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Date and Time: January 01, 2016 09:03:43
[09:00] r m : Good Morning folks!
[09:00] r m : NF Value Area 7920-7926-7946 VWAP 7937
[09:00] r m : BNF Value Area 16972-16984-17000 VWAP 16986
[09:01] r m : Values are from NT charts and may differ from values in the room
[09:01] R Goel : hello friends
[09:01] R Goel : wish you all a very happy new year
[09:01] R Goel : GM RM
[09:01] R Goel : HNY to you 🙂
[09:01] Jitender : Gm Rm, folks:-)
[09:01] Rahul P : gm
[09:02] Rahul P : wish u all a happy new year
[09:02] r m : Hi RG, Jitender, Happy New Year 🙂
[09:02] Jitender : Wishing all a profitable & prosperous New Year !!
[09:02] r m : https://files.slack.com/files-pri/T0F2YRXQT-F0HHQR5FG/nifty16janfut.jpg
[09:02] r m : https://files.slack.com/files-pri/T0F2YRXQT-F0HHQRAAJ/banknifty16janfut.jpg
[09:06] RK : GM RM and all
[09:06] RK : Wish you all a great New year!
[09:06] r m : Hi RK
[09:06] r m : Thanks and wishing you the same
[09:06] RK : thanks
[09:07] RK : seems Algos were busy in last 30 mins yday closing longs 🙂
[09:07] Abhishek : GM everyone and wish u all a very Happy n a prosperous new year
[09:09] Tejpreet : GM All.
[09:10] Tejpreet : Wish everyone a fantastic and profitable New Year !
[09:10] r m : @RK, FII closed more shorts, Clients close more shorts (Index Futures) http://screencast.com/t/O1UKoYyj8
[09:10] r m : oops, clients closed more longs
[09:11] r m : however it is much more complex then that with index CE, PE and Stock Futures also being cooked in that Khichdi 😀
[09:11] RK : yeah I know 🙂
[09:12] r m : but net OI wise both Clients and FII are net short in CE now
[09:13] Sharad : GM all
[09:13] RK : in a day or two, clarity would emerge in OI
[09:13] Sharad : Happy New Year
[09:14] Rahul P : rm, any idea why jan futures was at discount to dec futures ??? even spot was trading higher
[09:14] r m : @Rahul, no idea
[09:17] r m : This Nifty spot chart fused with Future volumes may come in handy in initial week of Jan series
[09:17] r m : http://screencast.com/t/vY7fXkM4gb
[09:39] Sandeep : how r volumes today
[09:42] Ashish : GM all
[09:42] Ashish : Happy new year to all of you 🙂
[09:43] r m : Happy New Year Ashish 🙂
[09:43] Rahul P : attendance is poor today 🙂
[09:44] Ashish : RM, excess in new year in NF and BNF
[09:48] r m : NF is still in previous day’s range
[09:48] r m : @Rahul, guess most are busy in fighting hangover 🙂
[09:51] Rahul P : lol
[09:51] Rahul P : volume on nf seems decent today, right RM ??
[09:53] r m : yes Rahul, but that is because average of a new series is always low, only last couple of days NF JAN had good volumes, so even in comparison with 5 day average, this whole week will look good
[09:55] Rahul P : ok
[10:13] Chandramouli : Happy New Year all 🙂
[10:27] Jitender : Rm..opening is OAIR
[10:30] r m : yes
[10:32] Jitender : n wat typesof opening can becum a trend day
[10:36] Rahul P : OD, ORR
[10:36] Vikkas : Happy New Year all..!
[10:41] Jitender : tx Rahul, Rm
[10:43] Jitender : @Rahul/Rm…for a trend day..is a small IB a prerequisite & if yes wat should be the IB size to qualify fr the same
[10:45] Rahul P : no
[10:46] Jitender : k…tx
[10:48] r m : NF is in yesterday’s range and bnf is able to trade above vwap, so prospects of trend day don’t look bright
[10:49] Rahul P : expecting an inside day today…on low volumes
[10:49] Rahul P : monday onwards , the real game
[10:49] Jitender : tx guys
[10:49] r m : yes, today institutional traders will be away, real money should be back on Monday
[10:50] r m : let mice play while … 🙂
[10:55] r m : looks like mice playing with fire 😀
[10:56] Rahul P : rm, plese check if the FA from 3 dec is breached ….
