OrderFlow charts and Notes

[08:42]   r m : Good Morning folks!
[08:42]   r m : http://vtrender.com/orderflow-charts-and-notes-070715/
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[08:43]   r m : http://vtrender.com/levels-and-plan-for-8th-july/
[08:43]   Manoj : GM RM
[08:43]   r m : Hi Manoj
[08:43]   r m : Nifty JUL Future levels | Key reference area 8499 | Hypo1 below 8499➜8472➜8426 SL 8535 | Hypo2 above 8554➜8581➜8615 SL 8514
[08:43]   r m : Banknifty JUL Future levels | KRA 18722 | Hypo1 below 18710➜18620➜18501 SL 18795 | Hypo2 above 18825➜18915➜18995 SL 18715
[08:49]   Sankar : GM RM 🙂
[08:49]   Sankar : GM All 🙂
[08:50]   r m : Hi Sankar
[08:52]   Augustin : GM All
[08:52]   Hemant : GM Folks
[08:52]   Manthan : Good Mng Everyone,
[08:55]   Vikkas C : GM all
[08:55]   Vikkas C : is the dip going to be bought today as well
[08:55]   Vikkas C : hypo 2nd trgt will be achieved in the open itself
[08:56]   Vikkas C : hypo1
[08:56]   Sankar : gap down?
[08:58]   Hemant : The US markerts went down close to 2% yesterday & overnight recovered pretty with some gains.
[08:58]   Porus : GM Shai, RM and all
[08:59]   Sankar : GM Shai 🙂
[09:00]   Ashish : Gm all
[09:00]   Srini A : GM All
[09:01]   Tejpreet : GM All.
[09:02]   Shai : GM all
[09:03]   Sudhakar : GM All
[09:03]   r m : Hi Porus
[09:04]   Tejpreet : RM during the day when you get time can you have a look at MP charts on the marketcalls site .http://www.marketcalls.in/market-profile
[09:04]   Tejpreet : Can you give your views on the accuracy compared to our mp charts.
[09:04]   Shailesh : GM all
[09:05]   Sharad : GM all
[09:06]   Tejpreet : Shai incase we go below 8430 doews the next support come at 4380 or we have something in between.
[09:06]   r m : Have seen them Tejpreet, they are NT charts using Fin-alg.com TPO Chart indicator
[09:06]   Tejpreet : 8380
[09:07]   Tejpreet : No RM i am referring to the letter ones based on ami , he gives only for nifty.
[09:07]   Shai : thn 8380 again
[09:07]   Tejpreet : Thanks Shai.
[09:08]   r m : the AFL are all derived from Kaka/Milind’s MarketProfile AFL, they will give you same values
[09:08]   Hemant : Thats a lot of red to start with 🙂
[09:09]   Sumit : GM everyone
[09:09]   Tejpreet : Thanks RM.
[09:10]   r m : @Tejpreet, the nice looking lettter ones are with NT
[09:10]   r m : you can find the NT logo on the bottom I think 🙂
[09:11]   Vikkas C : white is NT and black is ami
[09:12]   Tejpreet : Right RM guess will have to go with NT as of now.
[09:13]   Venkatesan : gm shai, rm,kris, and frends
[09:13]   Sankar : I believe its not NT or Ami which is making much difference. Good looking one may be having tick level data, while the other may not. That could be right?
[09:14]   r m : Yes Tejpreet, cheapest option 🙂
[09:14]   r m : Hi Venkatesan
[09:15]   Venkatesan : hi rm
[09:16]   Soumya : chart not started
[09:16]   Shailesh : CHart stuck ?
[09:16]   Ashish : Hypo 1 , all targets done
[09:17]   r m : For all those who want to practice using NT, I am uploading tick data in the evenng for NF, BNF future and spot at http://tinyurl.com/NTformatdata
[09:18]   Vivek K : shai what about the 8400 put
[09:18]   Sankar : Thank you RM.
[09:18]   Shailesh : charts are not working or my screen is still …anybdy
[09:18]   Sankar : @Shai, do we hold 8400 PE or book profits?
