pe OI at 36L now PCR going above 1
12:14 Shubro : SAY DISCO
12:14 Ashutosh : buyers absobed everything
12:14 Uttam : spot has 3 tpos there at 11930
12:15 Uttam : aur isike saath sixer 🙂
12:15 Uttam : NF completes full 80%
12:15 Uttam : 11937 is here
12:16 Uttam : 11850ce doubles from 43
12:16 Uttam : 86 now
12:17 Uttam : 11900ce writers could be forced to cover
12:17 Sandip : Nf shud break 11950
12:17 Uttam : Nifty Spot has poor hgihs at 11960 to repair
12:17 Shubro : booked 2 DT
12:18 Shubro : 11905 to 1942
12:18 Sandip : Yes Uttam, finally some covering in 11900 CE
12:18 Uttam : stayng above FA of 11935 we have small hurdle at that multi-day of 11965 else can do 12115
12:19 Himanshu : Shubro+1
12:21 Sandip : N1 Shubro
12:21 Uttam : congrats Shubro
12:22 Govind : Cheers Shubro
12:22 Ashutosh : GDFL is live
12:23 Govind : Full Budget likely in July 1st week! FinMin announcement
12:23 Uttam : BNF also does 80% in the 3day gaussian
12:24 Govind : Going for a strangle play
12:24 Uttam : 31351-31533
12:25 Uttam : (09:57) Uttam : Trend Day on expiry anyone 😉
12:26 Himanshu : Uttam – I said – am game
12:27 Himanshu : well cashed out at 450 -460 range ealier and now waiting for some reasonable entry
12:27 Govind : ICICIB is moving up fast…this may push spot NF/BNF
12:27 Sandip : I am expecting a 11950 + move also Uttam ..but not sure about trend…lets see what happens above 11960
12:27 Shai : Buy BNF again 31530 sl of 31440 tgt 31660
12:28 Uttam : (10:21) Uttam : so early VWAP test Anubhav?…vwap not tagged at all today
12:29 Uttam : (09:18) Uttam : yes June seems to have a IB of 1L
12:29 MJ : Algo guy is here
12:29 Govind : Uttam, tagging means price has to cross and go beyond/below vwap?
12:29 Uttam : so late this time Mihir
12:30 Shai : big guy smae place
12:30 Shai : 11938
12:30 Govind : 3L in June also
12:30 Shai : all rolls are long
12:30 Uttam : dPOC for May can move higher Shai?
12:30 Sandip : Maxx pain finally at 11900
12:30 Shai : they have chosen the zone – (08:54) Shai : The big guy is at 11950 and 11980- 11900 June F as we appoach the last day
12:30 Shai : mark it on your charts
12:31 MJ : +1 shai
12:31 MJ : earlier smaller rolls picked 11960 11990 zone too.
12:31 MJ : Small aka 1.5L guys.
12:32 Sandip : damnnn
12:32 Sandip : huge OI increase
12:32 MJ : Uttam notice no masking yet on this algo order.
12:33 Shai : what aboiut june?
12:33 Shai : june?- (12:32) Sandip : huge OI increase
12:33 Sandip : June I dont Track Shai
12:33 Sandip : Current series only
12:35 Govind : June is at 180000 total OI, up from 175k 30 mins ago
12:36 Govind : No, scratch that…Sorry. THat is cumulative OI
12:36 Hari : then it should appear in RED in May right 12:30 Shai : all rolls are long
12:36 Hari : why he is buying in both series
12:39 Ashutosh : i was also thinking the samw
12:39 Hari : anyone can clarify pls
12:39 Hari : or is he covering shorts in May and buying in June?
12:39 Sandip : Govind check for” OPen Interest”
12:39 Uttam : 2L red here
12:39 Uttam : masking started Mihir
12:39 MJ : Yes 🙂
12:39 MJ : https://vtrender.slack.com/archives/C0N9BFAF4/p1558252738014700
12:40 MJ : @Hari and @Ashutosh check this
12:40 MJ : Note by uttam.
12:40 Hari : is roll over on Thrus a rare event?
12:40 Hari : in NF
12:40 Uttam : normally that big player comes by Wednesday Hari but suppose he was keeping his cards close to his chest till now
12:40 MJ : Usually big rolls since last 10 months are at 1-3DTE
12:41 Ashutosh : Thanks MJ
12:41 Sandip : these 2 lac and 1 lac guy are again new
12:41 MJ : Max on wed.