[10:57] r m : ok
[10:58] r m : 3rd DEC high was 7986 for Jan Fut
[10:58] Rahul P : ok, thanks
[11:01] r m : 3rd MP for NF JAN https://files.slack.com/files-pri/T0F2YRXQT-F0HJ3GG0N/nifty16janfut.jpg
[11:03] r m : 29th high touched – https://files.slack.com/files-pri/T0F2YRXQT-F0HJ41ZME/nifty16janfut__30_min___01_01_2016.jpg
[11:10] r m : BNF fully went back to the lows of b shaped profile of 24th DEC https://files.slack.com/files-pri/T0F2YRXQT-F0HJ3DDDY/banknifty16janfut.jpg
[11:11] Varun : happy new year room
[11:11] Varun : have a great year
[11:11] Varun : loads of profits
[11:12] r m : Thanks Varun, Happy New Year!
[12:02] Tejpreet : Nothing much happening , i was thinking might have missed some action
[12:03] Tejpreet : RM what would be a good neutral closing today for big boys to take over .
[12:04] Tejpreet : 7900-10 range ?
[12:06] r m : @Tejpreet, that goes to show that occassionaly you can take your own half day 🙂
[12:08] Tejpreet : Yep 🙂
[12:09] r m : seems to be forming a nice balance here for last 4 days – https://files.slack.com/files-pri/T0F2YRXQT-F0HJ381JM/nifty16janfut.jpg
[12:11] r m : but BNF has returned from balance and that is supposed to be leader https://files.slack.com/files-pri/T0F2YRXQT-F0HJ12PNX/bnf.jpg
[12:11] Tejpreet : Profile is indeed balanced for he next move !
[12:12] Tejpreet : BN is a no panga entity without guidance from Shai.
[12:18] Kamakshya : whats the vix now
[12:18] Kamakshya : rm
[12:19] Tejpreet : 14.07
[12:24] Jitender : 7900pe OI 25.23lacsup by 5.18lacs
[12:24] Jitender : 7900 ce OI 18.10lacs up by 1.77lacs
[12:36] r m : This Heckyll sounds like Dr Jeckyll to me 🙂
[12:36] r m : http://screencast.com/t/aU3hAcmP
[12:44] r m : looks like Tejpreet has shorted and leaving for Movie 🙂
[12:45] Tejpreet : RM ji came back at 5 am in the morning ,,,no movies but yes short I am 🙂
[12:48] Ashish : What price you looking @ Tej?
[12:49] Tejpreet : Ashish ID will boook out at closing
[12:49] Tejpreet : positional 7760
[12:50] Ashish : Thanks Tej 🙂
[12:50] Tejpreet : welcome
[12:57] Shanmugasubramanian : timeframe Tej ? for positional 7760
[12:58] Tejpreet : That Shai will tell 🙂
[12:58] Shanmugasubramanian : k tnks
[12:59] Tejpreet : But it is a very risky trade as charts are still not indicating a sell.
[12:59] Varun : hw did u reach to 7760 ?
[12:59] Varun : serious #
[13:01] Tejpreet : 7760 is POC of the previous balance from which we broke out for the rally.
[13:02] Varun : cool
[13:04] Tejpreet : But Monday can also punish to many bears lurking in the mkt …so need to be quick in exit also 🙂
[13:04] Tejpreet : http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/markets/stocks/news/happy-new-year-sensex-may-rally-up-to-35000-in-16-etmarkets-poll/articleshow/50402983.cms
[13:36] Abhishek : Nifty into premium of 17-18 points
[13:37] r m : 8K CE climbing faster then NF
[13:45] Rahul P : 10:56 Rahul P: rm, plese check if the FA from 3 dec is breached ….
[13:45] Rahul P : 10:58 r m: 3rd DEC high was 7986 for Jan Fut
[13:46] r m : https://files.slack.com/files-pri/T0F2YRXQT-F0HJ4CY1M/nfjan.jpg
[13:46] r m : 7 points to go 🙂
[13:47] Rahul P : @Tej , you there ??
[13:47] Tejpreet : Yep
[13:47] r m : I have merged the intermediate profiles to bring 3rd dec nearer 🙂
[13:48] Rahul P : return back to day balance will not be good from here…bulls have made their task more difficult…it seems
[13:48] Rahul P : @ tej, adding shorts ??
[13:49] Tejpreet : Rahul do not rely too much on profile today
[13:49] Tejpreet : no covered puts lost 12 points made 6 in calls
[13:49] Tejpreet : so -6 down
[13:49] Rahul P : ok
[13:51] r m : after a lot of heehaw spot seems to have take out HVN at 7952 this time
[13:51] Tejpreet : even yesterday spot high was around 7955 guess
[13:51] Rahul P : bnf on rocket mode
[13:52] Rahul P : kya singles banaya hain
[13:52] Jitender : rm…does it qualify fr a tend day…if not why?
