OrderFlow charts and Notes 06/10/15

Today’s NF and BNF charts and Notes from the Trading room . ( this content available only for trading room members)

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Room Name: Vtrender
Date and Time: October 06, 2015 09:03:39

[09:11] Shai : (09:11) Shai :We are facing an issue with the Market Delta chart setup which has gone offline preventing charts from loading up. Please stand by till we get an update

[09:23] Shai : (09:22) Shai :Hold the Nifty 8000 pe with revised Sl of 75 on day- will update

[10:02] Shai : (10:01) Shai : we trail at 17595 the BNF Future near cost

[10:22] Shai : (10:16) r m:http://screencast.com/t/nZCzb2Mt2xSW

[10:36] Shai : (10:36) Shai :exit the 8000 pe at 95 now

[11:09] Shai : (11:07) r m:vwap attacks are getting frequent http://screencast.com/t/0ewDe8stV

[11:09] Shai : (11:04) Shai :Positional longs can be taken in NF above 8160 for a tgt of 8260 and sl of 8105 this week

[12:24] Shai : (12:16) r m:http://screencast.com/t/TDI0tLLM

[12:54] Shai : (12:51) r m:at least buyers are there at lows πŸ™‚ http://screencast.com/t/TvyiUEaeTj

[13:34] Shai : (13:34) Shai :STBT trade : Sell NF 8122 sl of 8160 tgt 8066/ 8030

[14:38] Shai : weekly call- (14:38) Shai :Buy BNF again above 17755 sl of 17514 tgt 18130

[14:54] Shai : (14:53) r m:http://screencast.com/t/m8vKSfRhs

[14:55] Shai : (14:55) r m:Profiles – http://screencast.com/t/xTtAU0EbB6

[15:15] Shai : (15:15) Shai :hedge the NF long with an 8000 pe again in a 1: 1 ratio. We will review at the Open tom .

[15:30] Shai : (15:26) r m:5 minute – http://screencast.com/t/7G88d2J0U
(15:27) r m:Profiles – http://screencast.com/t/gxm6Wlu6

