Orderflow charts and Notes 17/06/15

[08:46]   r m : Good Morning folks!
[08:46]   Dharamveer : Gm All
[08:46]   Dharamveer : Rm where are you from
[08:46]   r m : Dehradun
[08:46]   Dharamveer : me from Hyd
[08:47]   r m : Good, I have been there many times, great city, watched many movies there during our training sessions 🙂
[08:47]   r m : http://vtrender.com/levels-and-plan-for-17th-june/
[08:47]   r m : http://vtrender.com/premium/orderflow-charts-and-notes-160615/
[08:48]   r m : http://vtrender.com/option-values-dt-160615/
[08:48]   r m : Nifty JUN Future levels | Key Reference Area 8065 | Hypo1 below 8065➜8023➜7983 SL 8088 | Hypo2 above 8070➜8102➜8142 SL 8036
[08:48]   r m : Banknifty JUN Future levels | KRA 17500 | Hypo1 above 17566➜17660➜17740 SL 17498 | Hypo2 below 17500➜17378 SL 17556
[08:50]   Dharamveer : good to hear so do inform if you are here for the next time
[08:50]   r m : sure
[08:52]   Shailesh : Gudmrng to all
[08:57]   Porus : GM all
[08:57]   Shai : GM all
[08:59]   Shai : using 8065 as ref line this morning
[08:59]   Shai : have to exit puts if we stay abv 8065 in first 15 mins
[09:00]   Shai : possibility of downside is below 8050 break now
[09:00]   Shai : abv 8065 upside range extension to a possible 8124/ 8138
[09:00]   Tejpreet : GM All.
[09:01]   Shai : BNF possible res early at open at 17740
[09:01]   Srini A : GM All
[09:04]   Sudhakar : GM Shai,RM &All
[09:04]   Augustin : GM all
[09:05]   r m : Hi Sudhakar
[09:05]   Soumya : Good morning all
[09:05]   Sharad : GM all
[09:06]   Mohul : GM All
[09:06]   Vikkas C : GM peeps..!
[09:09]   Moses : GM All
[09:09]   Hemant : GM folks
[09:09]   Kathir : GM Shai RM all friends
[09:10]   r m : Hi Kathir
[09:10]   Manoj : GM RM , shai and all
[09:10]   r m : Hi Manoj
[09:16]   Kathir : @RM nf open = high
[09:16]   r m : ok
[09:17]   RK : GM Shai.RM and all
[09:17]   Kathir : @rm so can short below yest high’s?
[09:17]   RK : Hi Kathir..that open high opens up the trade possibility of Hypo 1 🙂
[09:17]   Sumit : GM everyone
[09:17]   John : GM all:)
[09:18]   Ashish : GM all
[09:18]   Kathir : @Hi RK .ok
[09:18]   Rahul B : GM all
[09:18]   RK : but let first 15 mins settle out..may be short below 8050 as said by Shai would be good..
[09:19]   Venkatesan : gm shai, rm and friends
[09:19]   r m : Hi RK, Venkatesan
[09:19]   Dharamveer : shai any possibility f visiting the anomaly if it stays above 8065 in first 30 min
[09:20]   Kathir : Hi venk
[09:20]   Ashish : NF high is 8095 or 8081 ??
[09:20]   Shai : 8081
[09:21]   Suyash : short below 8065 – filter ?
[09:21]   Shai : yes
[09:21]   Ashish : 8095 is in ami and also in zerodha
[09:21]   Suyash : ok
[09:21]   Shai : given it 15 points today as it is a weekly res also
[09:22]   Manoj : also in my broker terminal 8095
[09:22]   Shai : and 15 mins also like I said pre open
[09:23]   Shai : refreshhing data..
[09:23]   Sandeep : BUT YOU TWEETED TO GO LONG IN NF @8070
[09:23]   Sandeep : is that valid
[09:24]   r m : that is a positional long message auto generated
[09:24]   r m : that has very large stops
[09:25]   Chetan : shai did you give sell call
[09:25]   Soumya : please give your views on cipla shai – looks like open drive up
[09:26]   Shai : lots of sellers at open in NF
[09:28]   Shai : Cipla headed to 613 and 633 stops below 590 on this open
[09:28]   Manoj : if selling nf below 8050 can we follow kea lvls???
[09:29]   RK : HUL finally runs away like fugitive from that tight locked band 🙂
[09:29]   Shai : NF Buy positional call – keep trigger abv 8080 F
[09:29]   Soumya : THANK YOU shai
[09:30]   Shai : No buyers in NF
[09:30]   Augustin : Intra day – Can short Nifty at CMP?
[09:30]   Shai : still risky
[09:30]   Shai : short only 50% here with sl abv 8077
[09:31]   Augustin : Ok
[09:31]   Shai : Aggressive short : Short NF cmp sl of 8077 tgt 8023
[09:32]   Shai : aggressive shorts would be reduced quantities – lesser than your normal
[09:33]   Manoj : means weshould sell less thn normally we sell??
[09:33]   Shai : conf is if 8050 breaks and we get a pink
[09:35]   Shai : yes Manoj
[09:35]   Shai : aggressive is when price confirmation is not complete
[09:36]   Vivek K : shai view on glenmark pls
[09:36]   Vivek K : tading at life highs
[09:37]   Shai : out of that 13L traded in first 15 mins , 1.55 L is an aggressive short at open
[09:38]   Manoj : ok thanks shai
[09:38]   Shai : Glenmark good move- 955 and 1012 are 2 projected levels on the monthly for this move
[09:38]   Shai : near 1 now
[09:39]   Shai : intra day still good as long as it it abv 937
[09:39]   Chetan : is this open drive down in NF ?