[13:53] r m : Spot – https://files.slack.com/files-pri/T0F2YRXQT-F0HJ4EGUX/ns.jpg
[13:54] r m : @Jitender, classical definition of trend day is each half an hour bar is forming HH and HL
[13:54] Jitender : oh..k..tx
[13:58] r m : today it first auctioned up and down open price (confusing me into calling it an open auction!) then there were many 30 minute bars with LL http://screencast.com/t/BeI2YT2JbrSz
[13:59] r m : finally it showed its tongue (not seen in charts) and ran away 😀
[13:59] Jitender : 🙂
[14:01] Tejpreet : Looks like all shorts being removed from the system 😉
[14:01] r m : 3rd dec covered
[14:02] Rahul P : us mrkt is closed today ???
[14:02] Tejpreet : yes
[14:03] Rahul P : looks like its only india whose operatig today
[14:03] Rahul P : rest all are in hangover mode
[14:04] Tejpreet : Yes India operating with the operators.
[14:04] r m : moving back into earlier congestion near 8K?
[14:05] Rahul P : donno what dii r thinkinh…they want to five fiis a fertile ground to book posns ???
[14:05] r m : nse guys are free to play around today 🙂
[14:05] Rahul P : *give fiis
[14:07] r m : FIIs were net buyer in cash yesterday after a long time
[14:09] Jitender : heckyl turned out b him only:-)
[14:10] r m : 🙂
[14:11] Varun : rm can u post the balance which was developing in nf
[14:11] Varun : composite
[14:11] r m : @Varun, last 3-4 days?
[14:12] r m : Heckyl bhai – http://screencast.com/t/fdZtXlaHxvi
[14:12] Varun : the dimple fill which were dicussing
[14:12] Varun : around 50 point balnce
[14:14] r m : https://files.slack.com/files-pri/T0F2YRXQT-F0HJ5NN3G/nf.jpg
[14:15] Tejpreet : Varun would you give importance to profle on day lke today ?
[14:15] r m : today also merged https://files.slack.com/files-pri/T0F2YRXQT-F0HJ5Q2UW/nfjan2.jpg
[14:17] Varun : this is soluid move if we stay abv 65 today
[14:17] Varun : if 65 goes, false move
[14:18] Varun : every price printed shld be respected
[14:18] Varun : as i am unbale to logon to slack from here will try from phone
[14:19] RK : Shai was expecting clean 700 points break out in BNF above 16900
[14:20] Tejpreet : thanks varun
[14:20] RK : today’s breakout looks like good one compared to prev two breakouts above 17000
[14:21] Varun : rm cant see figures on phone
[14:21] Varun : jan high of balance
[14:21] Varun : anyone
[14:21] Varun : ur 2.14 image
[14:21] r m : http://screencast.com/t/k2kgycer
[14:22] Varun : 7915/65
[14:22] Varun : so 65 is the most imp pivot now
[14:22] Rahul P : ideally , the FA should have held on even in this false move….since it was taken down, sentiment is bullish..unless we return back to balance today
[14:31] r m : Nifty spot has almost covered the previous balance with high at 7975 http://screencast.com/t/igy8wo3lj
[14:31] Varun : for last one hour my trade would be shpprt at current with stop loss 8002
[14:32] RK : Ashish,Tej Why Relcap is like Hanuman with fire on tail?
[14:33] r m : lol
[14:33] Varun : chk bnf profile
[14:33] Varun : lulz shape
[14:33] Jitender : tx Varun
[14:33] Ashish : lol
[14:33] Tejpreet : Sorry ashish no idea on relcap.
[14:34] Ashish : could be the buying climax in it
[14:34] r m : BNF – only clear thing is yesterday’s balance 🙂 http://screencast.com/t/4EmG6oN9GJ
[14:36] RK : preoblem with Relcap is after such move, it will grind like hell
[14:38] RK : Varun Monday morning going to be intresting 🙂
[14:39] Varun : atleast i have soemthing for a plan now
[14:39] Varun : was clueless
[14:39] RK : accept or reject by the ones who left for vocation 🙂
[14:39] RK : vacation
[14:39] RK : yes..this move leaves options for better planning..grind and kissing levels here and there bust wallets 🙂
[14:43] r m : “The Profile” http://screencast.com/t/CnKiEtN6RI
[14:43] r m : 🙂
[14:54] Tejpreet : Got that -6 points back net zero …..rm should have heeded your avice and taken day off 🙂
[14:58] r m : lol
[14:59] r m : but i was not expecting a breakout!
[15:00] RK : if we turn bullish Monday, keep a track with Maruti..200-300 move pending..