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General Chat Transcript

Room Name: Vtrender
Date and Time: October 06, 2015 09:03:39

[08:51] r m : Good Morning folks!
[08:51] r m : http://vtrender.com/levels-and-plan-for-6th-oct/
[08:51] r m : http://vtrender.com/orderflow-charts-and-notes-051015/
[08:52] r m : http://vtrender.com/consolidated-orderflow-051015/
[08:52] r m : Nifty OCT Future levels | KRA 8130 | Hypo1 above 8184➜8222➜8253 SL 8130 | Hypo2 below 8106➜8066➜7952 SL 8145
[08:52] r m : Banknifty OCT Future levels | KRA 17340 | Hypo1 above 17845➜17955➜18055 SL 17730 | Hypo2 below 17620➜17514➜17340 SL 17748
[08:55] Moses : GM rm and All
[08:56] Shankar : GM RM and akk
[08:57] Sandeep69 : Gm all
[08:57] r m : Hi Moses, Shankar
[09:01] Anay : GM All
[09:02] r m : (*** Private to Shankar ) I was facing problems of NT hanging or taking long time to load upgraded to 7.0.1000.30 version (God knows why they add so many numbers in version just a date would have been better!) and working fine now
[09:04] Shankar : Thanks for this info rm. Will check that.
[09:05] r m : Nifty Spot 20 to 24AUG – http://screencast.com/t/5OAWieeM
[09:05] r m : just to give an idea of gaps involved πŸ™‚
[09:07] Tejpreet : GM All.
[09:10] Sharad : GM all
[09:11] Shai : We are facing an issue with the Market Delta chart setup which has gone offline preventing charts from loading up. Please stand by till we get an update
[09:11] Anay : ok
[09:13] Shai : regret the inconvenience
[09:13] Gangesh : gm all
[09:13] RK : GM Shai,RM and all
[09:13] Uttam : GM everyone πŸ™‚
[09:14] Sankar : GM Shai, RM and everyone.
[09:15] r m : Hi RK, Sankar
[09:18] Uttam : SL for the 8000 PE @ 84 or today’s low of 77 Shai or do we exit it?
[09:18] Shai : hold
[09:18] Shai : will update
[09:19] Uttam : done, thanks πŸ™‚
[09:19] r m : MO is at 72 at open
[09:20] Uttam : BNF testing YVAH
[09:22] Uttam : BNF 17607 should hold right as that was YVWAP?
[09:22] Shai : Hold the Nifty 8000 pe with revised Sl of 75 on day- will update
[09:23] Uttam : thanks Shai
[09:29] r m : Open outside Value and Range + Open Drive
[09:29] r m : so far πŸ™‚
[09:29] Uttam : yep but 80% no valid today right as yesterday was trend day?
[09:29] r m : yes
[09:30] r m : NF Value area is still some distance away.
[09:30] Uttam : but VWAP will be crucial on both NF & BNF which is @ 8087 & 17607
[09:31] r m : BNF vwap is within sneezing distance from the day’s low
[09:31] r m : NF would need a strong sneezer πŸ˜€
[09:31] Uttam : yep πŸ˜‰
[09:32] Uttam : I am still unable to understand how yesterday my Asian Paint Fut got sold @ 851 @ 14:16 when there is no price below 852.8 after that time
[09:32] Uttam : it is booming today πŸ™ 865 now
[09:33] r m : did you check minute charts! normally all the missing prices are shown in one minute chart
[09:33] Uttam : yep even in the EOD database of 1 min charts low if 852.8
[09:33] Uttam : is*
[09:35] r m : then write to NSE, the least they can do is to explain to you how it happened πŸ™‚
[09:35] r m : now open drive is searching for seller at vwap
[09:35] Uttam : did mark them on twitter yesterday, will once verify the trade also today before mailing them
[09:35] r m : ok
[09:36] Tejpreet : Maybe you can check from tick history by matching the trade time.
[09:36] r m : tick history is not showing that price
[09:37] Tejpreet : Then it really is strange!
[09:37] Uttam : exactly…
[09:37] r m : yes
[09:37] Uttam : guess my broker will have to give me a valid explanation for this
[09:39] r m : lol
[09:39] r m : i guess you’ll be barking up the wrong tree πŸ™‚
[09:40] RK : Uttam nothing will work on this I mean broker,NSE etc..better to ignore and look forward..just to console you, I had a experience of BNF hitting my stop just some 1 Rs below printed low in NEST/charts and then later zoomed about 350 intra and 800 positional..it happens πŸ™‚
[09:40] Uttam : hmmm but if we cannot see it on the charts even @ EOD then is it not scary RK?
[09:41] Misaal : Can you guys see charts?
[09:41] Uttam : I am not worried about the monetary loss in profit but if I again need to keep a TSL I will be wary right?
[09:41] RK : certainly trade was done but its abt data not showing..