[09:19]   r m : @Shilesh, not working at my end as well
[09:19]   Shailesh : now strted
[09:19]   Ashish : Thanks Rm
[09:19]   Kris : Gm All 🙂
[09:19]   Ashish : Morning Kris
[09:19]   r m : Hi Kris 🙂
[09:19]   Sudhakar : gm kris
[09:19]   Augustin : @Shai, @Kris – PE’s nearing resistance?
[09:20]   Sankar : GM Kris 🙂
[09:23]   Sandeep : HELLO EVERYONE
[09:23]   Sandeep : too much of silebce
[09:23]   Sandeep : silence
[09:24]   Sandeep : shai are you there ?
[09:24]   Shailesh : Shai at vwap short here ?
[09:24]   Kris : Will buy 8200PE in two parts – at 57. and at 49.
[09:25]   Sankar : already 8100 is there Kris.
[09:25]   Sankar : or you are booking here?
[09:25]   Kris : Purely intraday – MIS order in zerodha. Will get closed at 3.25 in the evening.
[09:25]   Sankar : ok.
[09:26]   Augustin : @Kris – 8300 Pe at 72 is a buy for 98?
[09:27]   Shai : for those who got int those 8400 puts yesterday and dy before nice opp to close and keep sl on balance at 8467 F
[09:27]   Shai : seeing resistance at 8467 and 8483 for this open
[09:28]   Kris : @Augustin – probable. I prefer a bit of OTM PE – gives better protection – and – probably equal reward.
[09:28]   Shai : 18735 BNF res
[09:28]   Kris : As I feel – falls better to go for OTM PE and ATM CE for rallies.
[09:28]   Kris : because of VIX increase.
[09:28]   Augustin : Sure Kris. Tks
[09:29]   Ashish : Thanks Shai and Kris
[09:29]   Shai : 8426 support in NF
[09:30]   Shai : below 8426 can drop to 8393
[09:31]   Srini A : Is 18560 support for BNF, Shai? (POC of 1st and 2nd Jul)
[09:31]   Sandeep : shai any trade here or should wait
[09:32]   Kris : Hmm… big green delta again in NF.
[09:32]   Kris : So repeat of last two Mondays?
[09:32]   Venkatesan : what is mis type in zerodha?
[09:32]   Shai : gret chance for the auction to repair the 8430- 8465 poor structure
[09:32]   Venkatesan : kris?
[09:33]   r m : intraday, auto squard off at 15:20
[09:33]   Kris : MIS is intraday order Venkatesan – it gets automatically closed at 3.25
[09:33]   Kris : or 3.20 may be!
[09:33]   Kris : Thanks Rm.
[09:33]   Venkatesan : abbreviation of MIS?
[09:33]   r m : welcome, my timings are approx, normally I manually close before that 🙂
[09:33]   Venkatesan : than kyoyu krins
[09:34]   Sudhakar : in CD it will be @ 3.21 kris &RM
[09:34]   Shai : OAOR open
[09:34]   Venkatesan : thank you rm
[09:34]   Shai : we are waiting …
[09:34]   r m : Thanks Sudhakar
[09:35]   Srini A : @shai, support for BNF?
[09:36]   Kris : This month is result season na?
[09:36]   Vikkas C : yes kris
[09:36]   Shailesh : yes Kris
[09:36]   Sudhakar : ya kris
[09:36]   Vikkas C : and starts from tomo TCS
[09:36]   Sudhakar : from tmrw
[09:36]   Sudhakar : TCS
[09:37]   Kris : Hmm… MO at 69 – not a bad timing to have PE then!
[09:37]   Shailesh : TCS, Asian, all are patients of RK
[09:37]   Shai : Srini 18500 positional
[09:37]   Srini A : Ok, Thanks Shai
[09:37]   r m : @Kris, TCS results tomorrow
[09:37]   Kris : BTW, friends, I am carrying those 7900PE Aug still – and – will continue with them till it reaches 100+ or zero!
[09:38]   Sankar : China trading halted. its a joke or real?
[09:38]   Vivek K : sankar it is a real joke
[09:38]   Sankar : lol Vivek 😀
[09:38]   Ashish : yes kris, i am with you in aug. PE’s 🙂
[09:40]   Sankar : Nice.