12:41 Sandip : im gonna stay away and observe for a bit
12:41 Hari : this is a huge vol bar so far 5 lacs so far
12:41 Uttam : prev one also 4L
12:41 Uttam : before that too 4.3
12:42 Sandip : Dami it
12:42 MJ : 10L
12:42 Ashutosh : vols
12:42 Sandip : Gonna track double series from next month
12:42 MJ : has to be rolled boys. Check that slack link.
12:42 Uttam : another 2.5L
12:42 Himanshu : GFadd OI
12:42 Sijo : why price is not moving on such huge volumes?
12:43 Uttam : these are rolls Sijo
12:43 Uttam : and you have big vols on both sides
12:43 Uttam : expiry week be ready for these kind of OF action
12:43 Himanshu : after their books are settlled by 2.2.30 max
12:43 Uttam : will move away evetually in the new series from here
12:44 Himanshu : retail Buchering plan
12:44 Sandip : lol all OI increase in last 20 minutes
12:44 Uttam : eventually
12:44 Uttam : Jun has more OI now than May
12:44 Sandip : I dont get this? Shai
12:44 Shai : rollover day
12:45 Uttam : in June inspite of that 3L buyer COT increased just b7 90k
12:45 Uttam : in fact 4.75 is the big green there
12:45 Shai : there are 2 opp transactions at 11931 and 11938
12:45 Sandip : Uttam, can you check the June seies NF OI movement in last 20 mins
12:46 Shai : is pre-ararnged generally
12:46 Sijo : Last month I compared market depth for such huge volume. The price, bids and asks didn’t changed for such huge volume. I wonder how they do it
12:46 Shai : it’s done through an inter mediatory
12:46 Shai : clearing house
12:46 Sandip : Ok so big players are exchanging hands
12:47 Uttam : @Sandip it was 1522417 at 12:30
12:47 MJ : Iceberg order usually Shai?
12:47 Uttam : 1635772 now
12:47 Shai : no
12:47 Shai : this is a fixed hour for these trades
12:47 Shai : notice the big guy is always around 12
12:48 Uttam : GDFL acting funny today so may not be correct data Sandip
12:48 Uttam : what a day for live data to get messed up
12:48 Ashutosh : TD is working great
12:48 Ashutosh : 🙂
12:48 Uttam : I use that for spot & cash Ashutosh
12:49 Uttam : F&O GDFL has been stable from many years
12:49 Sandip : Thx Uttam and Shai
12:49 Ashutosh : okk
12:51 MJ : Yes Shai.
12:53 Sandip : normally I see big OI increases as traps on the monthly expiry day….but these are too many and too big to ignore
12:54 Sandip : some fishy stuff is on
12:55 Uttam : OI of 11900 ce now at 26.5L & 11900pe at 45L
12:55 Uttam : PCR from 1 sometime back nearing 2
12:55 Darshan Jaju : what it indicate ?
12:55 Uttam : 11900 spot is being made secure
12:56 Uttam : (11:25) Deepak : 11900 CE and PE both have 65lakh combined OI. Is that keeping the spot closer to 11900?(11:25) Uttam : @Deepak lets which OI started to go down from here(11:26) Uttam : that will give an indication of any move coming today
12:56 Uttam : @Darshan check this
12:58 Sandip : Well spotted Uttam, thats a very good thing to keep track of on expiry
12:58 Uttam : yes Sandip learnt a bit of this from you 🙂
12:58 Uttam : mornign 11850pe was being written
12:58 Hari : guess it is gonna be a cracker of settlement after 2 on upside
12:58 Uttam : Amen Hari
12:59 Hari : clean trend day in stocks leading the move, unless. some drama
12:59 Deepak : yes watching option chain comes in handy along with OF and MP
13:00 Himanshu : Poor BNF is at mercy of local punters
13:00 Hari : COT in both series hugely +ve
13:00 Sandip : I have a whole screen of live updating OI for 3-4 strike prices….and I derive the change in OI as well..very good info to see whats happenning
13:01 Uttam : +1 Sandip
13:02 Himanshu : Sandip – Any observation on BNF opion chain
13:02 Uttam : lets see if we have started getting some movement in 11950 strikes & then it will be the 12k one
13:02 Himanshu : r they securing 31500
13:03 Uttam : 11950ce has 21.8L OI and PE just 9.5L
13:03 Shai : Hold the BNF with new SL of 31414
13:04 Shai : oullback time
13:04 Sandip : mkt should not end below 11890…
13:04 Shai : they may relead near vwap
13:04 Himanshu : Chief – in it – can we add
13:04 Shai : can
13:08 Ravikiran : CAN CAN
13:08 Ravikiran : 11962
13:08 Ravikiran : ?