[09:42] Uttam : trade was done cos i got the contract note also
[09:42] RK : as ticks may be missed in charts due to poor feed
[09:42] Uttam : anyways as you said just let it be & hope it doesn’t repeat
[09:42] Uttam : but the EOD charts need to capture them all right?
[09:47] r m : (*** Private to Misaal ) No charts Misaal, Market Delta not working today
[09:48] r m : looks like sellers found at vwap
[09:48] Ashish : Yes RM, could be a journey to PIC
[09:48] Ashish : POC*
[09:51] RK : Uttam forgot to mention mt entry with Asian was at 800 and made a exit at 828.wanted to enter on that pull back to 832-34 but it made only till 836 and had to sit and watch it rallying πŸ™‚
[09:52] Shai : Update – Seems to be an issue affecting all MarketDelta users- They are working on the issue
[09:53] Shai : that is no consolation, but at least it’s not just me
[09:53] RK : Shai that’s fine..no issues πŸ™‚
[09:53] r m : journey so far http://screencast.com/t/9IdUP6F80Ss
[09:54] r m : I have made a khichdi of everything in this chart πŸ™‚
[09:55] Tejpreet : A nice selling tail visible in the chart.
[09:55] RK : nice and thanks RM
[09:55] r m : welcome RK
[09:56] r m : Open drive struck between PDH and VWAP
[09:56] r m : **stuck
[09:58] Shai : Update 2- MD says a fresh version download is required as it is a licensing issue. This may take a few hours
[09:58] Shai : I just have to wait for them to release it and do a download to the new version
[09:58] Jay null : RM Shai, can you please update stock sheet
[09:59] Shai : apologies guys, but we may have a washout today
[09:59] r m : @Jay, stock updates need charts and Shai is missing them as much as we πŸ™‚
[10:00] Ashish : No worries Captain πŸ™‚
[10:00] Jay null : ok RM … will not allow broker to earn today πŸ™‚
[10:00] Himanshu null : shai any views on positional bnf call?
[10:01] Shai : Himnashu we trail at 17595 that call near cost
[10:03] Shai : 17847 was our tgt1 but we did not get a chance to exit
[10:14] RK : RM I think both are trading comfortably below VWAP now?
[10:15] Shai : 8106 support for NF
[10:15] r m : yes RK
[10:15] Shai : below that the trip to 8066 we were speaking about yesterday
[10:16] r m : @RK, http://screencast.com/t/nZCzb2Mt2xSW
[10:17] Varun : Whts vwap
[10:17] Uttam : BNF positional TSL hits
[10:18] RK : thanks RM..IB lows done with 8121 and 17592
[10:18] Gangesh : @rm Rk ,which one software in ninja
[10:19] Shai : Thanks RM
[10:19] Shai : Is an open drive down
[10:19] Shai : IBL is our ref line for more downside
[10:20] RK : VWAP roughly 8148 and 17680
[10:20] Shai : yes and vwap
[10:21] r m : @Gangesh, Fin-alg and a few other indicators
[10:22] Varun : Thnks
[10:32] r m : @Gangesh, other indicators used in that chart are Relative Volume, Session VWAP, PriceActionSwin, IBRangeBands
[10:32] r m : also VWAPMulti for whole series vwap πŸ™‚
[10:36] Gangesh : ok sir, all other indicator is a part of Final MarketBalance or they differ from fin-alg
[10:36] Shai : exit the 8000 pe at 95 now
[10:36] r m : nothing from market balance in that chart Gangesh
[10:38] r m : more vwap testing http://screencast.com/t/RLQjphwfzL
[10:43] Bhagya : unable to see anything in screen. Can some one plz help thereason
[10:43] r m : no charts Bhagya, market delta is down today
[10:43] Bhagya : oh ok
[10:43] Bhagya : thanks, when can we get it back
[10:44] Mahipal : Rm can show your charts on this window if possible
[10:44] r m : (09:11) Shai :We are facing an issue with the Market Delta chart setup which has gone offline preventing charts from loading up. Please stand by till we get an update(09:58) Shai :Update 2- MD says a fresh version download is required as it is a licensing issue. This may take a few hours
[10:44] r m : @Mahipal ?
[10:44] Mahipal : yes
[10:44] Uttam : BNF @ VWAP now, could go logn here if sustains above it?
[10:44] r m : Ok, you mean here on omnovia?
[10:45] Mahipal : yes if possible
[10:45] r m : I don’t have the projection software on my PC not the bandwidth needed πŸ™
[10:45] Mahipal : no issue
[10:45] r m : you can always ask for updates πŸ™‚
[10:46] RK : RM is in the state where he cannot see his own chart then how come he can offer it to us? πŸ™‚