[09:41]   RK : GM Shai,RM and all
[09:41]   Kris : Friends – need to get into a meeting – and – do not know how long it runs.
[09:42]   Kris : So – part booked 8200PE at 61. Rest kept TSL at 55. Cancelled buy at 49.
[09:42]   Kris : With zerodha – good volumes – it is a pretty profitable trade.
[09:43]   Ashish : ok kris
[09:43]   Sankar : for rest any tgt in mind or going to leave it till 3:20?
[09:43]   Kris : @Sankar – if comes – between 70-80 we should book.
[09:44]   Kris : But, if we go below 8400 – 82xx has more chances to come in a day or two.
[09:44]   Sankar : Tx Kris.
[09:44]   Ashish : News on Zee business that a big news can come on MAT..
[09:45]   Shai : Buy NF 8440 for 8465/ 8483 sl of 8418
[09:45]   Venkatesan : shai 8434 anamoly also repaired nah?
[09:45]   Kris : Thx friends – need to leave.
[09:46]   Venkatesan : thank u kris, enjojy the meeting
[09:46]   r m : Bye Kris 🙂
[09:46]   Shai : catch up Kris
[09:46]   Ashish : Bye kris,
[09:46]   Shai : looks like some big positional shorts would enter at high levels today if they come
[09:47]   Shai : multi week types
[09:47]   Sankar : Bye Kris.
[09:48]   Sankar : Okie. but orderflow is all green. how do you say big positional shorts Shai?
[09:48]   Shai : at higher levels
[09:48]   Shai : near 8480
[09:48]   Sankar : Ohh.. sorry, they *would* enter.
[09:48]   Sankar : Misread it.
[09:48]   Sankar : Tx Shai.
[09:50]   Shai : very interested to see the auction around 8480 today if t comes
[09:50]   Shai : could have implaications for next week
[09:50]   Shai : implications**
[09:51]   Shai : anybody got those 8400 puts yesterday and day before?
[09:51]   Vikkas C : i did @ 69
[09:51]   Manoj : no
[09:51]   r m : I booked yesterday!
[09:51]   Sumit K : sold @ 117
[09:51]   RK : yday at close got them and closed today at open..just a hedge to absorb fall shock
[09:51]   Porus : yes
[09:51]   Ashish : yes shai, closed today
[09:52]   Tejpreet : sold @119 …had 8500 also but booked yesterday.
[09:52]   Sankar : I got it at 80 sterday.. when 8515 was broke.. closed at 115.
[09:52]   Shai : cool
[09:52]   Shai : can always take punts with the MO at 65 plus
[09:52]   Shai : works 9/10 times
[09:53]   Shai : likewise buy calls when MO is -60 region and hold for 1- 3 sessions
[09:53]   Shai : will deliver
[09:53]   Sankar : but I am carry half longs also, which is from last week, with Sl at 8383 now. have booked half on 6th closing, when u said exit part.
[09:54]   Shai : yes that is a good sl- but we do a review today
[09:54]   Shailesh : MO right now ?
[09:54]   Manoj : shai pls dont get angry but i am holding some serious position in 8500 CE can u please suggest a exit
[09:55]   Sankar : Tx Shai.
[09:58]   Sid : I hold the puts ..
[09:59]   Sid : squared half today at 8425-30 today..
[09:59]   Sid : still holding half qty..
[10:00]   Sid : 8400PE
[10:00]   Shai : on 8500 ce 75 is asupp res at 120/ 137
[10:00]   Manoj : thnks shai
[10:02]   Shai : on that 8400 pe 82 is a positionla sl to watch tgt of the move can be 146/ 173
[10:03]   Shai : buyers
[10:04]   Sid : ok..
[10:06]   Shailesh : aggressive buyers
[10:09]   Shailesh : not much support on buying side @Shai….IB range still undr 50
[10:14]   Varun : shai cn u refresh tick
[10:15]   Shai : sure
[10:23]   Shailesh : Shai view on ib ?