[09:39]   Venkatesan : shai till now the buyer 30275 @ 8080 is trapped nah?
[09:40]   Shai : Chetan not a very strong drive but yes a drive
[09:40]   Shai : yes
[09:40]   Dharamveer : is it going for a repair
[09:41]   Chetan : can it be open reject reverse if it goes here to days hige?
[09:41]   Augustin : Shai – Can add 8100 CE at around 50-54?
[09:42]   Hemant : Shai, this sell looks likely to be absorbed if the drive is weak
[09:44]   Shai : Augustin roughly 48 will come on that 8100 ce but we will wait for price to confirm at lows
[09:44]   Shai : BNF weakening
[09:44]   Rahul B : wnen to short bnf
[09:44]   Shai : 17500 supp in BNF
[09:45]   Venkatesan : delta p of BNF greener than NF
[09:45]   Shai : we will look for a short in BNF near 17600
[09:47]   Sandeep : NF SHORT CONF?
[09:47]   Shai : short BNF in 2 parts 17555 here and at 17610 sl of 17655 tgt 17500 and 17420
[09:47]   Shai : yes Sandeep
[09:51]   Manoj : shai i missed my short on nifty can i sell now @ 8052???
[09:52]   Shai : yes
[09:53]   Manoj : thanks
[09:57]   Shailesh : Shai wht wud be upside target for 8000 put
[10:00]   Shai : res in the 800 put at 78
[10:00]   Rahul B : no limit
[10:00]   Shai : 8000*
[10:00]   Shailesh : sorry
[10:00]   Shai : if it crosses 78 then 99 possible
[10:00]   Shailesh : okkk
[10:01]   Shailesh : thanks
[10:01]   Shai : Time is against that Option Rahul as it is OTM
[10:02]   Shai : never get emotional with options esp in the last 10 days
[10:06]   Tejpreet : Shai has Asian paints bottomed out for positional longs.
[10:06]   Shai : BOth NF and BNF dominated by sellers at this open
[10:07]   Shai : upto the buyer again to respond but the first 15 mins did not see an auction abv 8065
[10:07]   Soumya : what are the targets in nifty? 8023 then?
[10:08]   Soumya : and shai dish has broken 108 – please give your views
[10:09]   Shai : Asian bottom is not good but looks like it will prbe higher once around 741
[10:09]   Shai : intra day supp today is 710
[10:09]   Shai : looks like it won’t break 719 today
[10:10]   Shai : NF 8023/ 8002 / 7983 tgts below 8078 today
[10:10]   Tejpreet : Thanks Shai.
[10:11]   Soumya : thank you shai.. please give your views on dish – it is a long term breakout
[10:13]   Shai : Dish don’t see it breaking abv 112 immediately yet
[10:13]   Shai : feel the move has to consolidate here for while
[10:13]   Soumya : thank you shai.. keeping the stock on my radar..
[10:14]   Shai : 119 is the most you can expect on the break abv if 112 is taken out again
[10:14]   Soumya : ok
[10:14]   Soumya : thank you
[10:18]   Manoj : shai sir can we put sl and tgt both on system and leave as i have this facility if any one hits the other cancels as i have to go and i cannot see the screen
[10:18]   Soumya : nifty seeing some buying.. every 5 min candle’s low is above the previous one.. how do we read this?
[10:23]   Venkatesan : shai sterday spike is a short covering?
[10:24]   Shai : buying has come at the lows but vol still smaller compared to overhead sellers
[10:24]   Shai : Ye Manoj
[10:24]   Shailesh : advance declline showing a diff pic shud we look at tht ?
[10:24]   Manoj : thanks
[10:24]   Shai : No Venkatesan had a mix of short covering and buying
[10:24]   Venkatesan : thank you shai
[10:24]   Shai : data uploaded by RM yesterday in his MO post
[10:25]   Chetan : in NSE site VWAP for NF is 8062 ?
[10:25]   Naveen : shai, it is a neutral extreme yest and we are holding abv yest VAH
[10:26]   Naveen : so still bullish na
[10:27]   Shai : No has to stay abv neutral extreme high
[10:28]   Naveen : thanx shai
[10:28]   r m : so longs can be tried only above IBH today or at selling exhaustion on lower side?
[10:30]   r m : NF in love with KRA, just can’t leave it alone 🙂
[10:31]   RK : BNF dont want to look at KRA but NF cries for it 🙂
[10:31]   r m : lol
[10:33]   Tejpreet : But as per hypo we should be long in BN rather than being short.
[10:33]   Shai : Trade was based on the open prices
[10:34]   Tejpreet : Yes true lot of sellers at open.
[10:35]   Shai : In MP opens mean a lot more to us than closes
[10:38]   Shai : Patience needed today
[10:38]   Shai : seller is operating at the higher levels
[10:38]   Shai : retail buyers will still look to buy the dips
[10:39]   Dharamveer : shai who are retail buyers
[10:39]   Shai : http://vtrender.com/desi-mo-mcclellans-oscillator-for-nse-16th-jun-2015/
[10:39]   Dharamveer : i mean diff between retail and pros
[10:39]   Shai : RM makes it a point to post that data every evening
[10:39]   Sandeep : Shai one question related to RSI and divergence
[10:40]   Shai : please refer
[10:40]   Sandeep : is it possible to share any link on that
[10:40]   r m : Props are proprietary traders (brokers) trading on their own account
[10:41]   Shai : No sandeep don’t follow RSI
[10:41]   Venkatesan : rm examplese like rk?