[10:46] Mahipal : ninja is working
[10:47] r m : @RK lo
[10:47] r m : lol
[10:48] r m : @RK, this is fast becoming like West Bengal, most of the state government employees are agitating for one reason or other but BSNL are management issues
[10:49] r m : for now bulls turned back from vwap http://screencast.com/t/qrcHBKPh
[10:50] Mahipal : @RM pl give 30 min charts for one month screen shot for BNF & NF
[10:50] r m : you mean profiles or just plain 30 minute?
[10:51] Mahipal : 30 min for 30 days
[10:51] r m : ok
[10:52] Bhagya : Shai sir, kindly take your time and I request all our team members to kindly understand the tech issue and wait patiently. Inspite of that, we are getting updates here. Hats off to team Vtrender
[10:55] r m : @Mahipal, NF 30 min http://screencast.com/t/UirrGPr8uR
[10:57] Mahipal : image no 1049 what you send in 5 minutes
[10:59] r m : that is a specialized chart for day trade, will be so congested with lines and indicators that nothing will be visible in one month 30 minute chart πŸ™‚
[11:00] Mahipal : 5 min charts for 30 days i?
[11:02] Shai : Thanks Bhagya
[11:03] Shai : That vwap is critcal in NF now
[11:03] Uttam : NF managing to stay above VWAP, first sign of strength
[11:03] Shai : IB low holding for about 50 mins now which means more chances of a normal day
[11:03] Shai : at least the one time frame down of the open has stopped
[11:04] Uttam : so above 8150 could go long for day’s high?
[11:04] Shai : Positional longs can be taken in NF above 8160 for a tgt of 8260 and sl of 8105 this week
[11:04] Shai : yes intra can also play abv vwap for 8184 and 8222
[11:05] Uttam : thanks shai
[11:05] Shai : allow 10 points just to be safe abv vwap hence 8160
[11:05] Uttam : yes Shai
[11:06] Shai : can get back in BNF longs also with same sl of 17595
[11:07] r m : vwap attacks are getting frequent http://screencast.com/t/0ewDe8stV
[11:09] Shai : Thanks RM
[11:09] r m : welcome πŸ™‚
[11:09] Shai : One thing about Ninja, their charts look very elegant
[11:10] r m : yes, one does not want to go back to ami once used to NT
[11:11] Mukesh : I am trying to match the scrip name automatically ..Do we have nay way in Ninja
[11:11] Shai : vwap will be a congestion zone on days like today so treat it as an area not a line
[11:11] r m : @Mahipal, that 5 minute chart if viewed in 30 min for full month will look like this πŸ˜€ – http://screencast.com/t/TGAOB7yw
[11:12] r m : @Mukesh, could not understand your question
[11:13] Mahipal : Thanks
[11:14] Tejpreet : A quick round of applause for Our man friday RM……..Thanks for all the share!
[11:14] Mukesh : I am using Yahoo EOD in Ninja for learning … I have to map each scrip .. DO you know how we can do all at once
[11:15] Shai : Indeed Tejpreet +1
[11:16] r m : @Tejpreet, man tuesday you mean πŸ˜€
[11:16] Uttam : yes thanks RM πŸ™‚
[11:16] Shankar : man all days
[11:17] Tejpreet : πŸ™‚ Man anyday would be more apt !
[11:17] r m : @Mukesh, Symbols can be fed in one go using File > Utilities > Import Stock symbol list
[11:21] Mukesh : I will check RM , Thank you
[11:22] r m : this link will help http://tinyurl.com/po4sqs2
[11:22] r m : just ignore the connection setup part πŸ™‚
[11:23] Varun : rm any ninja profile update
[11:23] Varun : till now
[11:26] r m : @Varun, trishanku – heavens have no obstacle but πŸ™‚
[11:26] r m : http://screencast.com/t/uJkr4TMMmrP
[11:27] Varun : poor low, poor structure below n singles at top
[11:27] Varun : #probe 8090 on
[11:27] Varun : 8084 vwap of yesterday
[11:29] Varun : rm uve got flow also on ninja now ?
[11:31] r m : no Varun
[11:31] r m : I mean I don’t have
[11:32] r m : does not work too well with the data we have
[11:32] Tejpreet : RM is the market balance mentioned ion true data similar to the OF we have here.
[11:33] r m : yes, market balance is foot print from fin-alg
[11:33] Tejpreet : but like you said is it complete with kind of data that truedata provides
[11:34] r m : Gomi’s Volume ladder and DD’s further innovations on it at bigmike are far better then Marketbalance but does not work well with truedata ticks
[11:34] Tejpreet : Exactly the whole issue is with the data provided
