OrderFlow charts and Notes 11/09/15

[08:45]   r m : Good Morning folks!
[08:45]   r m : http://vtrender.com/levels-and-plan-for-11th-sept-2/
[08:46]   r m : http://vtrender.com/orderflow-charts-and-notes-100915/
[08:46]   r m : http://vtrender.com/consolidated-orderflow-100915/
[08:46]   Rahul P : good morning
[08:46]   r m : Nifty SEP Future levels | Key Reference Area 7842 | Hypo1 above 7842➜7881➜7938 SL 7797 | Hypo2 below 7788➜7758➜7727 SL 7818
[08:46]   r m : Banknifty SEP Future levels | KRA 16550 | Hypo1 above 16710➜16817➜16922 SL 16610 | Hypo2 below 16550➜16363 SL 16615
[08:50]   Moses : GM rm,Shai and All
[08:51]   r m : Hi Moses
[08:54]   Augustin : GM all
[08:56]   Kathir : GM Shai RM al friends
[08:57]   r m : Hi Kathir
[08:57]   Kathir : @RM so you have decided today no gap up or down..thanks 🙂
[08:58]   Chandrashekhar : GM all friends and mentors 🙂
[08:59]   Kiran : Delta of last 30 min is red so do we expect gap down ?
[09:00]   r m : @Kathir, I guess similarity in initials confused you, RK is the one who decides 🙂
[09:01]   Anay : GM All
[09:01]   Kathir : oh 🙂
[09:01]   Anay : @rm was checking Ninja Trader datafeeds yest.
[09:01]   Kathir : sgx -15
[09:01]   Anay : do you use TrueData with it?
[09:01]   r m : yes
[09:01]   Anay : ok. it works with GDFL as well rt?
[09:02]   r m : I tried GDFL and Neotrade analytics both, NT works best with Truedata
[09:02]   r m : also others were not giving tick data
[09:03]   Anay : I see
[09:03]   Anay : and true data is an official vendor of e signal in india rt?
[09:03]   Mahipal : pl give contact details of NT True data
[09:03]   r m : in any case Truedata gives both cash and fno and indices . GDFL was giving only fno
[09:04]   Mahipal : what is the cost of feed
[09:04]   r m : truedata is official vendor for nse data not esignal
[09:04]   Mahipal : pl give contact details
[09:04]   Anay : oh ok
[09:04]   r m : @Mahipal, Truedata.in
[09:05]   Anay : and approx annual cost is 17k each for cash n FnO rt?
[09:05]   r m : https://www.truedata.in/
[09:05]   r m : @Anay it is cheaper then GDFL, cost you can check from their website
[09:06]   Anay : Yes. I checked yest.
[09:06]   Mahipal : compatible for market profile indicator
[09:06]   Anay : Currently GDFL is cheaper for me as I am a Zerodha client
[09:06]   Mahipal : thanks for valuable informations
[09:06]   Anay : but just 1-2k cheaper
[09:06]   r m : OK Anay
[09:06]   r m : Welcome Mahipal
[09:07]   Anay : Ninja + True Data looks nice….might try it later
[09:07]   Anay : 🙂
[09:07]   r m : @Anay, just give Truedata a try for one week, it is free, you will never go back to GDFL 🙂
[09:07]   r m : I have used both
[09:07]   Anay : 🙂
[09:08]   Sharad : GM all
[09:08]   Anay : and how abt coding in Ninja? as simpe as AFLs?
[09:08]   r m : no, it is not simple
[09:08]   Anay : 🙁
[09:08]   Vikkas C : Hi RM
[09:08]   Vikkas C : gdmrng all
[09:08]   r m : Hi Vikkas
[09:09]   r m : @Vikkas, did you buy on the road too? #Gapup 😀
[09:09]   Vikkas C : haha
[09:09]   Vikkas C : no positions over night RM..mkt gives ample opportunity thru out the day 🙂
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[09:10]   r m : yes Vikkas 🙂
[09:10]   Shai : GM all
[09:10]   Koushik : GM all
[09:10]   Anay : ok cool RM. Thanks. 🙂
[09:10]   Vikkas C : yes RM was checking BMT last night ..elite membership is 100$ naa
[09:11]   Girish : GM all
[09:11]   r m : I guess so
[09:11]   r m : I am non-elite 😀
[09:11]   Vikkas C : lol
[09:11]   Anay : yup. it’s $100
[09:12]   Vikkas C : total worth i suppose ..its like a trading den of knowledge
[09:12]   r m : yes
[09:13]   Ashish : GM All
[09:16]   Anay : yes
[09:16]   Shai : open at spikehighs
[09:16]   Sandeep : gm all
[09:16]   Tejpreet : GM All
[09:16]   Aayush : gm all
[09:16]   Kathir : @shai buy nf for hypo
[09:17]   Shai : yes can tgt 7883
[09:21]   Uttam : SL for long will be 7790 or day’s low Shai?
[09:23]   Shai : for the hypo follow the hypo sl as it is an all day trade
[09:23]   Uttam : oh okies
[09:24]   Mukesh : Hey Shai
[09:24]   Shai : pdh is support now
[09:24]   Tejpreet : RM can you let me know the spike low in terms of nifty spot.
[09:24]   Shai : Hi Mukesh- welcome aboard
[09:25]   Santosh : Gm all
[09:25]   Ashish : Around 7790 Tej..
[09:26]   Ashish : 7780*
[09:26]   Tejpreet : Thanks Ashish
[09:26]   Shai : spot looks safe for bulls abv 7816 for now
[09:27]   Augustin : @Shai – Views on BNF for Intra?
[09:28]   r m : @Tejpreet, guess above 7775? judge for yourself 🙂 http://screencast.com/t/fiSeTXed3Lp
[09:28]   Tejpreet : Thanjs RM 7780 plus usual filter .
[09:28]   Tejpreet : Thanks
[09:29]   r m : ok 🙂
[09:29]   Shai : BNF good abv 16710 – 16922 tgt
[09:29]   r m : NF went deep below IBH yesterday but spot was just skimming IBH!
[09:29]   Shai : supp is 16554 below 16710 for this open
[09:29]   Augustin : Ok
[09:30]   Aayush : shai whats a good sl for shorts?
[09:30]   RK : GM Shai,RM and all
[09:30]   Augustin : @Shai – Any positional views on BNF – Can move towards 17500 before expiry?
[09:30]   RK : Hatrick OAOR 🙂
[09:30]   r m : Hi RK 🙂
[09:31]   r m : @RK, Kathir was asking where you are, I told him that you are busy causing gap up 🙂
[09:31]   Kathir : 🙂 HI rk
[09:31]   RK : RM lol..everything is managable untill you keep the day high below 7900 and weekly close around here 🙂
[09:31]   Kathir : he comes to rom after finishing taking morning profits 🙂
[09:32]   r m : @RK, ok, so be it 🙂
[09:33]   Varun : we could probe 7905 and 7940
[09:33]   Varun : days low very imp now
[09:33]   Varun : as daylow-filter
[09:35]   r m : @RK, Varun is threatening to take above 7900 🙂
[09:35]   Girish : 7400/7500/7600 PE is making DH
[09:35]   Girish : Just an observation. VIX playing up, I presume?