[10:25]   Shai : Open auction but buyer slightly stronger
[10:26]   Shai : retail will think that every dip is a buy as what happened last 2 tmes on gap down
[10:26]   Shai : but feel today may be different
[10:27]   Varun : one small diff
[10:27]   Varun : both the gap down didnt have an excess
[10:27]   Varun : and both first went to test lows, this time testing upper end of ib forst
[10:27]   Varun : lets see
[10:27]   Vikkas C : exact same question i asked in the mrng
[10:27]   Shai : for now longs at dips look ok
[10:27]   Ashish : nice observation varun
[10:27]   Shai : but keep watching the flow
[10:28]   Varun : ib r/e anyside will be a win on such days
[10:29]   Vikkas C : yeah waiting for IB brk on either side and trade ..more biased towards short
[10:30]   Shailesh : Vikkas u r always biased towards shorting same as me..whn mkt goes up it luks gud for short 🙂
[10:31]   Vikkas C : haha
[10:31]   Vikkas C : but i trade only when i sure otherwise pateience is the name of the game
[10:31]   Shailesh : yup thts the mantra here
[10:31]   r m : Vulture is a patient bird 🙂
[10:32]   Shailesh : RM 🙂
[10:32]   Vikkas C : 😉
[10:32]   Venkatesan : shai july series nf positional stop? pl
[10:33]   Shai : Book 50 % intra NF at 8456 place TSL at 8440 on rest
[10:35]   Manoj : ok
[10:36]   Sankar : 🙂
[10:37]   Rahul B : bank nifty below 18700 pointed out to be weak
[10:38]   Shai : yes
[10:38]   Venkatesan : shai nf positional stop pl?
[10:40]   Shai : For the series ? roungly that ld 8330- 8300 zone
[10:40]   Shai : big selling if that breaks
[10:40]   Venkatesan : thank you
[10:41]   Vikkas C : big selling
[10:41]   Shai : Sell BNF near 18665- 18675 sl of 18728 tgt 18600/ 18550
[10:41]   Manoj : ok boss
[10:41]   Shai : sell near mentoned levels
[10:42]   Shai : Yes participats are having ongs in index this series so far
[10:43]   Shai : so forced selling can take place if 8300 goes
[10:45]   Manoj : missed bnf sell????
[10:46]   Manoj : bnf tgt hit but sell not hit ???
[10:52]   Manoj : shai sell again bnf @ Vwap ??? 18630
[10:52]   Kris : Book 75% of 8200PE at 68.
[10:52]   Varun : kris 10.45 fa 😉
[10:52]   Varun : lol
[10:53]   Sankar : I had kept TSL at 55 and got hit Kris 🙁
[10:53]   Varun : jungle wins
[10:53]   Kris : @Sankar – it was mymistake – I should have suggested 51 Day low.
[10:53]   Varun : rabbits run
[10:53]   Vikkas C : big buying at 8410
[10:53]   Sankar : Oh missed the run. Anyways not going to become millionare in one trade. More trades are there 🙂
[10:54]   Sankar : Tx Kris.
[10:54]   Varun : shai cn u refresh data
[10:54]   Varun : tht will i think chnge to stop trigger sell
[10:55]   Vikkas C : hmmm cud be
[10:56]   Kris : If we sustain inside IB for some more time – it is not good for shorts intraday.
[10:56]   Kris : @Varun – may be that green is shorts booking – at IB low!
[10:56]   Varun : we mite reject ib ny 11.15
[10:57]   Varun : cos gap will have a ib r/e 9/10 times
[10:57]   Varun : we failed at top
[10:57]   Varun : so make it 9.5/10 chance of etension
[10:57]   Shailesh : @Varun on lower side?
[10:58]   Varun : imp test of lows now
[10:58]   Varun : should get sellers and nt buyers
[10:58]   Varun : if low goes it culd be a trend
[10:58]   Varun : gone
[10:58]   Varun : somebdoy push the vwap band
[10:59]   Varun : i can see it coming
[10:59]   Srini A : BNF collapsing
[10:59]   Kris : @Varun – the day is so young – why hurry!
[10:59]   Varun : cool
[10:59]   RK : MO at its best shown its potential 🙂
[10:59]   r m : 8370 is next spot support I think?