[10:41]   Sandeep : okay Shai
[10:41]   r m : all other traders divided in three categories, FII, DII and Retail (which includes everyone else except FII, DII, PRO)
[10:42]   r m : @Venkatesan, RK is huge retail trader 🙂
[10:42]   Dharamveer : but will retail buying in the dips help the market to move up
[10:42]   Venkatesan : pl bear with me rk, :)) rm
[10:43]   Vikkas C : shai ..IBL not broken ..can it go closer to IBH and then turn down for 8021
[10:43]   RK : Venkatesan, Profit wise am retail trader and loss wise am prop trader..you can say that :))
[10:44]   r m : @Dharamveer, yesterday’s data speaks loudly 🙂 http://vtrender.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/oishift10.png
[10:44]   Venkatesan : rk r u a nse member? mean you can directly view nse terminal?
[10:45]   r m : FII used the highs to exit longs, while retail bought the dip
[10:45]   Venkatesan : :)) retailers transfer asset to FIIs
[10:46]   r m : no, that is general feeing not based on facts 🙂
[10:47]   RK : Venkat, RM is trolling..am just a jujubi trader 🙂
[10:47]   RK : Kathir will vouch for me 🙂
[10:47]   Venkatesan : :))
[10:47]   r m : @RK, i never trolled, was only trying to moderate Venkatesan’s view 🙂
[10:48]   r m : Had I not done so he would have next promoted you to FII status 😀
[10:48]   RK : I know about your kind moderation RM..thanks 🙂
[10:48]   r m : lol
[10:48]   RK : Yes I was expecting that hence surrendered 🙂
[10:48]   Venkatesan : so rm u dont want rk to be fii
[10:49]   RK : have to meet him quickly so that his expectations would vapourise 🙂
[10:50]   r m : @Venkatesan, I don’t mind if he appoints me as Fund manager 🙂
[10:50]   Chetan : shai daily i am not getting fdnexcel sheet,dmo oscillator and open interest chart ,order flow chart and notes in my mail
[10:50]   Shai : Vkkas can bounce to 8075 to catch buyers off
[10:51]   Vikkas C : hmm..ok thanx shai
[10:51]   Manoj : (10:50) Shai :Vkkas can bounce to 8075 to catch buyers off but we should maintain shorts right ???
[10:52]   Vivek K : rm. fund managers should be renamed as fun managers
[10:52]   r m : Cipla has hit 611!
[10:52]   Venkatesan : ::))
[10:52]   r m : @Vivek, exactly! why do you think I am applying? 😀
[10:52]   Shai : Maintian sl of 8081 – (09:31) Shai :Aggressive short : Short NF cmp sl of 8077 tgt 8023
[10:52]   Ashish : Shai, LT targets on upside please.
[10:54]   Vikkas C : shai is there a stuck buyer @ 8080
[10:54]   Shai : LT supp 1670 on intra but make new positional buy abv 1694 cross tgt 1735
[10:54]   Shai : he may have liquidated below 8080 already
[10:54]   Vivek K : shai sir, view on LIC pls
[10:54]   Ashish : Thanks Shai
[10:55]   Chetan : shai daily i am not getting fdnexcel sheet,dmo oscillator and open interest chart ,order flow chart and notes in my mail
[10:55]   Dharamveer : is it a big seller at 8064
[10:55]   Vikkas C : ok
[10:57]   Venkatesan : near sterday spike high
[10:58]   Dharamveer : Shai if we get responsive buyers at 7980 today can we see upmove like yesterday
[11:05]   Dharamveer : is the spike over or still to be done
[11:07]   Shailesh : NF up 30 points from the days low
[11:13]   Vikkas C : shai can 8100ce be shorted at cmp
[11:16]   Manoj : shai exit longs ???
[11:19]   Hemant : That was quick
[11:19]   Shai : If stop not hit hold
[11:20]   Manoj : ok
[11:20]   Manoj : holding 🙂
[11:20]   Dharamveer : what is the 8082 volume
[11:21]   Manoj : 180.1k vol on my terminal
[11:22]   Manoj : did we see a FA @ high just now @ 8082.4
[11:23]   Shai : No
[11:23]   Manoj : ok
[11:25]   Manoj : shai sir wht could be the reason prise scaling up despite morning selling
[11:27]   Shai : exit the BNF shorts here at 17595
[11:27]   Dharamveer : how abt NF shorts
[11:27]   Dharamveer : still holding
[11:28]   Shai : yes let’s maintain at abv 8082
[11:28]   Shai : has to break 8060 again
[11:28]   Manoj : i am sorry actuaally i wrote wrong i meant shorts (11:16) Manoj :shai exit longs ???
[11:32]   Dharamveer : can you refresh 2nd NFchart
[11:40]   Ravi Chahal : exit BNF short?
[11:43]   Shai : yes BNF we exit
[11:43]   Ravi Chahal : ok
[11:44]   Vivek K : glenmark next resis pls
[11:44]   Vivek K : shai glen levels pls if any change?