[11:35] r m : yep, you get better ticks with Yusibi’s data extractor from NEST
[11:35] r m : but it is too resource hungry
[11:37] r m : Poor lows of Varun attract NF and BNF πŸ™‚
[11:37] Tejpreet : Ok ..my machine is already huffing n puffing with ami , nt7 , nest trader , multiple browser windows running πŸ˜‰
[11:38] r m : ami needs a super computer for itself πŸ™‚
[11:38] Tejpreet : Looks like Varuns 8090 on radar.
[11:38] Tejpreet : Ooops I tght nt7 was the culprit and ami needed ledd resources.
[11:38] Tejpreet : less
[11:38] r m : not many sellers below IBL so far, it goes back from there everytime, guess it will rotate till Euope open?
[11:39] RK : this fall in NF had vol spike with 5.6 lac qty which is huge
[11:39] r m : @Tejpreet, just watch on task manager, ami does not believe in dieting πŸ™‚
[11:39] RK : and BNF had vol spike of 1.6 lac
[11:40] Jay null : touching 8070 and close above 8090 would be ideal for 8225 tomo
[11:40] r m : BNF is geting thru – http://screencast.com/t/zeKSBNuMLO
[11:41] Tejpreet : True RM …nt7 a distant 4th on hogging resources….Ami is number 1!
[11:41] Uttam : BNF SL hits again
[11:43] r m : @Tejpreet, NEST is a big culprit too, what is more NEST keeps accmulating day’s data in some cache and sometime freezes in afternoon! only an exit and restart of NEST helps then πŸ™‚
[11:44] r m : sellers are losing enthu near IBL
[11:44] Tejpreet : True RM .
[11:44] Gangesh : may be long again at bnf?
[11:45] Tejpreet : Sellers waiting for push from europe.
[11:45] r m : @Gangesh, my principle (drummed in by Shai) no long below vwap on an open drive downward day πŸ™‚
[11:46] Gangesh : ok
[11:49] Gangesh : problem in loading chart in ninja with market balance. Main culprit may be my data feed. is global data feed not enough for order flow chart
[11:50] r m : global data feed is totally useless for NT, too slow and interrupts regularly
[11:51] r m : it works smoothly with ami though, guess those guys could not get the hang of NT πŸ™‚
[11:51] Tejpreet : Gangesh are you using marketbalance from truedata site ?
[11:51] Gangesh : seems i must have to go with esignal
[11:52] Gangesh : no sir i have market balance add-ons of ninja
[11:52] Tejpreet : Can you tell me the source .
[11:52] Gangesh : it is from fin-alg.com
[11:53] Tejpreet : Thnks truedata gives the same.
[12:14] Shai : so it’s still a Normal day panning out with one attempt at vwap shoing the seller to be stronger on day
[12:15] r m : yep
[12:16] r m : http://screencast.com/t/TDI0tLLM
[12:19] Ashish : should break lows now and target YVWAP
[12:24] r m : now all responsibility on the shoulders of Varun’s K period πŸ™‚
[12:25] RK : Ashish some people are waiting there to add buy πŸ™‚
[12:25] r m : yes http://screencast.com/t/HnCAUCObb
[12:25] RK : if at all it goes there!
[12:25] RK : *add longs
[12:27] r m : it is going down at the pace rivers flow in plains – just drifting πŸ™‚
[12:28] Ashish : @RK, VAH buyers are there..
[12:30] RK : I expect a fall upto yVWAP which is fine and can try to add some longs there
[12:30] RK : with stops below 8060/50
[12:30] RK : or if we already made the lows then add above 8160..till then watch it
[12:31] Ashish : That will be fine RK for me.. shorted @ 8150
[12:31] r m : Spot has the BRN 8100 to cope with http://screencast.com/t/p65zRsxeQ
[12:31] RK : great! big contra players here πŸ™‚
[12:32] r m : πŸ™‚
[12:32] Ashish : Look @ Maruti..
[12:33] RK : Yeah but not intrested in this down move so not got in
[12:33] RK : only buying no selling till BNF and NF gets tired πŸ™‚
[12:33] Ashish : I am riding it since Thursday πŸ™‚
[12:34] RK : Yeah that’s always good feel when entire mkt is roaring up but your shorted stock is tanking down πŸ™‚
[12:34] r m : lambee race ka ghoda πŸ™‚
[12:35] Ashish : LOL Rm
[12:36] r m : MO is back to 56 after morning spurt
[12:36] RK : it has o=h in both spot and F means can ride the stock till close for low close
[12:37] Ashish : Yes, have plans to exit today only from it
[12:37] RK : but it will show some good support around these levels in spot for positionals..max -10-20 from here and may grind is what I expect in Maruti