[09:35]   RK : RM all the probabilities are there to scale high..lets see 🙂
[09:35]   Varun : humari kya aukaad, hum chote aadmi hain jeee
[09:35]   Shai : Aayush 7882 or 7962 if playing a bigger TF
[09:36]   Aayush : sure thanx
[09:36]   r m : @Varun, pata hai, pata hai, aasmaan se thode chhote 😀
[09:36]   Shai : Augustin on spot if we manage a couple of closes abv 16540 the looks good for 17000/ 17500 spot
[09:37]   RK : RM from 10/10 it’s now 6/10 longs..If he scales it above 7900 then almost 10/10 longs and Monday’s action would decide to continue longs or back to shorts 🙂
[09:37]   Shai : but sure fire weakness if 16540 goes
[09:37]   RK : *6/10 shorts
[09:37]   r m : right RK 🙂
[09:38]   RK : Shai would you play positional for that final detination of 7990 or give a skip here if we scale higher today
[09:40]   r m : 7940 is previous week’s VAH I think – http://screencast.com/t/pPC2hHoSYDtD
[09:40]   RK : Kathir rainy season..have to wait for profits man 🙂
[09:40]   Kathir : yes RK 🙂
[09:41]   Shai : mildly bullish open though an OAOR again
[09:41]   Shai : staying abv spike highs
[09:41]   Augustin : Tks Shai
[09:42]   Shai : RK not formed a positional view yet- am waiting till IB done
[09:42]   Girish : even NF staying aboe spike highs?
[09:42]   Misaal : Shai what is the Finish ?
[09:42]   RK : short term move is as per your road map..we scaled to 7850 now and from here 7930-90 but I think OF is not supporting..
[09:42]   Tejpreet : Lovely charts RM above 7940 is 7991 VPOC which RK wants.
[09:42]   Shai : yes Girish for NF only- pdh is spike highs on chart
[09:43]   Misaal : In place of Delta
[09:43]   Girish : okay
[09:44]   r m : @Tejpreet, finding balance and then breakouts from that is more reliable then these fix time frame, weekly or mothly profiles I think
[09:44]   RK : RM what was participants role yday?
[09:44]   Shai : Misaal it is a variation of delta but not the net difference, imp is given to where we are closing now per volume at price
[09:45]   r m : @RK, non-directional, nothing huge
[09:45]   Tejpreet : True trading the breakouts is critical and holding them is of utmost importance 🙂
[09:46]   r m : @RK, now a days we have simplified it – http://vtrender.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/pcoi7.png
[09:46]   r m : very soon you’ll find this on other blogs too 😀
[09:46]   RK : but certainly this is one complex zone..no significant cash volume in any of the scrips I watch yday in cash..but still they may move up leaving uncertainities..
[09:47]   Varun : day bfore ws short covering
[09:47]   Varun : wht ws yesterday
[09:47]   RK : RM I used to quote in office “who has it give it; who dont have it, take it..so be calm and do your job” :))
[09:47]   r m : lol
[09:48]   r m : socialism in Ayn Rand’s “Atlas Shrugged” – to each as per his need, from each as per his capability 😀
[09:49]   r m : in the end only NREGA types left in the factory which practiced it 😀
[09:49]   RK : Yep perfect 🙂
[09:50]   Tejpreet : Shai if a dip comes to 7816-20 spot is it a buy with SL or wait for IB completion.
[09:51]   RK : Varun looks like longs added yday
[09:51]   Varun : 7790 dip is a best buy @tej
[09:52]   Tejpreet : OK 7790 spot
[09:52]   Varun : ya spike continuation means buying
[09:52]   Varun : no nf
[09:52]   Tejpreet : ok..thanks
[09:52]   Varun : has to be a fast reversal
[09:52]   Varun : else dump it with a 15 point stop
[09:53]   Tejpreet : Already punched in cpl of BO 🙂
[09:53]   Varun : a break below todays lo- filter cn easilt take it thr
[09:53]   Varun : if todays low held we probe 7905
[09:56]   Shai : Tejpreeet 7782 now a good supp
[09:57]   RK : if want to take a positional contra buy at 7790, I would prefer a stop below 7750..we got that 12.30 buyer yday from that zone who made first spike and I think after the dip he came back again to lift up..so in yday’s context he was strong..now auction is between him and old strong sellers at 7860
[09:57]   Shai : weakness only if it breaks
[09:57]   Tejpreet : Thanks Shai
[09:58]   Shai : Agree RK except that sl should be 7720 -25 – all day we never went below that y’day after OAOR
[09:59]   RK : Yes yday 7725 had a very good support
[10:00]   RK : they made that morning dip only to eat our positnal stop 🙂
[10:00]   Tejpreet : So does that make selling 7600 put a good RR in any dip as vix hovering around 25.
[10:00]   Soumya : Shai what about the bottom of Nifty.. Do you think it has been made?
[10:00]   Tejpreet : Say around 90
[10:02]   r m : @Soumya, this guy Ramki says more Yo-Yo ahead http://t.co/wx8DQPKxSz
[10:03]   r m : @RK, now next step should be to take out Short’s positional stops 🙂
[10:03]   RK : RM waves toughest content read in my life..ok tried to read in life :))
[10:03]   Girish : @rm 🙂
[10:04]   r m : @RK, yes, I never read that, just his opinion 🙂
[10:04]   RK : RM yeah Varun is on that job 🙂
[10:05]   r m : After all once Ramki has practiced so hard why we should break our brains (insignificant in any case!) on those waves, I just take his words 😀
[10:05]   RK : fair enough 🙂
[10:05]   Varun : wht job man
[10:06]   r m : @Varun, hitting short stops above 7900 🙂
[10:06]   RK : taking shorts out of the system 🙂
[10:06]   RK : RM but historically Sep is always a positive month in returns I suppose
[10:06]   RK : may be except 2008
[10:07]   Varun : probs of rallies in bear mrkt, thy fall before thy start
[10:07]   Varun : sell and get results in minutes
[10:07]   Misaal : RM. I think, thats relative because August is a negative one.
[10:09]   Koushik : shai — can’t see the green pink line in the chart today also the delta in bnf
[10:10]   Girish : NF getting rejection at VWAP, Shai ?
[10:11]   R Goel : shai there are some grey bar in the below pane i could see them in the yesterday’s chart
[10:11]   Shai : yes Girish a little early but staying below vwap does not hel the open buyers
[10:11]   R Goel : just above the gren – red delta
[10:12]   R Goel : not seen any today yet
[10:12]   Girish : got it, thanks Shai !
[10:13]   Shai : Soumya technically the bottom does not confirm till we at least get 2 weekly closes abv 7940 spot
[10:13]   r m : That 82 point balanced profile on 9th SEP gave 90 points on downside but got buyers, now how many points up? 2 X range will make it 7950 #justsaying 🙂 http://screencast.com/t/sLSKSwKv95a
[10:14]   Shai : besides the mkt is still very mixed on what the FED will do next week and hence vix is staying high
[10:14]   Shai : perfect RM
[10:14]   Shai : that is the range extension target above 7752
[10:15]   r m : Thanks Shai!