[10:59]   Varun : i told rm, once it strts cooling it gone
[11:00]   Varun : and here come the poor low
[11:00]   Varun : 🙂
[11:00]   Varun : mentioned yesterday
[11:00]   Varun : revisit
[11:02]   Augustin : @Shai – Can buy 8300 PE above 102?
[11:02]   Augustin : Above that, 127 is the next resistance?
[11:02]   Ashish : LNV
[11:02]   Ashish : LVN
[11:03]   Shai : buy 8300 pe instead around 87-89 tgt 108/ 129
[11:03]   Shai : we missed that BNF sell by 25 points went all he way to 18550
[11:03]   Augustin : Ok. Tks
[11:04]   Shai : 8393 support
[11:04]   Shai : looking at a dip below 8380 spot today on these vols
[11:05]   Shai : Sell NF below 8390 for 8335 sl of 8415
[11:05]   Varun : shai excess did it, it s gone
[11:06]   Shai : wait on that sell
[11:06]   Shai : mkt is moving fast
[11:06]   Manoj : my font chngd ??
[11:06]   Manoj : sorry
[11:07]   Shailesh : look at the volumes cross 17 lakh
[11:07]   Shailesh : and still 15 mins left
[11:07]   Shailesh : or 12
[11:07]   Vikkas C : THIS IS SOME SERIOUS SHIT
[11:08]   Ashish : Shai buyers?
[11:08]   Shai : Sell NF at 8390 and at 8405 in 2 parts sl of 8435 tgt 8325
[11:08]   Ashish : ok
[11:08]   Kris : hmm.. Rm – 77 is high so far in 8200PE.
[11:08]   r m : yes
[11:08]   Venkatesan : varun excess did it pl explai a bit
[11:09]   Kris : I lost transcript – but – this is where I suggested we should book most in the morning.
[11:09]   r m : yep
[11:09]   Vivek K : varun can write a sequel to MOM
[11:10]   r m : (09:43) Kris :@Sankar – if comes – between 70-80 we should book.
[11:10]   Sankar : Yup. You had said 70-80 Kris.
[11:10]   Varun : 🙂
[11:10]   r m : @Vivek 🙂
[11:11]   Manoj : shai keep sell order right ???
[11:11]   Varun : if 8350 goes we do 80 % of 30th’s profile
[11:11]   Shai : (10:27) Varun :both the gap down didnt have an excess.(10:27) Varun :and both first went to test lows, this time testing upper end of ib forst
[11:11]   Shai : (10:26) Shai :retail will think that every dip is a buy as what happened last 2 tmes on gap down.(10:26) Shai :but feel today may be different
[11:11]   Varun : and anyone plays failed auction
[11:11]   Varun : dalton ure god
[11:12]   Varun : 🙂
[11:12]   Varun : we had a fa rite at top of today
[11:12]   Varun : kris helped me with 10.15-10.45 rule
[11:12]   Varun : but the whole thing is tht u have to put many things tghr
[11:12]   Varun : and mind burts at 3.30
[11:12]   Varun : rememebring so many things
[11:13]   Varun : bursts
[11:13]   Shailesh : Sai short here ? or 8390 only?
[11:13]   Shailesh : Shai*
[11:13]   Shai : can take 1 part here
[11:13]   Shailesh : ok
[11:14]   Shai : mkt is moving around- try not to wait for exact points
[11:14]   Shailesh : thanks shai
[11:14]   Varun : vwap bands were pushed by 30 points
[11:14]   Varun : some solid selling happnd
[11:14]   Shai : yes
[11:14]   Shailesh : Shai volumes for this period highest for the day till now or open had more ?
[11:16]   Shai : opening 15 had 24 L
[11:16]   Shailesh : ok more or less similar but vwap band more significanlty moved down as Varun said
[11:17]   Porus : Varun,Kris – what is the 10.15 10.45 rule?