13:17 Anubhav : above 11962 it can tag 12000
13:18 Sandip : fells like it anubhav
13:19 Uttam : (12:17) Uttam : Nifty Spot has poor hgihs at 11960 to repair
13:19 Uttam : Spot getting there
13:19 Shai : BNF at 31590 . Book half here and now hold at 31530 the rest
13:19 Uttam : +1 Shai
13:23 Shai : Book the BNF fully at 31580
13:23 Anubhav : big reds in nf
13:23 Shai : will buy a dip
13:23 Govind : Thanks Shai
13:24 Govind : THat got me to 1DT
13:24 Anubhav : trying to defend 11950 writers
13:25 Shai : +1
13:25 Shai : 31700 ce a lottery for 3.15
13:25 Uttam : 11950pe OI increasing
13:25 Shai : can do in 2 parts with all risk
13:25 Shai : estimate is 31740 F from here with sl of 31450
13:26 Himanshu : Out at 587
13:26 Himanshu : Chief now for positional – whats the level for June series we can enter –
13:27 Himanshu : incase of some – Expiry mangement – can be brought down during day ..pls indicate
13:27 Shai : need to wait toll 3 pm for postnl
13:28 Shai : 31450 is supp 1 for next few days also
13:28 Suren : 13:25 Shai : 31700 ce a lottery for 3.15 .. CMP is 18
13:28 Uttam : time 3:15
13:28 Uttam : book then
13:28 Sandip : i have very low quantity of 11900 ce at 41
13:29 Sandip : hopefully it goes to 84….my sl is 15 xD….so its mostly hero or zero at this point xD
13:30 Uttam : Q is are we getting the afternoon dip or no 😉
13:30 Uttam : 11850ce knocking on 3 figures
13:30 Uttam : can it do it
13:30 Uttam : yes it does 🙂
13:31 Uttam : A) Nifty needs to sustain above 11889-897 for a move higher to 11920 / 11932-937 / 11960-969
13:31 Uttam : 11959.75 high so far
13:32 Sandip : cmmmon
13:32 Uttam : 11950ce OI building up
13:33 Uttam : some new shorts in it?
13:33 Sandip : slightly Uttam
13:33 Uttam : could be very harmful
13:33 Uttam : sorry not that much
13:33 Uttam : got confused with vol & OI
13:33 Uttam : vol was 32
13:33 Psandeep : Posting for a friend..come back…. Not great day as twice SL hit but still not bad.
13:33 Uttam : 22L & 12L 950 combo OI now
13:33 Psandeep : https://vtrender.slack.com/archives/C0F2VRTPW/p1559203424000300
13:34 Psandeep : Posting for a friend..come back…. Not great day as twice SL hit but still not bad. https://vtrender.slack.com/archives/C0F2VRTPW/p1559203424000300
13:34 Sandip : there have been shorters in 11950 PE..but they are 1/3 of 11900 Pe ..so not as strong
13:34 Govind : Nice one Sandeep! COngats
13:34 Sandip : right now 11900 is a strong base
13:35 Uttam : yes that 11950ce needs to sustain above 20
13:35 Uttam : got some big vols there
13:35 Sandip : Uttam, spike in 11900 CE? till 59?
13:36 Sandip : in this day high break
13:36 Himanshu : 331500 – max pain and PCR 1.13.1
13:37 Himanshu : today built up in 31500pE 770K – think exp at 31500 –
13:37 Uttam : took support at 2 day vwap making a low of 35,
13:37 Uttam : 68-69 coming in that 11900ce looks like Sandip
13:37 Govind : That 31700CE has gone up 80%
13:37 Uttam : abv that 84
13:37 Sandip : yep im more hope full of an 80 🙂
13:37 Uttam : Spot repairing that 11960 poor highs
13:38 Sandip : that is required to crush….11950 PE down to 0..we will need a bigger move upwards..