[10:15]   Shai : Loushik should be visisble soon
[10:16]   r m : Guys you can’t see me but I jumped around with joy on getting Shai’s approval, getting 100 points in a trade (which is a rare event) does not make me so happy 🙂
[10:16]   Varun : 🙂
[10:16]   Uttam : 🙂 super RM
[10:16]   Varun : and shai just rted my plan on twitter 😉
[10:16]   Varun : says thts hw u shkld do it
[10:16]   r m : @Varun, congrats man 🙂
[10:16]   Uttam : so we are in for some Friday celebrations 🙂
[10:16]   Uttam : good going guys
[10:17]   Uttam : Varun & RM
[10:17]   r m : @Uttam, price is the king, these are just the plans 🙂
[10:17]   Varun : give tht 19600 buyer a honbll eit
[10:17]   Varun : exit
[10:17]   Varun : he is stuck fr 30 mins now
[10:18]   Uttam : that buyer is @ 7840?
[10:19]   Varun : no at 50 odd
[10:19]   Uttam : oh ok
[10:19]   Varun : 9.40 candle
[10:19]   Varun : he exits and we rally
[10:20]   Uttam : great
[10:24]   Sandeep : shai do we have any calls here
[10:24]   Sandeep : joined in late
[10:25]   r m : none so far
[10:25]   Sandeep : okay
[10:26]   r m : Calls are saved in second tab from right, the red one
[10:26]   Sandeep : ya
[10:40]   Rahul P : what is this grey bar ?
[10:40]   RK : Rahul when volumes exceeds that MA blue line, its highlighted with grey bar
[10:41]   Shai : Sell NF 7832 sl of 7857 tgt 7792
[10:42]   Tejpreet : Bboth ib break done between 1015-45.
[10:43]   Augustin : Kris would have gone long now 🙂
[10:43]   Nandesh : i have long position in nifty based on Hypo.. should i continue or come out
[10:45]   RK : Shai FA at top?
[10:46]   RK : nope..pls skip the question
[10:47]   Shai : Nandesh can trade it if you can – add lower or keep a new buy abv 7855
[10:47]   Nandesh : k
[10:48]   Uttam : this short trade can be reversed to long if SL goes?
[10:48]   Shai : yes
[10:48]   Uttam : thanks Shai
[10:49]   Shai : current trade is below vwap so a little weak nothing major though
[10:50]   Shai : that 1st estimate of the hypo was 7881 went to 7878 at the open
[10:50]   Kiran : Shai how to interprete the blue MA in volume pane? middle , 5 min
[10:50]   RK : logically Hypo 1 done
[10:50]   Shai : yeah new strength to be seen abv 7881
[10:51]   Srini A : @Shai, Will target for BNF be 16530?
[10:51]   RK : may be if we get good buyers at lows who can take this up
[10:51]   Shai : Srini 16550
[10:51]   Shai : Kiran that is 1.6 times of the current vol of last 5 candles
[10:51]   Srini A : ok, Thanks Shai
[10:53]   Kiran : ok
[10:55]   Kiran : NF that MA is incresing, BNF it is decreasing, just observing
[11:00]   Nandesh : if a stock open above yesterday vwap and for 30min trade above current then fall back yesterday vwap and now trading above it… what should one think will it remain in uptrend or else??
[11:03]   Kiran : BNF if slips below the buyers then big fall ? 30 min
[11:10]   Shai : Nandesh vwap moving hgher means buyers are buying, sometimes the previous vwap also acts as supp
[11:11]   Shai : Book 50% NF at 7812 rest at 7834
[11:12]   Ashish : seller at bottom in daily
[11:14]   Shai : yes for now but if you noted at 7830 it turned white before the fall
[11:15]   Shai : was all greens this morning
[11:15]   R Goel : so shai he was neutralized
[11:15]   Ashish : yes…so bears are ruling it now..
[11:15]   Shai : vwap is the correct sl now for short view being spike highs also
[11:16]   Shai : we may have a tail above and an IB extension below IBL for the bear with support at spike lows of 7785 with the bull now
[11:17]   Shai : intra day NF can trade back to vwap as spike is green
[11:18]   RK : but volumes support bears here Shai?
[11:18]   Shai : for now yes RK still reds abv KRA
[11:19]   RK : fine
[11:19]   Girish : so, now bearish for the day – NF and BNF – both, Shai ?
[11:20]   Shai : yes till below vwap slight adv to bear
[11:20]   Girish : okay
[11:22]   Shai : looking for sellers near 7832
[11:22]   Shai : 7807 is all buying
[11:23]   Ashish : even the red is neutralised..
[11:25]   Shai : I don’t trade the Varun setup of the vol spike at vwap bands , but just a few observations I have jotted over 2 weeks
[11:26]   Shai : 1) we have a qulaifier for that vol bar on screen which should be abv the blue MA of vols – that is there
[11:26]   RK : perfect
[11:26]   Shai : 2) works faster when the lows holds the POC of that 5 min vol spike bar
[11:26]   Shai : 3) sl is ofcourse he lows of that 5 mins bar + samll filter
[11:27]   Shai : 4) tgt is the high of the 5 min bar if vwap is not close by or vwap
[11:27]   Shai : 5) trend can change if we cross the high of the 5 min bar (if at lows) and showing greens and vice versa
[11:27]   Vikkas C : golden points shai 😀 thanx
[11:28]   Shai : For all you fast finger guys, as you know my fingers play games with me 🙂
[11:28]   Ashish : Good observation Captain 🙂
[11:29]   RK : apart from bands, when you get spikes, then it should be some ref point like VAH,VAL,PDH etc.otherwise better to skip it
[11:29]   Ashish : +1 Rk
[11:29]   Tejpreet : Thanks Shai for sharing the details ……Ithink this setup works better in nifty than BN …or maybe my bias as I trade more of nifty:)
[11:29]   RK : or could be dev values
[11:29]   Shai : yes and vwap too- yesterday 2 spikes at vwap
[11:30]   RK : very imp fac is that auction happens at those ref points hence spike..
[11:30]   RK : fact
[11:30]   Shai : Thanks Vikkas, Ashish 🙂
[11:31]   RK : but very very important is, you should be prepared enough to hit SL when spike fails..if you forget to blink when trade fails, then it makes deep hole in the account :))
[11:31]   Shai : ah yes. these guys spiking it up/ down are big players not the avg joe kind
[11:32]   Uttam : thanks Shai will make a note & go thru the points again to understand the concept
[11:32]   Ashish : better put stoploss after initiating the trade straighaway
[11:32]   Shai : back t the auction , that buyer has a job to do at IBL and vwap
[11:32]   Uttam : buyers of 7807 under threat>
[11:32]   Shai : will be forced out if we stay below IBL
[11:34]   Porus : What is ibh, ibl and vwap for nf? CAnt see charts due to internet issue.