[12:38] Ashish : OK Rk, will watch it closely then
[12:38] RK : Shai what’s the ref for 8106?
[12:39] RK : which you said as support for the day
[12:40] r m : Maruti Fut weekly profile http://screencast.com/t/hYSOUFkKbz
[12:41] RK : BNF 300 off from day highs..bad job by bulls if VAL is gone
[12:42] Ashish : Thanks Rm for the chart
[12:42] Ashish : looks like 4365 VPOC will hold the downfall
[12:42] r m : welcome Ashish
[12:43] r m : @RK, BNF Value is overlapping, more like inside day as far as VA is concerned
[12:43] Ashish : trading @ 4360 levels… this level will be crucial
[12:43] RK : Yes RM
[12:44] r m : http://screencast.com/t/vx26ey42o
[12:44] r m : 80% done by BNF it seems
[12:44] Uttam : yep
[12:44] Ashish : Yes RM
[12:45] r m : Thanks
[12:45] RK : RM look at this chart..it says that trading is so kiddo thing πŸ™‚
[12:45] RK : http://chartink.com/stocks/MARUTI.html
[12:46] r m : πŸ™‚
[12:47] r m : trending stocks MA charts always look like that πŸ™‚
[12:48] RK : yes that’s what meant πŸ™‚
[12:49] r m : short was around 4196 on that which was reversed near 4400 but only the guy who trades it will know that pain πŸ˜€
[12:49] RK : yeah me me πŸ™‚
[12:49] r m : lol
[12:50] RK : so lows done for the day for Nf at Shai’s support level of 8106 and BNF with VAL?
[12:51] r m : at least buyers are there at lows πŸ™‚ http://screencast.com/t/TvyiUEaeTj
[12:51] r m : Period is also K πŸ™‚
[12:53] Shai : 17514 was a nice support per orderflow and 8105 in NF
[12:53] Shai : vol spikes at lows
[12:55] Uttam : do we have VWAP & POC together today in both NF & BNF?
[12:56] Uttam : 8135-40 & 17635-40?
[12:56] Augustin : @Shai – Did the short trade on NF not activate below 8106?
[12:56] r m : dpoc below vwap
[12:57] Uttam : oh is it? In the Ami AFL it is showing above
[12:57] r m : http://screencast.com/t/4h9uwcZKD
[12:58] r m : vwap challenge coming up again
[13:16] r m : Profiles – http://screencast.com/t/NMfm1HwC7F
[13:17] r m : 5 minute – http://screencast.com/t/Fd4nYOfft0N
[13:31] Ashish : Guys, Any views on Infy options for results?
[13:32] r m : only once we got rich with them more then an year back, writers got cautious after that πŸ™‚
[13:33] Ashish : πŸ™‚
[13:34] Shai : STBT trade : Sell NF 8122 sl of 8160 tgt 8066/ 8030
[13:40] Uttam : Shai we could reverse the shorts above 8160?
[13:41] r m : VWAP testing more frequent then Modi testing πŸ™‚
[13:41] r m : http://screencast.com/t/z2XHcozZMwO
[13:42] Shai : yes that buy abv 8160 still holds
[13:42] Uttam : thanks Shai
[13:43] Shai : but this may trade here and if it has to go down should be tom only
[13:44] Uttam : so we have both NF & BNF above VWAP now, lets see how much they can sustain
[13:50] r m : first above vwap, then higher high, then needs to move into single prints, many bridges to cross http://screencast.com/t/o2TK8njF
[13:51] Uttam : yep the single prints at open would be tough to break
[13:56] r m : the other side of the story is failed open drive oftend lands on the other side πŸ™‚
[13:56] r m : so let us see who is stronger, vwap magnate or open drive failure!
[13:57] Gangesh : seems we hit sl
[13:59] r m : higher high also done, at least in NF http://screencast.com/t/5HkRd66vf
[14:00] r m : Profiles – http://screencast.com/t/QwdT4Gjj
[14:06] Gangesh : hitted sar?
[14:07] Naresh : Positional NF triggered ?
[14:07] Uttam : yep
[14:12] Gangesh : what will positional sl
[14:13] Sandeep69 : so we are positionally long and intra short , am I right ?
[14:13] Uttam : intra short SL has been hit
[14:14] Uttam : 8160
[14:14] Sandeep69 : okay , thanks uttam
[14:14] Uttam : the short has been reversed to positional longs now with SL 8105
[14:19] r m : firmly into single prints now http://screencast.com/t/FlL6UiFo8GkP
[14:22] r m : http://screencast.com/t/bNYs9HVz5
[14:23] Uttam : N doing what K could not πŸ˜‰
[14:24] r m : K sowed the seeds πŸ™‚
[14:24] Uttam : so finally it ought to be K
[14:24] r m : lol
[14:24] Uttam : πŸ™‚
[14:25] r m : K kee mahima aparampaar πŸ™‚
[14:34] Shai : NF Sl of STBT rtaken
[14:35] Uttam : Shai re-entry into BNF longs only after tom open?
[14:35] Shai : we are in weekly positional longs now