13:38 Uttam : 11960 NF was a hvn
13:39 Sandip : yes thats a problem 🙁
13:39 Uttam : can expect a stall here for that afternoon dip
13:39 Uttam : but if this is taken out we may have a dip less trend day 😉
13:39 Sandip : ideally the dip shud have happenned before 1.30
13:39 Uttam : C) Above 11970, Nifty can probe higher to 12005 & 12041-50
13:39 Uttam : lets get above 11970
13:40 Himanshu : Ok let me try my way – ( hahah)
13:40 Himanshu : if I buy one lot here – will cross
13:40 Himanshu : if i buy more .. for sure will come down
13:41 Sandip : lol
13:41 Amit : haha
13:43 Himanshu : Bhai – retail hain na ?
13:43 Himanshu : to itna nasseb hai, Jyada try kiya to -mar denge
13:44 Himanshu : 50 – 100 Khokha ke niche sub retail hai/
13:45 Himanshu : Gyan hai to tikeh rahenge – nahi to gaan wapas
13:45 Himanshu : Gaon – Village
13:46 Sandip : It feels like there shud have been a dip..but all my indicators pointing to a strong upward move once atleast
13:47 Shubro : yeah Sandip same here
13:47 Himanshu : I am telling you – have bought one lot Nf – F
13:47 Himanshu : bindass now
13:47 Shubro : this will only go up that last dip should have gone further but no
13:47 Sandip : haha Himanshu
13:49 Uttam : both 11950ce/pe at 18
13:49 Himanshu : Am now only waiting for Navjyot Siddhu to retire from politics announcement and action –
13:49 Sandip : lol
13:49 Sandip : Thooko taali xD
13:50 Sandip : un beliaveble Navjot Siddhu!
13:50 Himanshu : That MC – BC
13:50 Himanshu : He is being retired from – Sony TV and Kapil Sharma Show now
13:50 Himanshu : as people have written to unsunscribe channel if not removed
13:51 Anubhav : high done for the day shai?
13:51 Shubro : lots of reds
13:51 Shubro : ?
13:51 Anubhav : yesh
13:51 Anubhav : in last 3 candles
13:51 Uttam : BNF gives a lower low
13:53 Himanshu : Rahul Aur Congressi Haar Ke Bhi Khush –Modi अवधी | राहुल और कांग्रेसी हार के भी खुश –मोदी अवधि
13:53 Himanshu : Please go thru – this tonight post market hours – it is part of effective trading – Humor
13:54 Himanshu : is on Youtube – on all lost leaders – from Shartugan Sinha – to Chandra babu to Siddhu etc
13:56 Himanshu : Dip in BNF started at 1.47 pm
13:56 Uttam : NF June also makes lower low
13:57 Himanshu : after double kiss to 31640 – Gap filled
13:57 Anubhav : 11950 call crashed
13:57 Uttam : 11950pe OI up to 16L now
13:57 Uttam : ce OI still 22.8
13:58 Anubhav : so 1 more bounce u feel?
13:58 Uttam : no bounce, close at hgihs
13:58 Uttam : but post 2:15
13:58 Uttam : this bar low needs to hold
13:58 Uttam : and then make new highs
13:59 Anubhav : ok
13:59 Uttam : 15 more mins so can still make lower lows here
13:59 Uttam : POC shifting lower on 30min s
14:02 Anubhav : so 1 can buy this dip with ibh as stoploss?
14:03 Uttam : May NF makes lower low now
14:03 Uttam : buy after this period gets completed
14:04 Uttam : 11935-937 is the FA & VAH of composite
14:04 Himanshu : so this means – I not entitled for one lot also – at high
14:04 Himanshu : Beta sambhal jao
14:04 Uttam : acceptance in that could give a 80% move down
14:05 Uttam : Spot also makes lower low
14:05 Uttam : so the dip is here
14:06 Uttam : 11950ce writers defending?
14:08 Sandip : More OI needs to come in at 11950 CE
14:08 Uttam : 6 more mins
14:12 Sandip : nice
14:14 Sandip : and ..the dip ends here
14:14 Uttam : now to make new highs
14:14 Shubro : take it away Uttam!!!
14:15 Anubhav : bravo!
14:17 Govind : +1 Uttam
14:18 Uttam : new hgihs yet to come buys
14:18 Uttam : guys
14:18 Uttam : 11950ce/pe 24l/16.5l
14:19 Uttam : those writers need to be taken out
14:19 Sandip : options held well during the small dip in NF..this should give atleast 11980
14:19 Uttam : 11970 spot if conquered we can close above 12k spot
14:20 Uttam : poor highs in NF & BNF and spot Nifty also
14:23 Uttam : abki baar…. 😉
14:24 Sandip : nahheeeee
14:26 Shubro : GPGT
14:27 Anubhav : tough fight
14:27 Shubro : settlement moves Shai?