[11:34]   Misaal : Spot made a new low. NF didnt
[11:35]   RK : Porus 7878/7827/2836
[11:35]   RK : 7836
[11:35]   Porus : thnks rk
[11:35]   RK : Welcome
[11:44]   Tejpreet : Bn does that spike move vol + vwap bnad + poc at low
[11:44]   Vikkas C : but the 1st @ 11.10 was a fail right
[11:44]   Bhagya : 7800-7810 tough zone to break for intraday. Bulls will hold it
[11:45]   Vikkas C : so how to decide which one to take and which to avoid
[11:45]   Bhagya : Also today selling from higher level is responsive selling and not initiative
[11:45]   Tejpreet : POC at 1110 is not exactly at lows
[11:45]   Vikkas C : so u mean take only those in which POC is closer to bottom
[11:46]   Tejpreet : This one gives 20 points in 17000 call
[11:46]   Vikkas C : trgt is was also the high of that candle naa..which is also achieved in futures
[11:47]   Ashish : I think take those whose low is above POC of that 5 minute bar
[11:48]   Tejpreet : Yes Ashish
[11:48]   Ashish : 11:26 Shai : 2) works faster when the lows holds the POC of that 5 min vol spike bar
[11:49]   Vikkas C : but wasnt that the case @ 11.10 bar as well
[11:50]   Vikkas C : nope
[11:50]   Vikkas C : avoid answering
[11:51]   Ashish : Let’s see next spike for more clarity
[11:51]   Vikkas C : 🙂
[11:51]   Tejpreet : Or Vikkas let us keep a filte poc should be in last 3 rows 🙂
[11:52]   RK : Vikkas also noticing trap of volume at such spike I think will help..if no trap then chances of failure for spike
[11:53]   RK : this point is very helpful especially when such spikes happen in last 1 hr
[11:53]   RK : people are desparate to move with that fast move and get trapped
[11:54]   Vikkas C : thanx RK
[11:56]   Ashish : Pink turning to green now
[11:56]   Srini A : +1 RK for that observation. Very deceptive indeed. I still remember that spike to 8250 to 8330 on 21st Aug.
[11:57]   RK : me too remember that for holding shorts with strong foot to make a killing on Monday open 🙂
[11:58]   Srini A : 🙂 Also regret closing at 8009. Rest they say is history!
[11:59]   Kiran : Tejpreet, when do u take enty to the trade ? after the candle complete ? or price near POC of candle in next 2/3 candles ?
[12:00]   Kiran : so BNF 11:30 candle if you explain please.
[12:00]   RK : this is what I read, biggies want to test supply before initiating big positions..they deploy some % in opposite direction to check strenth and by doing such, they clear for eg shorts out of system and then deploy remaining funds to create original posn at peak so that when it goes in their direction they have less resistance..dont know if this is practically right but logically I buy this argument as gone through this many times 🙂
[12:01]   Ashish : Maybe this is the case today.
[12:02]   Ashish : 7860 resisted 2 times in 3 days, so biggies will pull it off before close if they want to take out this level.
[12:03]   Srini A : Sounds quite logical @RK
[12:04]   Tejpreet : iran as I play for just few points i do not wait for completion and frankly i found this process vry tedious …you cannot focus on anything else 🙂
[12:04]   Tejpreet : Kiran
[12:04]   Kiran : ok
[12:05]   RK : Tej indeed tedious..I gave up 🙂
[12:06]   r m : @Tej, I don’t even see the numbers most of the times because of net issues so the method was stillborn for me 🙂
[12:07]   Tejpreet : But it is good those who trade nifty only …buy ITM option 3-4 sl 8-10 target .
[12:09]   Kiran : i was looking for a method for quick 15 min trades and close the terminal type, as not possible to do full time. most of the time the good calls are not enetered.
[12:16]   Anay : @rm started true data trial o Ninja
[12:16]   Anay : 😀
[12:16]   Anay : how to setup tpo chart?
[12:17]   Vikkas C : haha anay join the gang
[12:17]   Vikkas C : i just chewed his brains on the same
[12:17]   Vikkas C : :p
[12:18]   r m : lol
[12:19]   r m : @Vikkas, just mail that TPO template to Anay, that should do the trick 🙂
[12:19]   Vikkas C : ok tm
[12:19]   Vikkas C : rm
[12:20]   r m : @Anay, you need to download TPO indicator trial from fin-alg.com as well
[12:20]   Vikkas C : anay email id pls
[12:20]   Anay : ok
[12:20]   Anay : anay.ashirgade@gmail.com
[12:21]   Vikkas C : sent anay 🙂
[12:21]   r m : fast work guys, now I know how you can trade those fast setups 🙂
[12:21]   Vikkas C : 😉
[12:21]   Anay : got it. thanks
[12:22]   Vikkas C : all thanx to rm
[12:22]   Shai : 🙂
[12:22]   Shai : That means you guys will finish off GDFL
[12:22]   Vikkas C : haha shai
[12:23]   RK : 🙂
[12:23]   r m : GDFL is dead because they don’t offer cash and indices and were selling because of TINA factor only 🙂
[12:23]   Shai : no indices?
[12:24]   Ashish : TINa ???
[12:24]   Tejpreet : And most iimp RM is the true data customer support …just awesome !
[12:24]   RK : Shai these Truedata guys are really helpful and resourcefull..After RM’s push me too tried trial but yet to go for subscription..will do soon
[12:24]   r m : TINA – there is no alternative 🙂
[12:24]   Ashish : hahaha RM…
[12:24]   Tejpreet : Like there is no TINA for RM 😉
[12:24]   r m : Yes Shai, when I used them they were giving only Nifty future and no Nifty index!
[12:25]   Shai : Good to know RK- Esignal is also bad but thankfully they don’t make me approach them many times ina year
[12:26]   Prakash : euro to open +ve
[12:27]   r m : @Shai, we should suggest to Kapil of Truedata to provide data for Marketdelta and Investor RT too, then your BNF options and stock options problem will be solved, these guys have everything 🙂
[12:27]   r m : and using the same esignal plugin which esignal says does not support BNF options 🙂
[12:31]   Shai : How can reach him?
[12:31]   Girish : for non-Market profile users, GDFL is still the only option, right?
[12:33]   r m : he answers all mails, support@truedata.in, just mark the mail to him
[12:33]   r m : 91-7304-22-44-66
[12:34]   Tejpreet : Too grey vol spike bar in bn
[12:34]   Tejpreet : two
[12:34]   r m : yep, frantic activity
[12:34]   Tejpreet : Looks like closing hours will be real volatile.
[12:38]   Shai : Thanks RM
[12:38]   r m : welcome
[12:39]   Anay : @rm and Vikkas – got the TPO chart running. thanks 🙂
[12:39]   r m : welcome 🙂
[12:39]   Uttam : now NF getting 2 grey areas
[12:40]   RK : VWAP doing vice versa of yday.resisting price..and 12.30 now..lets see if we get similar candle of yday to decide rest of the day’s action..
[12:44]   Shai : vol spike at lows
[12:44]   Uttam : 88725 buyer?
[12:45]   Uttam : exit shorts?
[12:45]   Shai : yes
[12:45]   Shai : can exit and put an order to reshort below 7781
[12:45]   Shai : iffy 20 points here but seller stays in control below IBL/ vwap
[12:48]   RK : after entering into spike zone it never traded above spike high
[12:49]   RK : same time spike base also saved
[12:50]   Uttam : yep so 7790 will be the level to watch but has been below vwap & IBL most of the time
[12:52]   Rahul P : big buyer again at lows
[12:52]   Uttam : again vol spike @ low in NF?
[12:53]   RK : if red increases during such spike, then all shorts or long unwinding..contra buy should be initiated only when Red neutralises and then next bar shows green..
[12:54]   Kiran : BNF seeler at bottom
[12:55]   RK : hardly a green till now so better avoid buy
[12:55]   Shai : looking for yesterday buyers
[12:55]   RK : and always better to initate a trade on the first spike at certain level..I think this is 3rd spike around this level..