[14:35] Shai : Can enter BNF if we are abv 17750 by close
[14:36] Shai : tgt would be 18130
[14:36] Uttam : oh ok Shai, thanks
[14:36] Sandeep69 : and sl ?
[14:37] Shai : sl of 17514 for the buy abv 17750
[14:38] Uttam : ok πŸ™‚
[14:38] Shai : Buy BNF again above 17755 sl of 17514 tgt 18130
[14:39] Shai : NF as long as we look to close abv 8130 now, our long carry is safe
[14:40] RK : higher value sucessfully for 5th Day πŸ™‚
[14:42] Shai : yeah but the open prints and MO point to a sideways few days
[14:42] Shai : maybe 8030- 8330 is the new range with stps below 7930
[14:42] RK : yes and BNF overlapped today..so we are close to end of upmove
[14:43] Shai : yes but since we are abv vwap the singles need to be taken out
[14:43] r m : MO at 60, morning euphoria got corrected
[14:44] Anay : 60 is good enough πŸ˜‰
[14:45] r m : πŸ™‚
[14:46] Tejpreet : Vix is still 19 plus despite good move from 7940 hardly fallen .
[14:50] Uttam : we could end up in a spike here? Varun where art thou?
[14:52] r m : Varun is feeling forlorn without profile and footprint charts here πŸ™‚
[14:53] r m : http://screencast.com/t/m8vKSfRhs
[14:54] Shai : NF has to cross 8185 for a 40 point spike
[14:54] r m : Thanks Shai!
[14:55] r m : Profiles – http://screencast.com/t/xTtAU0EbB6
[14:55] RK : Shai VWAP close?
[14:57] Shai : possible- is a noraml day still even though we went below IBL by a few points
[14:57] Shai : most of the work was done in the IB and we had 2 timeframes
[14:58] RK : asking for vwap close based on profile..I feel that would keep the upmove in live rather than spike
[14:58] Shai : RM what is the font you use for the profile chart and the size?
[14:59] Shai : yes spike defeats the purpose of an overnight hold
[14:59] r m : @Shai, there is no customization possible in Fin-alg πŸ™
[15:00] r m : unless one knows C++ and can hack it πŸ™‚
[15:00] Shai : ok
[15:00] Shai : looks very elegant
[15:00] r m : yes
[15:00] Shai : and does not need any customisation πŸ™‚
[15:01] r m : Acme has customization possible to extreme levels but can’t be merged!
[15:01] r m : yes!
[15:01] Shai : ok
[15:02] Shai : INvestor RT guys released the update an hour back , but the market delta guys are still snoring
[15:05] Tejpreet : Shai can get back into some puts again near closing for tmrw
[15:05] Tejpreet : only for NF.
[15:06] Shai : NF abv 8145 does not point to an immediate downside
[15:07] Shai : I would have been confident of 8060 had it stayed below 8140 earlier
[15:07] Gangesh : so if today close below 8140 may an indication to closed positional long
[15:07] Tejpreet : Ok will wait for levels to break before buying puts .
[15:08] Tejpreet : Without OF price seems pretty meaningless πŸ™‚
[15:08] Shai : haha
[15:09] Shai : Gangesh the low of today is a good stop just like 8030 yesterday for a long bias
[15:09] Tejpreet : Really feeling like a junkie without his daily dose.
[15:09] Uttam : hopefully we have them up tom
[15:11] r m : BNF Profile – http://screencast.com/t/xTtAU0EbB6
[15:11] r m : NF – http://screencast.com/t/wZyPF3bLGNc
[15:11] Mohit : seems NF listening to Tejpreet
[15:11] Mohit : 8155 now πŸ™‚
[15:12] r m : back to vwap πŸ™‚
[15:12] Tejpreet : I can see lot of reds in OF πŸ™‚
[15:15] Shai : hedge the NF long with an 8000 pe again in a 1: 1 ratio. We will review at the Open tom .
[15:16] Shai : buy to open
[15:16] Tejpreet : Shai incase you get the historical data for todays OF do post it on the blog.
[15:17] Shai : sure will
[15:17] Tejpreet : Thanks.
[15:17] Shai : I should have it before US opens
[15:17] Shai : the BNF is not closing well here and hence the PE
[15:17] Uttam : great, amen for that
[15:18] Shai : It’s off from that 17750 mark by a 100
[15:18] Gangesh : any price
[15:20] Shai : the pe? – buy mkt
[15:20] Shai : it ‘s liquid
[15:20] Uttam : bought between 90-92
[15:26] r m : 5 minute – http://screencast.com/t/7G88d2J0U
[15:27] r m : Profiles – http://screencast.com/t/gxm6Wlu6
[15:30] Shai : By eall
[15:30] Shai : Have anice evening
[15:30] r m : Thanks and bye folks, have a great evening πŸ™‚
[15:30] Sandeep69 : bye all
[15:30] Ashish : Thanks and bye all
[15:30] Uttam : thanks RM & Shai have a nice evening All πŸ™‚