14:30 Shubro : what drama
14:30 Govind : Reliance is making a puch
14:30 Shubro : K period is a total kamina period
14:30 Govind : push
14:30 Sandip : spot and options held this fall as well…
14:30 Shubro : chal puttar
14:31 Shubro : now now
14:31 Sandip : futures needs to push now
14:31 Uttam : Spot to make new highs first?
14:32 Shubro : strong candle
14:32 Shubro : no wind please
14:33 Govind : spot is so close to DH
14:34 Sandip : wahts spots day high?
14:34 Uttam : yes get that above 11970 Govind 🙂
14:34 Shubro : bomb blast coming?
14:34 Govind : Tell HImnshu to short one lot Uttam
14:34 Uttam : 11968.55
14:34 Govind : Himanshu*
14:34 Shubro : i am blowing behind it Itam
14:34 Sandip : thx uttam
14:34 Uttam : spot add one more TPO at top
14:35 Anubhav : chant modi modi modi
14:35 Anubhav : lol
14:35 Uttam : 14:45 extension handle time looks like today
14:35 Uttam : 11950ce writers not relenting
14:36 Uttam : some power they got
14:36 Anubhav : so exp at 11950 then and tmorrow upmove?
14:36 Sandip : neither are 950 Pe writers..we cud see a close between 925-950 if NF dosent pump it up
14:37 Uttam : yes Sandip but lot of time left so looks like one side will give away
14:37 Sandip : True
14:38 Govind : HIgh Drama Shubro
14:39 Shubro : sigh Govind!
14:39 Shubro : trying to save my energy for the move GOvind
14:39 Govind : Mota bhai is moving the needle now in spot
14:39 Uttam : 5 more mins
14:39 Shubro : yes motabhai
14:39 Sandip : Govind Mota up or down?
14:40 Govind : Up Sandip
14:40 Govind : 2%
14:41 Shubro : 3 more min
14:41 Ravi : Uttam are you going to repair NF poor Highs today?
14:41 Uttam : not in my hands Ravi 🙂
14:42 Ravi : oh 🙂
14:42 Shubro : not looking good BNF down
14:42 Uttam : yes BNF looks has run out of fuel today
14:43 Uttam : 3 lower highs in it last 3 30min bars
14:44 Sandip : guys where is bnf maxx pain?
14:44 Uttam : K was an insdie bar in both
14:44 Anubhav : vwap 31483 last hope
14:44 Shai : one time frame up stopped in both
14:45 Shai : expiry taking over
14:45 Shai : 41475 last supp in BNF
14:45 Shai : 31475
14:48 Govind : Gone
14:48 Anubhav : ouch
14:48 Uttam : 11915 coming?
14:49 Shai : lomg crushed
14:49 Sandip : out at 8 pts loss in 11900 CE
14:49 Shai : back down to 31395 supp
14:49 Uttam : exited that 11850ce remaining at 73
14:49 Uttam : first vwap tag of the day
14:51 Anubhav : small rb in nf
14:53 Natarajan : any 3pm lottery call 🙂
14:54 Sandip : them Option writers for 11950 CE just assed 2 lac arnd in the dip
14:54 Shubro : 3:05 move…what is it gonna be….hmm
14:55 Sandip : added *
14:55 Shai : BNF 31200 put a lottery
14:56 Shai : 31300 better
14:56 Shai : change of auction
14:56 Shai : transition happened
14:56 Shai : 31250 F can come
14:59 Sandip : wat swings
14:59 Shai : STOPPED
14:59 Shai : negated
15:00 Govind : Crazy Thursday
15:00 Anubhav : nice moves
15:01 Anubhav : buyers stepped in
15:01 Shai : one fimal nail would gave come below 31393
15:01 Sandip : these arent buyers govind..they are profit bookers and short coverers
15:02 Govind : headed the other way now Shai?
15:02 Psandeep : what a day… awesome expiry
15:02 Psandeep : Cheers guys
15:02 Psandeep : bye
15:03 Shai : No too late avoid now
15:03 Shai : tape is bullish for 12300 now in june – july
15:04 Shai : sl is 11770 for that JUne view
15:04 Shubro : BC
15:06 Sandip : phew
15:06 Sandip : made back those 8 points in same CE
15:07 Govind : THanks Shai, any positional views in BNF?