[12:55]   Varun : rk fast learner
[12:55]   Varun : 🙂
[12:55]   Varun : jst logges in
[12:55]   Varun : lgd in
[12:56]   RK : Man nothing before your speed 🙂
[12:56]   Varun : 🙂
[12:56]   Varun : tej must have bohgt at this spike
[12:57]   RK : VArun if you lose this low, then I will ask Shai to confirm weekly close for 7660 # day dream 🙂
[12:57]   Shai : our tgt was the anomaly as well as spike lows
[12:57]   Tejpreet : 3 rd time 7800 call at 157
[12:57]   Shai : auction changes gears if we move below
[12:57]   Varun : yes
[12:57]   Varun : wills how u guys some thinf
[12:57]   RK : Shai anomaly from yday move?
[12:58]   Shai : yes 7791
[12:58]   RK : ok..
[12:58]   Shai : 10:41) Shai :Sell NF 7832 sl of 7857 tgt 7792
[12:58]   Varun : https://twitter.com/sweetspottrader/status/641973486555041792/photo/1
[12:58]   Varun : this spike is knows as st
[12:58]   Varun : everything is pre planned
[13:00]   RK : VArun yes very hard to stay without a plan..Plan gives courage despite any kind of moves
[13:00]   Varun : if 90 goes yesterdays bullish goes neutral
[13:00]   Prakash : @varun st = spike + volume up ?
[13:01]   Varun : spike is a volume climax
[13:01]   Varun : move
[13:02]   Shai : enough greens are here
[13:02]   Shai : book out all NF shorts
[13:05]   Koushik : can buy some calls here? sl 7790?
[13:05]   Shai : sl will be 7780
[13:05]   Koushik : ok
[13:15]   Shai : knocking at spike lows
[13:15]   Shai : that seller 1.95 is creating pressure
[13:16]   RK : he will get a company if this stays here now
[13:16]   Shai : can slide below 7780
[13:17]   Shai : Keep a new NF sell below 7775 sl of 7805 tgt 7741/ 7706
[13:18]   Shai : could mean a close near 7706
[13:19]   Anay : BNF below 550
[13:19]   RK : that seller getting good counter
[13:20]   Anay : spike low being defended
[13:23]   Rahul P : will the 2.24 be a stuck seller ?
[13:24]   RK : part of it
[13:24]   RK : check 30 miin
[13:27]   Koushik : 7780 was a grt sl shai saved me, able to cut at cost now
[13:28]   Vikkas C : sorry missed everything today ..was out
[13:28]   Vikkas C : what trade is on here in NF and BNF ?
[13:28]   RK : flat Vikkas
[13:28]   Vikkas C : ahhh.
[13:29]   Shai : Can buy NF for 7840/ 7870 cmp 7805 sl of 7880- go with 50% qty
[13:29]   Shai : sl 7780
[13:30]   Vikkas C : 🙂
[13:31]   Shai : delayed response from spike lows- that seller cam estrong to counter
[13:31]   Shai : but now path up to 7840 at least is smooth
[13:35]   Rahul P : something wrng with system? cannot view anything
[13:35]   RK : charts down
[13:36]   Shai : up now
[13:36]   RK : yes
[13:36]   RK : 34k trapped
[13:36]   Uttam : yep charts showing now
[13:38]   RK : glad my long was behind him 🙂
[13:38]   Vikkas C : 🙂
[13:39]   RK : many days my buy or sell remains high low of the day in some stocks 🙂
[13:40]   Shai : But really Nice trading RK
[13:41]   Shai : Best of the week was RK stating here at 7565 that he had clsoed all shorts
[13:41]   RK : Shai 🙂
[13:41]   Shai : that is precision
[13:41]   r m : 🙂
[13:42]   Uttam : great RK 🙂 #applause
[13:42]   RK : that was the second occasion I gone clean slate after 24 Aug morning 🙂
[13:42]   r m : he even took a week’s off after that I think 🙂
[13:42]   Augustin : Well done, RK…
[13:42]   Tejpreet : RK Cheers !
[13:42]   Anay : Way to go RK!
[13:42]   RK : RM that off was after gap down on 24th Aug..
[13:42]   Srini A : That was a class act RK 🙂
[13:42]   r m : ok 🙂
[13:42]   RK : oh thanks mates 🙂
[13:43]   Vikkas C : rk apne stock mkt ka srk hai boss 😀
[13:44]   Vikkas C : banks seeing buying again
[13:44]   RK : that 8565 closing was because of two things..one is MO which I learnt only after joining here..and next was Shai’s major support was close by..so when such down day closes at such low, chances for ST bottom..so quit all 🙂
[13:45]   Vikkas C : 7565
[13:45]   RK : Man yes 7565 🙂
[13:45]   Vikkas C : haha
[13:46]   Kathir : @vikkas 8565 is where he went short
[13:47]   RK : Kathir yes that was close to 8550 but that time I was in deep under water due to heavy whips around 8600 🙂
[13:47]   Kathir : yeah remember RK
[13:53]   Vikkas C : 🙂
[13:54]   Vikkas C : shai can 45 play out in bnf
[13:54]   Vikkas C : with DPOC not shofting down
[13:54]   Vikkas C : *shifting
[13:55]   RK : we have IIP nos today evening
[13:55]   Vikkas C : so rk all the more reason to close at the highs cos ppl again will think of a rate cut and buy and go
[13:56]   RK : Vikkas I feel retails have beceome smart and not getting trapped in a big way! 🙂
[13:56]   RK : become
[13:57]   Shai : BNf barely holding up abv 540
[13:58]   Shai : 7812/ 16575 were the POC of last week. Being a weekly close we may just stall up here in next 90 mins
[13:58]   RK : Vikkas considering meet in couple of weeks I dont expect any interim cut
[13:59]   Shai : Rk he has cut without meets before
[13:59]   Shai : chances are he may react to FED the next day
[13:59]   RK : but he will atleast wait for Fed Shai 🙂
[13:59]   RK : yes
[13:59]   Shai : yes after FED
[13:59]   Sandeep : when is fed meet
[14:00]   r m : 17th SEP
[14:01]   Sandeep : okay
[14:01]   Sandeep : thanks
[14:01]   Uttam : thursday right?
[14:01]   Uttam : on Friday we are open so it will be post FED meet
[14:01]   Uttam : thursday markets are closes
[14:01]   Uttam : closed
[14:01]   r m : yes, 23:30 IST
[14:02]   Uttam : Shai here short below 7775 is still active right?
[14:02]   Shai : yes
[14:03]   RK : this 30 min candle full of reds
[14:03]   Shai : yes we will react on 18th Morning
[14:04]   Shai : exit the NF 50% if sl goes
[14:04]   Aayush : short for 7775 is valid na
[14:04]   Uttam : have kept the SL @ 7774 itself for the 50% long & will reverse there
[14:08]   RK : seems that 34k top buyer quit at last candle low 🙂
[14:08]   Shai : from vwap?
[14:08]   RK : Yes Shai around 7821 we had 34K
[14:09]   RK : buyer
[14:09]   Shai : poor lows sl is not safe we have to exit the long trade and rethink abv vwap or IBL
[14:11]   Shai : Exit NF longs near cost here but keep that sell below 7755 open
[14:11]   Uttam : 7775 right
[14:11]   Aayush : 7775*
[14:11]   Shai : 7775**
[14:21]   Uttam : done
[14:31]   Varun : shai/rm do we have abell curve 9/10/11 combine
[14:31]   Varun : 7690/7870
[14:33]   Shai : not a perfect D needs auction 7780- 7740
[14:33]   Varun : tht could be the tail or excess of it
[14:33]   RK : Shai today is b..right?