[11:44]   Naveen : shai,do 10/6 seller@8095 defending
[11:44]   Dharamveer : @ Shai why exit in BN when delta is red and pink line and below vwap
[11:45]   Shai : super move Glenamark
[11:45]   Shai : same 1012
[11:45]   Soumya : cipla also.. hats off shai
[11:46]   Shai : Dharamveer running against the hypo as selling dried up lower
[11:47]   Dharamveer : ok
[11:47]   Dharamveer : is the Va trying to move upside everyday
[11:54]   Shai : No yesterday was lower and even POC lower
[11:54]   Shai : hence we have this mixed setup at a breakout point
[11:55]   Dharamveer : but todays established above day before will it make any effect
[11:55]   Shai : we will exit NF if sl goes and wait on fresh cues
[11:56]   Shai : today is still developing- we have to wait untill 2 pm at least
[11:56]   Shai : Becuase the morning drive came back over vwap in Nf bias has gone from negative to neutral
[11:57]   Shai : still heavy morning sellers here
[11:57]   Dharamveer : ok
[11:57]   Shai : approx 13L in volume in 1st 15 min all net short : (09:37) Shai :out of that 13L traded in first 15 mins , 1.55 L is an aggressive short at open
[11:57]   Soumya : Are the morning sellers OTF sellers? Nd how do we know that?
[11:58]   Shai : Through vols only
[11:58]   Soumya : Shai cipla 613 reached.. Waiting for 633
[11:58]   Shai : generally first 15 mins if OTF vols cross 15- 18 L easily
[11:59]   Soumya : where can we see the volumes in this chart?
[12:01]   r m : top row in 15 minute chart
[12:01]   r m : volume for that bar
[12:02]   Soumya : thank you shai and rm
[12:02]   Soumya : understood
[12:02]   Shai : NF playing out that thin 11th June profile
[12:02]   Shai : http://vtrender.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Nf_compo111.png
[12:03]   Shai : That seller is higher at the top
[12:03]   Shai : if he does not come here he will at higher levels
[12:04]   Shai : I would watch 8110- 8120 spot levels for sellers if NF does not break 8060 here and climbs higher
[12:04]   Shai : rughy 8103 F
[12:04]   Varun : At what levels @shai?
[12:04]   Shai : roughly*
[12:05]   Shai : 8110 and 8126 2 anomalies also
[12:05]   Shai : 8138 LVN
[12:06]   Hemant : Persistent selling for some time now, not the place to go long I suppose
[12:06]   Rajat : if seller comes in here
[12:06]   Rajat : it will still be a poor high
[12:06]   Rajat : and woudl require a revisit.. right?
[12:07]   Shai : No Not a poor high
[12:07]   Shai : Open shows rejection and is a drive down
[12:07]   Varun : thanks@shai
[12:08]   Shai : Tis auction in the morning pointed to sellers reapiring the poor high of the lat 2 days and hence short was right
[12:08]   Shai : just the low volume move abv vwap and 8065 has made it go off track a bit
[12:09]   Rajat : 2tpos at top automatically doesnt mean poor high?
[12:09]   Shai : No at 8094 there is a tail
[12:09]   Shai : see 30 min chart on right
[12:09]   Rajat : oh ok
[12:09]   Rajat : doesnt show in my chart
[12:09]   Rajat : thanks
[12:10]   Shai : ok
[12:11]   Shai : even BNF operating that thin tpo zone of 11/ 06
[12:11]   r m : @Shai, as NF is managing to stay above vwap, drive down impact seems cancelled now, will it be OK to go long above that freak 8095 now?
[12:12]   Shai : http://vtrender.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/BNF_compo11.png
[12:12]   Dharamveer : shai is the 8082 a buyer
[12:12]   Shai : Yes RM that would be right
[12:12]   r m : Thanks Shai
[12:12]   Shai : Dharamveer stops
[12:17]   Hemant : SL hit again (cringe)
[12:18]   Shai : yes
[12:18]   Shai : let’s stay flat here for a while
[12:19]   Manoj : ok
[12:19]   Hemant : Chai, peanuts and nails time
[12:20]   Shai : 🙂
[12:20]   Kathir : @hemant is it possible to change chai and offer somethingelse 🙂
[12:21]   Sreedhar : Bangalore’s weather suggesting that Kathir..
[12:21]   Sreedhar : : )
[12:22]   Kathir : @sreedhar should be great weather there in blore I guess
[12:22]   Sreedhar : yes..absolutely..
[12:23]   Hemant : Kathir, espresso will do to stay awake 🙂
[12:24]   Hemant : Thats the best offer for now
[12:24]   Kathir : then enjoy evenings 🙂 you can cheer with DD boss and JK brother
[12:24]   Kathir : @hem 🙂
[12:25]   r m : 33 degree right now, DD is no hill station 🙂
[12:25]   Dharamveer : but for us its still a hill station
[12:25]   Sreedhar : What is DD yaar..
[12:25]   Venkatesan : daredevil?
[12:25]   Kathir : Dehradood
[12:26]   Manoj : dehradoon
[12:26]   Sreedhar : ok..
[12:26]   Venkatesan : dehradoon is cool
[12:26]   Sandeep : Shai still holding NF shorts
[12:26]   Soumya : shai shorts exit or hold?
[12:26]   Hemant : Double distribution? Door se darshan 😛
[12:27]   r m : lol
[12:27]   Kathir : lol
[12:27]   Venkatesan : yes
[12:27]   r m : evenings need better fortifier than espresso 🙂
[12:27]   Venkatesan : KF?
[12:28]   Sreedhar : Rightly said Rm.
[12:28]   r m : not a beer person, smirnoff preferred 🙂
[12:28]   Ashish : JK is around 38 degrees man..
[12:28]   Venkatesan : we are helping maalya to recover from loss
[12:28]   Ashish : having some lemon jaljeera is fine right now…
[12:29]   r m : yeah, i know,Jammu is very bad and humid too
[12:29]   Ashish : yes, more humid in monsoon..