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Room Name: Vtrender
Date and Time: October 06, 2015 09:03:39

[09:33] Soumya : Shai Eicher Motors positional still to hold or should square off
[09:37] r m : Kamaye jao πŸ™‚
[09:38] r m : touched 935 today!!
[09:40] Soumya : Any views on Asian Paints Shai?
[09:41] Ashish : @Rk, what have you done with RK. U have given it rocket fuel πŸ™‚
[09:41] Ashish : o i mean with Dr. reddy
[09:43] r m : @Ashish, both are on nuclear energy πŸ™‚
[09:43] RK : was short and he pushed me to run for cover and go long at open πŸ™‚
[09:44] Uttam : @Soumya AsianPaint 861-865 is supply zone, if crosses 866 on good volumes could consider longs – Shai gave this yesterday
[09:44] Ashish : hahaha RM πŸ™‚
[09:45] Ashish : ok RK.. now looking good for all time high
[09:46] Ashish : Cipla also showing strenght here
[09:46] Ashish : strength*
[09:48] Soumya : Shai one last question – Jubilant has broken its band of 358-388. Any zones next? Your view
[09:48] Soumya : Thank you rm bhai and Uttam
[09:49] r m : @Soumya, Shai’s charts not working today – Market Delta on strike πŸ™‚
[09:49] r m : with all transporters πŸ™‚
[09:49] RK : Yes Ashish.all time highs are best place to enter positionals πŸ™‚
[09:49] Soumya : Ok.. No issues..
[09:50] Soumya : Market Delta shifted its headoffice in Kolkata? Lol.. Going for strike
[09:51] Ashish : Thanks RK..
[09:52] r m : @Soumya lol
[09:53] r m : I think in Calcutta it is news only if someone turns up for work πŸ™‚
[09:58] Soumya : Hehe
[09:59] Ashish : HPCL on fire
[10:07] Uttam : Shai what would be the TSL for UltraCem
[10:17] Shai : I don’t have any charts guys- all symbols have evporated in thin air and are refusing to be back
[10:17] Shai : it’s a bug at their end and have to just wait it out till they sort it
[10:20] r m : Weekly Vol Prof chart of Ultracemco OCTF it this helps in any way Uttam http://screencast.com/t/3x0OJBRuBlW
[10:21] Uttam : thanks RM πŸ™‚
[10:21] RK : Uttam its weak bel0w 2800..if it keeps cutting the lows below 2800 better to quit
[10:22] Uttam : yes RK, thanks for the advise
[10:22] RK : Welcome
[10:23] Uttam : placed a SL below day’s low for now
[10:26] RK : RM can you share similar chart for BPCL?
[10:29] r m : sure
[10:30] r m : BPCL OCT F http://screencast.com/t/942dJgxkQ
[10:30] r m : seems to be doing nothing πŸ™‚
[10:31] RK : thanks RM..why nothing? its up 2.5% mate πŸ™‚
[10:32] RK : let it fly through those LVNs
[10:33] r m : ok πŸ™‚
[10:33] r m : I just watched the four weeks range πŸ™‚
[10:34] r m : did not realize that bottom to top of that range done in 2 days πŸ™‚
[10:34] RK : πŸ™‚
[10:35] r m : only future price so composite may not be very accurate
[10:37] RK : Yes thats understood
[10:39] r m : problem is that truedata software does not allow me to use historic data from database too unless one is a subscriber to that market πŸ™‚
[10:44] Sandeep : @rm subscriber to that market means?
[10:46] r m : @Sandeep, I am subscribed to NFO only, need subscription to NSE equity for cash prices and CDS for currency
[10:49] Sandeep : oops got it. Thanks
[10:51] RK : Anyone still holding TTM..what was the obj from Shai above 314?
[10:56] Porus : 331?
[10:57] Uttam : 340
[10:59] RK : fine..thanks Porus and Uttam
[11:15] r m : (*** Private to RK ) Have you watched those dalton videos? They seem very good for understanding markets. Though I think you understand markets very well already πŸ™‚
[15:01] RK : 333 nice number to close TTM trade..298-333 πŸ™‚
[15:01] r m : πŸ™‚
[15:02] Tejpreet : WOW ! RK congrats.
[15:02] r m : 10% cut from Tatas for RK πŸ™‚
[15:03] Uttam : great RK πŸ™‚ congrats
[15:03] RK : after posting TTM msg here omnovia crashed here with some blackout screen πŸ™‚
[15:03] Shai : Nice RK- but for the multi year hold guys words like cheap and valuation are flying around for TTM
[15:04] RK : Thanks Shai..but as a swing trader 10% is far much better to bookout..hardly another 10 Rs then it should dip again..lets catch then πŸ™‚
[15:04] Uttam : Shai that is what I have done, have been buying in cash both TaMo & Tisco to hold for really long period
[15:05] r m : @RK, Omnovia could not digest the profit % πŸ˜€
[15:05] RK : more confident now a days that nothing can go in one direction πŸ™‚
[15:05] Shai : oh yes RK
[15:05] RK : RM lol
[15:05] Shai : 10% beats it
[15:06] RK : yes