[14:34]   Shai : today is b
[14:34]   Shai : with tail so far on top
[14:35]   r m : will become a bell if NF visits 7720 😀
[14:35]   r m : http://screencast.com/t/MvYCoz9r
[14:35]   Shai : NF 3 days- http://screencast.com/t/q0JbjIwB
[14:36]   Shai : RM’s curves are better 🙂
[14:36]   r m : lol
[14:36]   Vikkas C : so brk of 7775 and u get 7720 for sure
[14:36]   RK : RM lol..let me offer a Remy then to you if that happens 🙂
[14:36]   Shai : Could hit that por low
[14:36]   Varun : lower hald need auction
[14:36]   Shai : weekly closing move
[14:36]   Shai : eiher that POC or down to 7720/ 50 again
[14:37]   Shai : (13:58) Shai :7812/ 16575 were the POC of last week. Being a weekly close we may just stall up here in next 90 mins
[14:37]   Varun : break below 80 puts us in lower half auction
[14:39]   Varun : so 7820 or 7720 could be on below 80
[14:45]   Rahul P : whats the vwap for the day ??
[14:45]   Vikkas C : 7820
[14:53]   Varun : vwap poc nt alligned
[14:53]   Varun : koi toh move lao yaar
[14:54]   Augustin : Even the ppl watching their terminals havent moved 🙂
[14:55]   r m : Who was talking about fryday, let us fry him 🙂
[14:55]   Augustin : LOL..
[14:56]   Shai : response from Kapil to my mail- http://screencast.com/t/ZCkF39z0cC
[14:57]   Vikkas C : anf the move in bnf @rk
[14:57]   Shai : key is that fin-algo marketng if you guys intersted- approach him
[14:57]   Uttam : Varun, your spike is here
[14:58]   Tejpreet : 🙂
[14:58]   Varun : wanted it below 80
[14:58]   Varun : nt trading it
[14:59]   r m : That is good news Shai, thanks!
[15:00]   Uttam : doji close on both NF & BNF looks like
[15:00]   Tejpreet : Shai this look like SC for the week .
[15:02]   Gaurav : Safe to carry some 8000 calls bought at 65 into Monday opening ?
[15:03]   Vikkas C : shai was this 45 in bnf playing out
[15:03]   Vikkas C : sorry for asking again
[15:04]   Vikkas C : but the DPOC shifted down with this spike up
[15:04]   Shai : Gaurav resistance still there up
[15:05]   RK : close here opens equal chance for 7950 or 7650 next week 🙂
[15:06]   Shai : Vikkas profile is balanced and move has come back to vwap
[15:06]   r m : maybe both too, before and after FED 🙂
[15:06]   Gaurav : Ok Shai thanks
[15:06]   Vikkas C : ok shai thanx
[15:06]   RK : its always like that only RM 🙂
[15:06]   Vikkas C : i got in 560 abd exited at 700
[15:07]   Vikkas C : lol
[15:07]   r m : good one Vikkas!
[15:07]   Vikkas C : no no RM..thank u
[15:09]   Girish : Cheers everyone ! Have a nice weekend !
[15:09]   Anay : @Shai so wait for Sierra charts before going for fin-alg plugin? 😉
[15:11]   Ashish : This spike is failed one….. who the hell spiked it
[15:11]   Shai : Sierra is good also
[15:11]   Ashish : Sierra is good guys, i am using it
[15:12]   Uttam : Varun did not take part in it so it fizzled out
[15:12]   Varun : 🙂
[15:12]   Shai : poor lows in danger
[15:13]   RK : Gap down bt close at opposite extreme with spike.Next day enter spike to spend entire day bt spike it down at close again#How to kill retails 🙂
[15:13]   Shai : excpt for that first 30 mins the full day auction is in the spike which is a form of acceptance
[15:14]   Uttam : whao reverse spike also coming up….Varun is that you?
[15:14]   Ashish : It ios a fry-day
[15:14]   Vikkas C : damnnnnnnn
[15:14]   Vikkas C : whatta move
[15:14]   Ashish : shorted @ vwap 🙂
[15:15]   RK : Man why these guys spike it now..they have to deal the spike on Monday otherwise am in trouble 🙂
[15:15]   Shai : if short put part booking order 7750
[15:15]   Rahul P : cheating
[15:15]   Anay : @Shai and Ashish ok
[15:15]   Vikkas C : this is crazy
[15:16]   Uttam : no shorts cancelled the orders @ 15:10
[15:16]   Misaal : Yesterdays Mirror
[15:16]   Shai : ok- don’t get in now- just the weekly inventory playing
[15:16]   Koushik : shuld we carry the short?
[15:16]   Shai : no
[15:16]   Uttam : But will this probe mean that it is no longer a poor low?
[15:17]   Koushik : oh cutting
[15:17]   Shai : spike again
[15:17]   Shai : generally spikes we d not carry
[15:17]   Ashish : Shai, do we have a hint there…that trapped short at bottom
[15:17]   Vikkas C : shai daily again shows selling at top buyer at bottom
[15:17]   Ashish : had*
[15:18]   Shai : the late buyers are holding
[15:18]   Varun : vah buyers
[15:18]   Shai : may pop up bac to 7820 mon
[15:18]   Varun : if vah goes we 80 %
[15:18]   Varun : 12 mins
[15:18]   Varun : wld be touigh
[15:20]   Tejpreet : Shai chances of gap down look brighter with this bounce from VAH to trap these longs.
[15:21]   Shai : still into that 7550- 7850 range
[15:21]   Varun : actually now its all msessy for next week
[15:21]   Varun : full on wipsaws
[15:21]   Shai : if short sl has to be abv 7850
[15:21]   Varun : slow moves
[15:21]   Varun : and rotations
[15:21]   Varun : we mite repair the lower half of last 3 days
[15:21]   Varun : 7690/7870
[15:22]   Shai : yeah I also feel we hea to 7670 ealy next week with maybe one more visist near 7810 on mOn
[15:23]   Shai : sl about 7870 F
[15:23]   Varun : if we wer bullish we shld have utilised yesterday spike
[15:24]   Varun : and developed on it
[15:24]   Varun : instead gave it all
[15:24]   Varun : with max time blow ibl
[15:24]   Kiran : on wed the rise got sold off n we got gap down on thu. same today ?
[15:25]   Vikkas C : so isnt it good time to pick some puts and go
[15:25]   Vikkas C : for monday mrng is better
[15:25]   Uttam : yep today bulls did a bad job as Varun puts it but Friday’s generally gives confusing signals?