[12:29]   r m : we had rains in the hills a couple of days back
[12:29]   Hemant : KF dont mix well with NF
[12:29]   Manoj : rm bhai simironoff is my fav also which flavour BTW
[12:29]   Venkatesan : :)) hemant
[12:30]   Ashish : we also have once a week here…
[12:30]   Ashish : common Manoj go for desi 😉
[12:30]   Hemant : Toddy time 🙂
[12:31]   r m : @Manoj, without flavor with natural orange juice 😀
[12:31]   r m : that takes away the sour memory of stops taken during the day 😀
[12:31]   Srini A : BNF looks weak
[12:31]   Manoj : yaar ekdum same to same will raise a tost on ur name tonight pukka
[12:32]   Vikkas C : shai BNF has been going abv vwap but every 30 mins candel closing below vwap
[12:32]   Manoj : i usually take with pulpy orange
[12:32]   r m : that is even bette
[12:32]   r m : better
[12:32]   Sreedhar : Great learning..yaar ..
[12:32]   Sreedhar : ; )
[12:32]   r m : @Sreedhar 🙂
[12:33]   Venkatesan : time for lunch guys, hope congestion contunues
[12:34]   r m : traders may be avoiding new positions in view of FOMC meet tonight
[12:34]   Hemant : 🙂 Hope not Venkatesan. Bored to death almost
[12:35]   Vikkas C : @RM then get it down to 8000 and let the games begin tomo mrng 😉
[12:35]   r m : 🙂
[12:36]   r m : let us seek help of biggies here, on my own i can’t even cause a single tick (.05 point) fall 🙂
[12:36]   John : @Shai,Do we need to use filter to enter IB breakout trade?
[12:37]   Kathir : @sowmya 12:18 Shai : let’s stay flat here for a while
[12:38]   r m : a couple of points maybe, just to be assured that there was a breakout/down
[12:38]   Shai : I’ve exited and gone flat – (12:26) Sandeep :Shai still holding NF shorts
[12:38]   Shai : Not seeing great strength in new long hhere
[12:38]   Tejpreet : Dish TV gone ballistic.
[12:38]   Shai : But NF has to break 8060 again for a short view
[12:38]   John : Thanks RM
[12:40]   Tejpreet : Shai can long BN around ibl with kra sl of 17498.
[12:42]   Shai : yes
[12:42]   Sreedhar : Shai, you use order flow to analyse Stocks also?
[12:43]   Shai : No not for positionals
[12:43]   Ashish : Shai, Wockhardt again.. Do you think that price is getting accepted at current level after its upmove since yesterday? Price is trading close to selling zone of 5th and 11th June.
[12:44]   Soumya : yup
[12:44]   Soumya : i booked 2/3rd at 115.5
[12:45]   Soumya : holding 1/3rd qty
[12:45]   Shai : yes wock nice supports at 1355 taking on last week’s seellers here
[12:46]   Shai : is good if it stay abv 1388 intr
[12:46]   Ashish : Thanks Shai 🙂
[12:46]   Shai : seeing 1470/8 if last week’s sellers taken out
[12:47]   Ashish : yes, that will be the 1st target.
[12:47]   Ashish : Bharat forge at day’s high
[12:48]   Shai : adv – decl very good today
[12:49]   Vikkas C : shai HUL time to bookout or some more steam left ?
[12:50]   Shai : 864 good plac to book
[12:51]   Vikkas C : ok thanx shai
[12:58]   Varun : shai we are trading above a spike, having rejected area below spike, gep rules says if open with a gap and stay abv range, a late afternoon rally has chances ???
[12:58]   Varun : gap”
[13:01]   Shai : yes if we don’t break below 8065 neutral ext lows we climb higher in afternoon
[13:01]   Shai : all these sellers will be forced to cover
[13:02]   Varun : so r/e ib would be a high prob trade
[13:02]   Shai : yes
[13:02]   Varun : hmmm
[13:02]   Varun : thank
[13:02]   Varun : s
[13:02]   Shai : still auction not decisive here
[13:03]   Shai : needs time to regulate it
[13:03]   Shai : value lower, poc lower, afternoon spike , open drive lower neutral extreme trigger
[13:04]   Shai : all opposites here
[13:04]   Augustin : Shai – move below 8065 confirmation for shorts?
[13:05]   Shai : 8060
[13:05]   Augustin : Ok. Thanks
[13:05]   r m : BNF has voted 🙂
[13:05]   Hemant : 🙂
[13:07]   Shai : Sell NF again 8065 sl of 8085 tgt 8040/ 8022
[13:08]   Shai : BNF has to break 17500 for shorts to come in strongly
[13:08]   Shai : then tgt is as much as 17320 again
[13:11]   Kathir : @shai bnf short here?
[13:14]   Dharamveer : is that 125975 a buyer at 8064 or SL
[13:21]   Dharamveer : if we get responsive buying below 8000 can we buy a call
[13:29]   Varun : shai i did an observation with oflow
[13:30]   Varun : if pink turns green now, we should rally
[13:30]   Varun : lets see
[13:30]   Sreedhar : @varun third time lucky?
[13:30]   Shai : yes 125975 buyer
[13:31]   Shai : No Kathir don’t short BNF
[13:31]   Kathir : ok shai
[13:31]   Dharamveer : what is the daily avg nifty vol
[13:31]   Shai : 12L
[13:32]   Shai : Exit the NF shorts – 8071
[13:32]   Varun : will the pink turn green
[13:33]   Shai : Buy BNF 18545 sl of 18498 tgt 18610/ 18665
[13:35]   Manoj : can we buy 17500 ce instead for intraday
[13:36]   Shai : ok
[13:36]   Shai : NF looks like a Normal day now with close at vwap
[13:36]   Vivek K : http://www.wsj.com/articles/chinese-firms-put-cash-to-work-in-stocks-1434463023
[13:40]   Manoj : can we buy nf or still wait ???