[11:17]   Varun : shailesh u cant compare open vol and 11.15 vol
[11:17]   Varun : 10.15-10.45 r/e fails high probabilty
[11:18]   Shailesh : ya varun i know but looking at the volumes it seems some serius selling took place at this point in time
[11:18]   Varun : yup
[11:18]   Shailesh : supporting the downmove to be priecise
[11:20]   RK : weekly support 8370 is held..
[11:21]   Shai : http://vtrender.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/01.png
[11:21]   Shai : auction met that excess at 8360
[11:22]   Varun : shai if tht excess goes its very ugly
[11:22]   Shai : one more test is what we are playing for
[11:22]   Soumya : how far do you see this fall going shai?
[11:22]   Soumya : positional basis?
[11:23]   Shai : 8280/ 8300 suppot positional spot
[11:24]   Shai : Yes Varun
[11:25]   Tejpreet : So below 8358 a quick scalping move can happen.
[11:25]   Varun : yes see 30ths profile
[11:26]   Varun : first trgt shld be 32, second 8300
[11:26]   Varun : if we do 80 %
[11:26]   Varun : @tej
[11:26]   Tejpreet : Great !!
[11:28]   Varun : looking like a 3 ib day
[11:29]   Varun : bulls only safe above 8416 now
[11:29]   Augustin : @Varun – Whats a 3 Ib?
[11:29]   Vikkas C : ib range X 3 times
[11:29]   Varun : 3 * ib period
[11:29]   Augustin : Ok. Got it. Tks
[11:29]   Nandesh : tgt is 8325
[11:30]   Varun : 2 ib done 🙂
[11:31]   Shailesh : weekly support playing its part
[11:35]   Sandeep : how long thats the question
[11:35]   Shailesh : Shai anything on today’s profile
[11:35]   Shailesh : yup sandeep 🙂
[11:36]   Shailesh : 3rd attempt…
[11:36]   Manoj : any re entry shai ???
[11:36]   Sandeep : looks varun will get his target of 3 ib
[11:36]   Shailesh : varun will get in a way we too 🙂
[11:36]   Shai : some support seen here – can reduce short side and reshort higher if you want
[11:37]   Nandesh : k
[11:37]   Shai : 8364 came after tat 8361 test
[11:37]   Manoj : i cvrd @ 69 sold @ 87 nf
[11:37]   Shai : we will keep shorting all the way to 8410 now
[11:37]   Shai : but keep some position open if you can
[11:37]   Manoj : ok thnks
[11:38]   Shailesh : ok shai thanks for the input
[11:38]   Shai : (11:21) Shai :auction met that excess at 8360. (11:22) Shai :one more test is what we are playing for
[11:38]   Sankar : @Shai, 8435 is the actual SL in system
[11:38]   Shai : yes
[11:38]   Sankar : Tx.
[11:38]   Shai : down on today’s vols till that is taken out
[11:39]   Shai : as we have an excess yesterday and a gap of 20 points today which is also excess
[11:39]   Shai : so support is in graver danger of going at 8380 spot
[11:40]   Shai : we could go down and test 8280 spot in next 1-2 sessions
[11:40]   Venkatesan : shai 8280 is vwap of june?
[11:40]   Shailesh : also in options strong wall @8500 and 8400 Call writing
[11:41]   Shai : 8180 vwap june
[11:41]   Venkatesan : thank you shai
[11:41]   Varun : shai will try to give u ur 8280 today . cos as kris said we r too young at 11.41
[11:42]   Tejpreet : 🙂
[11:43]   Shai : 🙂
[11:43]   RK : Bulls made hard effort to move 8500+ from 8200..it took almost a week..and these nasty bears flip it in one session :).
[11:44]   Porus : RK, you mean ‘we’ nasty bears!:-)
[11:44]   Varun : read my convo with shankar sharma on twitter
[11:44]   Varun : he said entire year gains go on 2-3 seesions
[11:45]   Varun : ppl hate him, but i love him
[11:45]   RK : thats true Varun..thats a threat to a investment..
[11:45]   Varun : for his conviction
[11:45]   RK : 3-5 years built wealth will go in months..
[11:45]   Varun : biggest bear i have ever seen
[11:45]   Sandeep : but of late he has been biased
[11:45]   Ashish : Rm, MO is at 28?