[15:25]   Varun : break of 60 will take to 20 and 7690
[15:25]   Varun : 80 %
[15:25]   Varun : better watch forst 15 min on monday
[15:26]   Varun : as this spike could be just poor low rerapir
[15:26]   Varun : now auction is complete for today
[15:26]   Vikkas C : hmm agreed
[15:26]   Varun : else thr was unfinished business at lows
[15:26]   Shai : that poor low got tested
[15:26]   Shai : now that 7780 seller is bigger
[15:27]   Shai : was 2L when we came down around 2
[15:30]   Anay : byeall
[15:30]   RK : thanks and bye all
[15:30]   Srini A : Bye All
[15:30]   Shai : bye all
[15:30]   Soumya : bye all
[15:30]   Shai : Have a nice weekend
[15:30]   r m : Thanks and bye folks, have a great weekend 🙂
[15:30]   Shai : catch up mon
[15:30]   Koushik : bye all
[15:30]   Vikkas C : bye all & happy weekend
[15:30]   Uttam : have a nice weekend all
[15:30]   Porus : bye all
[15:31]   Kathir : thanks and bye all
[15:31]   Ashish : Thanks and bye all
[15:31]   Chandrashekhar : bye all, have a great weekend
[15:31]   Tejpreet : Bye All

[09:31]   Gaurav : M&M perfect resistance so far as you said couple of days back Shai 🙂
[09:33]   r m : Perfect is Shai’s middle name 😀
[09:35]   Gaurav : 🙂
[09:38]   Sandeep : shai, your views on Yes bank postnl
[09:41]   Gaurav : ICICI intra view please
[09:43]   Uttam : Shai levels for Reliance please
[09:51]   Shai : haha RM if only everything went on the right path…. 🙂
[09:51]   r m : 🙂
[09:51]   Shai : Yesbank good abv 704 but see 732 as supply can do 790 if crossed
[09:52]   Ashish : Shai, Ashokleyland targets on upside?
[09:53]   Shai : icici 268 weekly res but support is decent at 264- can trade long abv 269 with that supp for 273/ 275
[09:54]   Shai : RIL 865 supp on day res 876.7
[09:54]   Uttam : thanks Shai
[09:54]   Shai : 91 in ashok ley and 96.4 if close abv 91 today
[09:54]   Gaurav : Thanks Shai
[09:55]   Shai : 88 now a strmg supp in ashok ley
[09:55]   Ashish : Thanks Shai
[10:12]   Nandesh : ur intraday view on sail
[10:14]   Ashish : Shai, SRTRANSFIN resistance level?
[10:17]   Shai : sail watch 53.2 if it stays below 53.2 can drop to 51.6 intra
[10:17]   Shai : 53.4 res
[10:18]   Nandesh : ok
[10:19]   Shai : srt good abv 859 – trade may see 904 staying abv 877 today
[10:22]   Gaurav : Bank of Baroda is in steroids today. Looking to do 190-95?
[10:24]   Ashish : Thanks Shai
[10:36]   Shai : ye s191 possible in 1- 2 sessions if close abv 178
[10:41]   Gaurav : Thank You
[10:49]   Uttam : Shai Reliance trading below 865, better to exit longs?
[10:55]   Shai : RIL doing the 80% – val is 859
[10:55]   Shai : yes slightly weak below 865 on intra
[10:55]   Uttam : yep so SL for longs could be below yesterday’s low?
[10:56]   Uttam : for 80% it needs to trade within VA for at least 30 mins is it to go short or the moment it enters VAH after opening out of range, we could go shorts?
[10:56]   Uttam : short?
[10:56]   Shai : the big buyer is 852 so sl still below 850 on postnl
[10:57]   Uttam : oh okies, thanks will have the original SL of 848 then
[11:37]   Uttam : Reliance playing out the 80% rule, made a low of 856.2 in cash
[11:57]   Ashish : Shai, ZEEL is good to short, looking weak now
[12:02]   Shai : yes it is – may do 386 intra weak below 399
[12:02]   Ashish : Thanks Shai
[12:04]   RK : my two indicators showing contra signals..HDFC breaking highs and Axis breaking lows 🙂
[12:04]   Gaurav : Shai ONGC and CAIRN positional please.
[12:05]   Tejpreet : Yes RK Axis has been a big dissapointment in this BN move.
[12:07]   RK : It was laying golden eggs for me in this entire run..has captured almost entire down move though on and off some times in the bounce play 🙂
[12:09]   Tejpreet : Yes RK you are a man with patience ….we don’t let the eggs hatch …the moment we sell them 🙂
[12:09]   Tejpreet : we see them we sell them
[12:11]   RK : lol..but I too get 70% of the times rotten eggs..but true that sitting with those rotten ones I get the opportunity of 30% golden eggs which are much worth compared to 70% rotten 🙂
[12:12]   Tejpreet : 🙂
[12:14]   Kathir : @RK I am searching for a hen 🙂
[12:15]   r m : @Kathir, best is carry your own gold, plate the egg with it, then sell the hen to investors showing them the golden egg it lays 😀
[12:15]   Shai : ongc building a nice base- should run abv 232.5 for 243/ 255
[12:15]   RK : lol RM are you talking about spikes? 🙂
[12:16]   Kathir : lol
[12:16]   r m : no!
[12:16]   Shai : cairn weak 142 is supp may test 146 today
[12:18]   r m : @RK, just a humoros respose to Kathir’s search for gold egg laying hen 😀
[12:18]   RK : 🙂
[12:19]   Kathir : @RM easy was is to take away RK’s hen 🙂 he is running a poultry farm 🙂
[12:20]   r m : lol
[12:20]   r m : That is usually a wolf’s job 🙂
[12:21]   Kathir : wolf of dalal street 🙂
[12:21]   r m : lol
[12:23]   RK : lol
[12:31]   Uttam : ashokley holding 88 pretty well today, Shai 🙂
[12:33]   Gaurav : HINDZINC Intra views please
[12:48]   Shai : hind xinc nearing supp at 129.7 a break below can drop it to 124.8/ 119.7
[13:52]   Soumya : Shai can you please check NSE: SOBHA
[13:55]   Shai : what’s up with the vol in sobha?
[13:56]   Shai : headed to 297
[13:56]   Shai : sl below 265 clsing basis
[14:10]   Soumya : Heard RJ and Amal Parikh bought it
[14:10]   Soumya : Lot of bulk deals happening in real estate companies it seems
[14:12]   Shai : thaks
[14:12]   Shai : yes heard quite a few people saying thats ector has bottomed
[14:21]   Uttam : reliance showing strenght here
[14:25]   Chandrashekhar : few days back somebody said here they are going to buy amtke auto 30 CE at 3, see the price now
[14:27]   Kathir : WOW it ws me and tej discussed ..but tej bought and exited I guess
[14:27]   Tejpreet : That is what RK meant by golden eggs 🙂
[14:28]   Kathir : yeah 🙂
[14:28]   Tejpreet : 2.90 in 4.50 odd out …what is it now
[14:28]   Chandrashekhar : 9+
[14:28]   Tejpreet : Amazing !
[14:28]   Kathir : 10.5 mow
[14:28]   Tejpreet : Was your pick Kathir …
[14:29]   r m : wow! Congrats Tejpreet, Kathir 🙂
[14:29]   Vikkas C : and u guys even said it as a lottery calll 😀
[14:29]   Kathir : No tej I had an idea and asked shai about the levels but I did not buy the CE 🙂
[14:29]   Tejpreet : Exited before it could turn golde n (14:28) Tejpreet :2.90 in 4.50 odd out …what is it now
[14:29]   r m : @Kathir, Guru only teach others, they are selfless 🙂
[14:30]   Tejpreet : Yes Vikkas my idea was no SL .