[13:42]   Shai : nf CAN BUY
[13:42]   Shai : I went with BNF as it had better OrderFlow then for longs
[13:42]   Manoj : ok thanks
[13:43]   Manoj : i am long nw in both
[13:43]   Ravi Chahal : tgts
[13:43]   Varun : shai it owrked 2 in 2 times 🙂
[13:43]   Varun : worked
[13:43]   Sreedhar : what’s logic Varun..
[13:43]   Shai : NF 8102/ 8122 tgt
[13:43]   Varun : tht nite also
[13:44]   Varun : i mentioned
[13:44]   Kathir : @varun any idea of how many points nf will rally ?
[13:44]   Varun : never can i tell tht
[13:45]   Varun : only shai cn tell tht
[13:45]   Kathir : with the past experience
[13:46]   Sreedhar : ok..
[13:46]   Soumya : superb varun – great call
[13:46]   Shai : yes +1
[13:47]   Ravi Chahal : nf tgt?
[13:48]   Shai : (13:43) Shai :NF 8102/ 8122 tgt
[13:49]   Shai : BNf book 50%
[13:49]   Shai : NF also book
[13:49]   Shai : sellers coming at highs again
[13:50]   Varun : thanks soumya
[13:52]   Kathir : @varun good one thanks
[13:52]   Shai : exit all BNF
[13:53]   Manoj : thanks shai sir vrun bhai for recovering my intraday bnf losses
[13:54]   Manoj : shai sir nf avg more here ???
[13:54]   Shai : Buy 8000 puts again here sl 31 into tom
[13:54]   Shai : cmp 44 we will risk 15 points
[13:56]   Tejpreet : Shai SL for 8100 put correspondingly.
[13:57]   Shai : 8100 sl below 65
[13:57]   Shai : positioanl sl at close
[13:57]   Shai : but trade is for tom not here
[13:58]   Shai : not intra day*
[13:58]   Tejpreet : Yes but can we buy now at 78.
[13:58]   Shai : yes
[13:58]   Tejpreet : Thanks.
[13:59]   Ravi Chahal : ok bought 8000PE
[14:02]   Tejpreet : Shai thanks for lt buy above 1694 trigger booked 1700 call from 22 to 30 id.
[14:02]   Shai : cool
[14:04]   Tejpreet : Are you still looking for vwap close or we close at day high.
[14:04]   Tejpreet : In NF .
[14:04]   Manoj : bnf looks like again long for 100 pt shai sir ???
[14:05]   RK : HUL 815-857 done 🙂
[14:05]   Shai : Tough Tejpreet in view of the FED event
[14:05]   Shai : hence went early into the put
[14:06]   Augustin : Shai – 8000 PE T1 is 64?
[14:06]   Shai : Expecting Helen to be hawkish today and some change in commentary
[14:06]   Shai : but that has noting to do with price here
[14:06]   Tejpreet : Correct looks like tmrw will be a mad rush to buy them 🙂
[14:06]   Shai : It’s meeting sellers on this rise
[14:07]   Shai : Even tom conf is only if 8060 breaks
[14:09]   Shai : yes 66 and 74 tgts on the 8000 pe
[14:09]   Hemant : 🙂
[14:09]   Hemant : Can it do 100 Shai?
[14:10]   Augustin : Thanks
[14:11]   Shai : if anyone holding 8100 ce from 47 of last week this is the place to close them
[14:12]   Manoj : does it ooks we will test 8135 on futs today ???
[14:12]   Manoj : ooks = looks
[14:12]   Shai : Hemant 85 is tough res
[14:12]   Hemant : Booked @ 144 that 8000 CE remaining quantity, & shorted as well @143 🙂
[14:13]   Shai : Manoh intra day good still for long abv 8092
[14:13]   Shai : can do
[14:13]   Hemant : Ok, Shai, 85 will do as well 🙂
[14:13]   Shai : Manoj*
[14:13]   Manoj : ok thanks
[14:16]   Tejpreet : Any ECB announcements today around 230 ist.
[14:17]   Manoj : shai sir wht is max upside seen intraday if 8092 is held ???
[14:20]   Dharamveer : now are these the Irresponsibel Responsive sellers
[14:25]   Dharamveer : poor high and alue shifted to upside can we stll repair of 8002 Anomaly
[14:25]   Dharamveer : *Value
[14:26]   r m : @Tejpreet, nothing in investing.com, BOE MPC minutes already out at 14:00
[14:27]   Tejpreet : Thanks RM even my search yielded no results .
[14:27]   r m : http://www.investing.com/economic-calendar/
[14:28]   Hemant : Greece most likely to default
[14:30]   Porus : Hemant, any opinion online re Greece default?
[14:31]   Kathir : @RM bring nf to vwap with the help of your FII friends
[14:31]   Tejpreet : It think Greece is already priced in , what Yellen does is the key.
[14:32]   r m : @Kathir, yessir!
[14:33]   r m : almost all banks have a normal profile today so far
[14:33]   Kathir : thanks RM 🙂
[14:33]   Hemant : Porus, opinions have been for grexit for some time now, new statements coming to greek PM is worrying & Germans being the snobs they are, nothing is helping
[14:33]   r m : @Kathir, did you buy the KRA touch in BNF?