15:08 Shai : not in BNF
15:08 Govind : Ok thanks
15:09 Sandip : I doubt those 6-7 lac guys will let us go anywhere…they should keep covering and booking in this zone to maintain it between 925-950
15:11 Hari : what is the TF Sandip
15:11 Seema : Shai…. can we buy NIFTY 12000CE of JUNE at current price for tommorow?
15:12 Seema : it is nr. 62-63
15:12 MJ : Shai can you update the RO point at close for both?
15:13 Sandip : Hari I mean todays big numbers that came in
15:14 Shai : Juky better but can do june also
15:14 Shai : view os 30 days out
15:15 Himanshu : Chief – View for BNF
15:15 Himanshu : for carry
15:15 Amit : what a expiry .. from 1.3 dt to -0.3to 0.2 dt
15:16 Shai : No strong view in BNF – will wait out tom closing
15:17 Himanshu : ok
15:17 Himanshu : but clear on NF F
15:18 Uttam : so that 3day bell is now a 4 day composite as Shai mentioned yesterday at close that we may stay here on expiry dat
15:18 Jitender : bye all
15:19 Uttam : new series & new month from Monday so lets see what we have in store
15:19 Uttam : cya Jit
15:19 Jitender : 11x today man…wat happens happens fr good…cud focus more 😉
15:19 Jitender : tc
15:20 Uttam : super Jit 🙂 cheers so triple khambha on 😉
15:20 Jitender : def
15:20 Uttam : keep rocking
15:20 Jitender : _/\_
15:21 Anubhav : gr8 going
15:21 Govind : Congo Jit!!
15:21 Anubhav : apan ne bhi aaj thoda chillar kamaya
15:22 Sandip : Missed tagging..11890 by 10 pts..but the rest seems to be happenning 🙂 (11:28) Sandip : There cud be a move back till 11890-880..to flush out longs..then head back up till 11950++…and finally head back down till 11925….just my expiry thoughts..
15:22 Himanshu : we can carry now with SL of
15:22 Sandip : expected a liitle more jump in nf ..but naa milaa 🙁
15:22 Thanika : +1 Jit!
15:23 Sandip : Nice one Jitender
15:23 Himanshu : Jit + 11x
15:23 Himanshu : congrates
15:25 Shai : Congrats Jit. Nice one
15:26 Shai : expiry at big guy’s number
15:26 Shai : Bye all
15:26 Shai : Catch up tom
15:26 Deepak : bye all
15:26 Sandip : bye Shai, All
15:26 Amit : bye all
15:26 Govind : Wow, that is amazing…big guy controlling this
15:26 Govind : Bye all
15:27 Uttam : thanks All 🙂 have a lovely evening
15:27 MJ : Bye everyone cheers!
15:30 Himanshu : Bye all


10:20 Hari : Shai, please review ICICIprulife posnls
10:28 Jatin : shai,chk yesbk when u have time
10:33 Shai : yes is coming out of asset management?
10:37 Shai : icici pru looking good
10:37 Shai : enough vol foir 417 restest
10:38 Shai : yes will continue weak below 175
10:38 Shai : my strike zone for yes long term remains 96
10:53 Jatin : thanks
11:02 Hari : Uttam, Tamo long here?
11:35 Uttam : just checking the charts Hari, give me 5 mins
11:36 Hari : Shai, can you pls review Tata coffee, is that long liquidation there?
11:37 Uttam : forming a ‘b’ on monthly looks like Tamo Hari
11:37 Uttam : this week DD down
11:37 Uttam : overlapping value from last 3 weeks
11:37 Uttam : could give a move on Monday, will keep you posted
11:38 Hari : ok thank you, acc. to my classical TA, can spike up 20-25%
11:38 Hari : good to exchange notes 🙂
11:39 Uttam : then surely we need to get a move above the POC of the monthly ‘b’ it is forming in May
11:39 Uttam : always good to have any interaction with you Hari 🙂
11:39 Hari : the feelings are mutual 🙂
11:40 Hari : what is the monthly POC for it?
11:40 Uttam : 180
11:40 Uttam : needs to give a move away from there on Monday
11:40 Uttam : but lets see how it closes tom
11:47 Hari : Uttam, under which channel in slack Suyog posting Vix ranges for settlement?
11:47 Uttam : hypotracker
11:47 Hari : Thanks man
11:48 Uttam : 🙂 welcome