[14:30]   Vikkas C : yes tej
[14:30]   RK : this is what pain is 🙂
[14:30]   Kathir : 🙂 RM you are the guru here
[14:30]   Vikkas C : u yet holding or exit
[14:30]   r m : lol
[14:31]   Tejpreet : True RK but am ok with my daily scalps ….no Vikkas exited at 4.50
[14:31]   Kathir : @RK yes normally i dont look at stocks but something attracted me from Amtek ..so asked shai the levels…:) That ce idea was Tej’s
[14:32]   RK : Tej I know but what I meant is about bad exits hurt for some time 🙂
[14:32]   Vikkas C : kya yaar tej ..u said zero stop and exited at 4.50 🙁
[14:32]   RK : but there was some Sebi probe news right..still it made such move!
[14:33]   RK : or was that some other company?
[14:33]   Vikkas C : yes rk.. infact even before the stock started to crash it was in ban period so someone had an idea before hand
[14:33]   Tejpreet : Yes RK you are positional and that is the way it should be but i do not have the temprament to hold positions especailly overnight …would be awkae tracking dow sg x:)
[14:33]   Vikkas C : and built solid shorts in it
[14:35]   RK : nope thats perfect Tej..what you do is a great skill..end of the day we all should make money thats it 🙂
[14:35]   Tejpreet : Yes perfect RK 🙂
[14:35]   RK : and from that view 3 to 4.5 is a very nice trade..I agree ..
[14:37]   Vikkas C : 50% profit 😀
[14:37]   Vikkas C : too difficult to make in any other business 😉
[14:37]   Tejpreet : Yes Vikkas
[14:38]   Vikkas C : hats off to all the participants here ..all different strategy with only one motto ..solid bank balance 😀
[14:40]   Kathir : 🙂
[14:41]   Soumya : any signs of bottoming out from charts shai?
[14:41]   r m : @Vikkas, Sabka saath Sabke Bank account ka Vikaas 🙂
[14:41]   Vikkas C : souyma kyun bottom pakdne mein lage ho ..keep trading naa 😉
[14:41]   Vikkas C : hahah RM
[14:42]   Vikkas C : *soumya
[14:42]   Tejpreet : RM you need to translate that for some of our friends here !
[14:43]   r m : @Tejpreet, Modi has made that one so popular that even John Cary knew how to say it 🙂
[14:44]   Vikkas C : hahahahahha
[14:44]   Tejpreet : Hahahha
[14:44]   Vikkas C : RM in full form today
[14:44]   Kathir : whats that means RM
[14:46]   Vikkas C : everyone together everone bank account also increases
[14:50]   Kathir : oh ok thanks vikkas
[14:50]   r m : அனைத்து வளர்ச்சி அனைத்து
[14:51]   r m : Now you tell me Kathir if this is the correct translation 🙂
[14:51]   Kathir : lol RM..that is more suitable for politicians
[14:51]   r m : lol
[14:51]   Soumya : Vikkas bhai just trying to see why these big shorts are all after real estate
[14:51]   Anay : Amtek 65% up. lol
[14:52]   Kathir : no RM it translated the exact meaning of that word
[14:52]   Vikkas C : saal amtek ka call meine kyun nahi liya ..:(
[14:52]   RK : Anay thats insane 🙂
[14:52]   Tejpreet : Better than jine liys or bech diya 🙂
[14:52]   r m : lol
[14:53]   Kathir : ce 3 to 33 now 🙁
[14:53]   Vikkas C : lol
[14:53]   Vikkas C : whatttttttt
[14:53]   Vikkas C : 30rs ce naa
[14:53]   Gaurav : Best is 50 ce Amtek
[14:53]   Kathir : the best part is when we started discussing about amtek few mins before that ce was 11 only 🙂
[14:54]   RK : I checked at 9.50
[14:54]   r m : Varun was saying last time also that Amtek promoters have no money issue
[14:54]   Vikkas C : damnnn man
[14:54]   Vikkas C : 36 rs
[14:54]   r m : must have been a trick to get back their shares for cheap 🙂
[14:55]   RK : its Irony that stock makes such crazy move after SEBI ordered probe in stock’s price action 🙂
[14:55]   Vikkas C : yes rk ..madness
[14:56]   Tejpreet : Anything can happen on NSE with SEBI watching 🙂
[14:56]   RK : 40now thta CE
[14:56]   RK : that
[14:56]   Vikkas C : what the ..i just it at 32
[14:56]   Anay : 50 CE up fm 40 paise to 25 😀
[14:56]   Vikkas C : damnnn
[14:56]   Vikkas C : *saw
[14:56]   RK : 45
[14:57]   RK : 998% from prev close 🙂
[14:58]   Anay : 50 CE is up 5900%
[14:59]   Uttam : ONGC longs are good to carry here Shai or better to enter above 232.5?
[15:01]   RK : we all jinxed it..from 45 that PE down to 32 now 🙂
[15:01]   Vikkas C : hahahahha
[15:02]   r m : too many people stared down the chart 🙂
[15:02]   RK : 20 now
[15:02]   Tejpreet : Yes possible RM
[15:08]   Shai : ONGC better abv 232.5
[15:09]   Vikkas C : next time anyone catches a good option trade lets all trade it together 🙂
[15:09]   Soumya : true.. i always say let’s focus on expiry week option trades !!
[15:11]   Uttam : thanks Shai
[15:18]   Chandrashekhar : had a good trade in amtek auto after many days made 50k trading stock
[15:18]   Vikkas C : lovely chandra 😀
[15:19]   Chandrashekhar : that also by shorting 😉
[15:19]   Tejpreet : Wow Chandra …great trade!
[15:19]   Vikkas C : hahhaha..that is some guts man
[15:21]   r m : @Chandrashekhar, great trade man! 🙂
[15:22]   Chandrashekhar : thanks rm,vikkas,tejpreet
[15:22]   Ashish : Congrats chandra..
[15:23]   Chandrashekhar : thanks ashish
[15:23]   Uttam : congrats Chandra 🙂 party time this weekend…
[15:24]   RK : in the meantime BPCL long booked at 859..it does classic opposite move to entire mkt 🙂
[15:24]   Kathir : congrtas chand
[15:24]   r m : Great RK 🙂
[15:25]   Kathir : @RM Thats I told we willtake some hens from RK 🙂
[15:25]   Tejpreet : Congrats RK .
[15:25]   RK : Shai’s 857 on dot 🙂
[15:25]   Kathir : congrats RK bhai
[15:25]   Ashish : RK, i booked @ 855. BTW congrats
[15:25]   Ashish : RK, any patient looking weak in your hospital?
[15:26]   RK : Ashish sitting on hell of shorts and BPCL was lonely bull in the lot..thats why asking Varun not to probe 7900 to save trousers 🙂
[15:27]   Ashish : Ohhh, ok..so happy now 🙂
[15:27]   Chandrashekhar : thanks uttam, kathir, yeah sure its party time 😉
[15:28]   RK : no still at entry pricess..have to move down on Monday..lets see
[15:28]   Vikkas C : yaar rk ek do patients idhar bhi bol do
[15:28]   RK : Axis short here..but SL above day high
[15:28]   Uttam : RK what level did you enter BPCL, entered today or ysterday?
[15:29]   RK : Vikkas except TTM and REL cap rest all stocks we discuss are in shorts only..
[15:29]   RK : Uttam 840
[15:29]   RK : F
[15:29]   Vikkas C : ok thanx RK sir 🙂
[15:29]   RK : 🙂
[15:29]   Uttam : had it in my list today morning but when I saw it was already trading @ 852 & SL was way below @ 829 so left it
[15:31]   RK : Uttam yep thats better..entry in midway wont help