[14:34]   Porus : Thanks Hemant
[14:34]   Kathir : @RM totally forgotten
[14:34]   r m : @Hemant, easy to say Germans being snob but any European money is actually German money only which is at stake 🙂
[14:35]   Kathir : @RM missed easy 70 🙁
[14:35]   Hemant : UK has launched its contingency program to lessen the impact of Greece exit
[14:35]   r m : @Kathir, guess we need to create a program to trade KRA without our intervention 🙂
[14:35]   Kathir : yeah 🙂
[14:37]   Rahul N : @shai whats your view on sbi futures?
[14:37]   Varun : (12:58) Varun :shai we are trading above a spike, having rejected area below spike, gep rules says if open with a gap and stay abv range, a late afternoon rally has chances ???
[14:37]   r m : NF did exactly like yesterday, killed stops below KRA and then shot up
[14:37]   Hemant : Greek Central Bank pleads for deal to avoid Grexit
[14:37]   Varun : gap rules played out perfect
[14:38]   Shai : max at 8137-8142 : (14:17) Manoj :shai sir wht is max upside seen intraday if 8092 is held ???
[14:38]   Shai : anomaly visist does not have time restrction – (14:25) Dharamveer :poor high and alue shifted to upside can we stll repair of 8002 Anomaly
[14:39]   Varun : today was copy book dalton fav trades
[14:39]   Shai : extremely good read Varun : (14:37) Varun :(12:58) Varun :shai we are trading above a spike, having rejected area below spike, gep rules says if open with a gap and stay abv range, a late afternoon rally has chances ???
[14:40]   Shai : Yes except BNF on the other side of spike hghs
[14:40]   Hemant : Well done Varun
[14:40]   Rahul N : @shai whats your view on sbi and axis bank futures?
[14:40]   r m : Viva la Varun 🙂
[14:40]   Shai : Buy NF 8115 sl of 8092 tgt 8142
[14:40]   Sreedhar : Thanks Shai, for this new knowledge..
[14:40]   Varun : shai cos bnf entrerred spike and established value within range
[14:40]   Varun : i just saw its profile
[14:41]   Shai : Rahul just loading sbi chart
[14:41]   Rahul N : ok
[14:43]   Varun : i exited my longs at wvap band of 8105
[14:43]   Varun : didnt even realise it did 11 lacs, gosh 3 times
[14:43]   Varun : so many things to note
[14:44]   Varun : else probe to lvn was always on
[14:44]   Shai : sbin May F 259 and 263 obj of the move sl below 253
[14:44]   Shai : sl below 252.5
[14:45]   Rahul N : ok
[14:45]   Varun : shai chk ticvk data huge sllrs at top
[14:45]   Shai : axis bank June F can drop to 545 again sl of 556
[14:46]   Varun : 4 one lac ech
[14:46]   Shai : seeing rejection at 555 +
[14:46]   Rahul N : thanks
[14:46]   Shai : refreshing data..
[14:46]   Ashish : Shai, shorting levels for bajaj-auto please?
[14:48]   Shai : Ashish weekly obj in bajaj done at 2413
[14:48]   Shai : can use that as sl for shorts
[14:48]   Shai : can drop to 2337 with that as asl
[14:48]   Ashish : roger that Shai 😉
[14:50]   Varun : all buyers, lol
[14:50]   Shai : No big sellers yet
[14:50]   Varun : but shais if it turns pink from here, these guys are trapped
[14:51]   Srini A : OH, this is a revelation 🙂
[14:51]   Srini A : I thought they were big sellers as Varun mentioned earlier
[14:52]   Varun : till no pink, no shorting
[14:52]   Kathir : @shai hold that 8000 pe for tom ?
[14:52]   Vivek K : shai 15 min candle shows gree, but 5 min fp volumes are red
[14:52]   Vivek K : why this dichotomy?
[14:52]   Shai : Vivel 5 mins also green
[14:53]   Shai : except 2.35 net is green
[14:54]   Varun : thr was no red here, thts why told shai to chk it
[14:57]   Venkatesan : nf high is lower thant spot high?
[14:57]   Shai : that 15 min chart is pure tick data so when ticks dont flow smooth or price moves in 3- 5 point increments – it needs a refresh
[14:58]   Shai : Ideally price should trade everything between point 1 and point 2 in 0.05 steps acc to NSE tick increment page
[14:59]   Manoj : Bye every one
[14:59]   Ashish : sellers????
[14:59]   Shai : yes
[14:59]   Shai : now selelrs
[15:00]   Shai : sellers*
[15:00]   Suyash : just covered my nifty long seeing these sellers
[15:00]   Shai : little more risk into that event
[15:00]   Suyash : OF is a great heads up
[15:01]   Srini A : They have come in exactly at 3 PM
[15:01]   Varun : (14:50) Varun :but shais if it turns pink from here, these guys are trapped
[15:01]   Dharamveer : is it long liquidation or new shorts
[15:02]   Varun : 🙂
[15:02]   Varun : this is brutal trapping
[15:02]   Srini A : Exactly Varun
[15:02]   Srini A : But your reading of the situation is amazing
[15:03]   Augustin : Varun – You are reading it Brilliant
[15:03]   Sandeep : great going varun
[15:03]   Kathir : @varun the young master
[15:04]   Varun : first thank the guy who made pink green, i dnt even know what it
[15:04]   Varun : lol
[15:04]   Kathir : 7900 pe 17.7 to 28 now
[15:04]   Varun : i have been observing a trade for like many days
[15:04]   Vikkas C : shai what cud be trgts for 8000pe and 8100pe
[15:04]   Varun : lol 8064
[15:04]   Srini A : Below VWAP, back IB LOw now?