[15:00] Tejpreet : same here and brain was too foggy to trade it
[15:01] Rahul P : should have been a quite day today…this upmove was not expected…especially in low volume trade today
[15:06] Varun : book 50 5 at 73
[15:06] Varun : 50 %
[15:15] Rahul P : varun, monday will be crucuial right ??? either accpetance of bullish bias or rejction ….and this will be for a longer term approach, not just intra day
[15:16] Varun : yes
[15:17] r m : guys please keep watch on spot vwap (too far right now) – it give plenty of pain followed by 200 points or more 🙂 http://screencast.com/t/vY7fXkM4gb
[15:18] Varun : is mrkt interested in doing my trgt or i will have to scratch at breakeven
[15:18] Varun : 12 mins
[15:19] Varun : very interesting dvlpmnt
[15:19] Varun : poc hsifts up
[15:19] Varun : shifts
[15:19] r m : yes
[15:20] RK : Varun today’s BNF price action says some steam left still before reversal
[15:20] Varun : poc shifts up in bnf
[15:20] Varun : and price comes down
[15:20] Varun : we cld d0 904 again on monday
[15:20] RK : with such price action either it should balance or move up..but break down chances are les..lets see
[15:20] Varun : and rotate like hell in this gadda
[15:21] Varun : gadda = hole #punjabi
[15:22] Tejpreet : No more rotation .. need a ride now on my straddles 🙂
[15:22] Varun : this l period in both nf anbd bnf
[15:22] Varun : will decide where we go
[15:22] Varun : L
[15:23] Varun : Same time someone enterred
[15:23] Varun : will know his intentions in coming days
[15:23] Varun : lets scratch 50 5 now
[15:23] Varun : 50 5
[15:23] Varun : 50 %
[15:24] Rahul P : also we need to know how strong he is bafore institutions
[15:24] Rahul P : *before
[15:24] Varun : hw do u know he’s not an institution
[15:24] Varun : no one needs to come to office to trade
[15:24] Varun : woke up at 1
[15:24] Varun : mite have just pressed the trigger
[15:24] Varun : and went to sleep again
[15:24] Varun : 😉
[15:25] Rahul P : not sure…i am assuming instituions are in hangover mood
[15:25] Varun : consensus on street is no insti will do anything today
[15:25] Varun : then we shld nt get an fii figures in evening
[15:25] Rahul P : and they just did the opposite ??
[15:25] Varun : 0
[15:26] Chandramouli : lol Varun 🙂
[15:26] r m : normally institutions have board meeting and all to decide that is why people think they won’t act on holidays 🙂
[15:26] Rahul P : check nf OI…hardly any change considering first day of series
[15:26] Varun : thr is a trader on twitter
[15:26] Varun : however small or big
[15:26] Varun : in australia
[15:27] RK : no time for meeting and all in this business..just a call and say”fire” “dump” game over 🙂
[15:27] Rahul P : this may be old business
[15:27] Varun : he was holidaying in fiji
[15:27] Varun : and i read his trades on 30th decemeber
[15:27] Varun : assena wealth sort of handle
[15:28] Tejpreet : Even Shai is on holidays …could be Shai working in that L period 😉
[15:28] Varun : 🙂
[15:28] r m : @RK, only if it is a maverick fund with small number of customres, bigger funds have “CYA” plans cast in stone which take some time making 😀
[15:28] RK : “)
[15:28] RK : 🙂
[15:28] Varun : hw r the vol @rm
[15:28] Varun : comparitive
[15:28] Varun : good days of nf
[15:29] Rahul P : varun, see OI in nf…hardly any change…..makes me feel lot of old business in play today
[15:29] Varun : 5.8 million
[15:29] RK : just half Varun
[15:29] Tejpreet : jst half
[15:29] RK : 1.2 is decent
[15:29] Varun : ya trend days have 10 miliion ++
[15:29] r m : @Varun, comparison with past Jan volumes are just average so need to compare with past DEC volumes
[15:29] Varun : so bearss till have a chance
[15:29] Varun : still
[15:29] Varun : break 65 on monday and then 35
[15:29] Varun : else bulls will hammer
[15:30] Jitender : bye all
[15:30] RK : either doors shut for bears or bears will make a killing..this just cant go on like this 🙂
[15:30] r m : lol
[15:30] r m : Thanks and bye folks, have a great weekend 🙂
[15:30] RK : bye all..continue the party 🙂
[15:30] Tejpreet : Bye ALL and a round of applause for RM for conducting the show
[15:31] r m : I think the bulls have it, bulls have it (speaker’s choice) 😀
[15:31] RK : Yes..clap clap
[15:31] Chandramouli : Bye all
[15:31] r m : Thanks guys 🙂
[15:31] RK : RM is the much relieved guy than a bear or bull today 🙂
[15:31] Tejpreet : haha RK
[15:32] r m : yeah, pig has won this time RK 😀
[15:32] RK : nope RM..not about trading..about Shai returns and you get back to so called lazy mode 🙂
[15:33] r m : yeah, slack servers will also rest easy relieved of that spate of charts 🙂
[15:33] RK : yes..bye 🙂
[15:33] Porus : bye all