[15:05]   Varun : see the one one lakhs vomitting now
[15:06]   Kathir : lol
[15:06]   Venkatesan : 35 lac loss
[15:06]   Kathir : @varun I requested RM to bring NF to vwap.he helped me 🙂
[15:07]   Venkatesan : in just a mt
[15:07]   Varun : shai said it afternoon vwap close
[15:07]   Varun : i thought shai i am looking for a spike and all
[15:07]   Varun : what yaar
[15:07]   Varun : we both got what we wanted
[15:07]   Augustin : Shai – Can book 8000 pe around 62-66 or carry to tomorrow?
[15:08]   Hemant : Got no one but BNF to thank today again 🙂
[15:10]   Kathir : @varun I noted one thing when that 4 lkh buyer came nf delta went to -1.4 from -6.4 lakh now -3.8 lakhs
[15:10]   Shai : PE is a carry
[15:10]   Varun : still not worked towrds delta
[15:10]   Varun : thr r like 6 things to look
[15:10]   Varun : lol
[15:11]   Varun : will watch its action also
[15:11]   Kathir : lol
[15:11]   RK : either you watch everthing or dont watch anything..simply key in SL and target and remain silent 🙂
[15:12]   RK : Mkt swings like that
[15:12]   Kathir : yes RK
[15:13]   Shai : If 8060 breaks tom we go stright down to 7910 again
[15:13]   Varun : yup
[15:13]   Shai : all longs have to watch 8060
[15:13]   Chandan : shai…were thr any levels around the NF highs..?
[15:14]   Chandan : from the zone it reverted?
[15:14]   Shai : Chandan was 8137-8142 but stoopped short
[15:14]   Chandan : ok…what levels were those..?
[15:15]   Shai : (12:02) Shai :http://vtrender.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Nf_compo111.png
[15:15]   Shai : (12:03) Shai :That seller is higher at the top
[15:16]   Chandan : ok…
[15:16]   Shai : mixed auction today
[15:16]   Shai : leaves it undecided into tom
[15:17]   Shai : No doubt seller is there at the top but 8060 not broken convincingly
[15:17]   Varun : onl;y positive take away value above spike
[15:17]   Varun : but 8000-8050 very less auctioned
[15:18]   Varun : so thought it mite go till 8000 vah or 7975 ppoc
[15:18]   Tejpreet : Exactly ….into big event tmrw …best would be book profit and go home with nil ….and wait for tmrw.
[15:18]   Vivek K : so we are going into tomorrow bottoms up and top heavy 🙂
[15:18]   Kathir : @shai gap down possible tomrw?
[15:19]   Shai : lol Vivek
[15:19]   r m : gap is confirmed, which side will be known after FOMC meet 🙂
[15:19]   Ashish : Shai, looks like FII have added shorts here.. RM’s option change data will clear it
[15:20]   Shai : To me it looked like the morning sellers closed an came back higher
[15:21]   Ashish : yes, that’s also a possibility.
[15:21]   Kathir : @RM thanks
[15:21]   r m : @Kathir 🙂
[15:21]   RK : NF in 2015 not moved by events so far in a big way – I mean global events
[15:22]   Srini A : Yes, Shai, thats what you mentioned when we were ar 8080. Thats how it has panned out
[15:22]   Ashish : Shai, 1748650 vol. in 15 minute is the highest volume bar today.
[15:22]   Ashish : @ 15:15
[15:23]   Varun : (13:36) Shai :NF looks like a Normal day now with close at vwap
[15:23]   Varun : slow claps
[15:24]   Vivek K : whistle podu
[15:24]   Vivek K : shai is a good match fixer
[15:25]   Kathir : 🙂
[15:25]   Tejpreet : Today it felt like sitting in pepsi vip box and watching the ipl…birdsview of the market 🙂
[15:26]   Varun : shai everday at 3.25 these guys with 2 lacs each come and either buy sell
[15:26]   Shai : lol
[15:26]   Varun : any relevance
[15:26]   Varun : ot just btst
[15:27]   Shai : 2 time frames were visisble early morning onwards so vwap an expected close or a tie if you please
[15:27]   Shai : Varun could be props or system closures of retail
[15:27]   RK : LIC day high close
[15:28]   Varun : ok
[15:28]   Tejpreet : Great tie today …superover tmrw.
[15:28]   Vikkas C : pe is a carry over trade ryt ?
[15:28]   Shai : easy to short below 8060 tom
[15:28]   Shai : upside is again 8137 but this time will have more conviction
[15:29]   Kathir : @RK you are like third umpire man watching all sides 🙂
[15:29]   Shai : yes carrying PE
[15:29]   RK : 🙂
[15:30]   Varun : 4 lac seeler and price didnt drop one point
[15:30]   Vivek K : third umpire very important, he can over rule on field guy
[15:30]   Ashish : Bye all
[15:30]   r m : Thanks and bye folks, have a great evening 🙂
[15:30]   Augustin : Bye all
[15:30]   Hemant : Ty folks 🙂
[15:30]   Suyash : Thanks and bye all
[15:30]   Kathir : yes vivek
[15:30]   Shai : Bye all
[15:30]   Kathir : thanks and bye all
[15:30]   Shai : have a nice evening
[15:30]   Mohul : Bye N Thanks a lot
[15:30]   Shailesh : Thanks all bye
[15:30]   Tejpreet : Bye All
[15:30]   Dharamveer : Byeall
[15:30]   Vikkas C : bye all
[15:30]   Srini A : Bye everyone
[15:31]   Porus : bye all
[15:31]   Venkatesan : thank you shai, rm and friends
[15:31]   Sandeep : bye
[15:31]   Moses : Bye all
[15:32]   Sudhakar : Bye All
[15:37]   Kiran : bye all …