[11:45]   Sandeep : yes varun
[11:46]   Varun : we all are in some way
[11:46]   RK : Porus whoever behind this fall 🙂
[11:46]   Varun : atleast he has the guts to say it and back it on live tv
[11:46]   Vikkas C : +1 VARUN
[11:46]   Sandeep : so currently what is he saying
[11:46]   Sandeep : i mean where are we headed
[11:46]   RK : Yep we need perma heads either side for smooth function of the system 🙂
[11:46]   Sandeep : havent heard for sometime
[11:47]   Varun : he says he likes indian economy but nt the markets
[11:47]   Varun : says no corealtion tht both shld work tghr
[11:47]   Varun : now coems his contra call
[11:47]   Sandeep : okay thats interesting’
[11:47]   Varun : says i like debt now with good order book
[11:47]   Varun : as rate comes down thy will be in turnaround
[11:48]   Varun : everyone hates debt on street
[11:48]   Sandeep : in a way logical
[11:48]   r m : @Ashish, yes MO at 31
[11:48]   Varun : thts y i like him
[11:48]   Sandeep : but for that rates have to start moving downwards
[11:48]   Ashish : Thanks RM
[11:48]   Sandeep : sr\till not break there
[11:48]   r m : welcome
[11:48]   Varun : says thy cant go anywhre else
[11:48]   Sandeep : still
[11:49]   Tejpreet : Shai BN a fresh short now at ibl
[11:49]   Varun : but if ure buyin u buy now
[11:49]   Varun : nt whn turnaround happens
[11:51]   Soumya : so is he on buying mode now?
[11:51]   Varun : some debt ridden companies,
[11:51]   Venkatesan : rk u discharged the patients or still holding?
[11:52]   Varun : he loves tape reading or as w e call order flow
[11:52]   Varun : said those who dnt believe in techincals are gonna fail
[11:53]   RK : Venkat TCS and DR in long rest all turned short..Asian booked full by close yday
[11:54]   Venkatesan : wow good protfolio?
[11:55]   Sripathi : 8400 PE first target met and onway to second target.
[11:56]   RK : Venkat..if you had seen it in morning it would have terrible..all longs…only it makes it good if you trend otherwise..hit at head and foot 🙂
[11:56]   Sripathi : shai any updates on targets
[11:56]   Varun : we will close at lows of the day
[11:57]   Varun : rm when did we last see 4 ib 😉
[11:58]   Srini A : @Shai, Unable to view BNF chart, it has gone to Pataal loka 🙂
[11:58]   Venkatesan : yes rk ur right
[11:58]   Hemant : lol @Srini 🙂
[11:59]   Venkatesan : lol@ srini
[11:59]   Nandesh : ca i sell f agai at higher
[11:59]   Nandesh : exit 8355
[12:00]   r m : @Varun, 11th JUN was last 4IB 🙂
[12:04]   Sankar : Learning question, today around 8408 will u call that as anomoly?
[12:06]   Varun : cool 🙂
[12:07]   Venkatesan : rm please post break up of today profile?
[12:07]   Srini A : @Sankar, I guess thats the doube distribution region.
[12:08]   Suyash : 1200h – 1345h pull back coming?
[12:09]   Shailesh : Syush…yup may be…@Shai ?
[12:09]   Vikkas C : or a faster fall 😉
[12:10]   Shai : Sankar 8416 anomaly
[12:10]   Srini A : Hang Seng down 1550!
[12:10]   r m : @Venkatesan, http://screencast.com/t/1wb7hajOT
[12:10]   Shai : Suyash possible
[12:11]   Suyash : ok shai
[12:11]   Venkatesan : thank you rm
[12:11]   Varun : buying at lows
[12:11]   Sudhakar : @kris 8100 pe exit? mentioned in twitter
[12:11]   r m : welcome, my data is not very accurate Venkatesan 🙂
[12:11]   Nandesh : ca i put tgt of 8325
[12:12]   Sankar : Tx.
[12:12]   Venkatesan : no issues ,just for academic purpose
[12:12]   Venkatesan : @rm
[12:12]   r m : sure
[12:12]   Manoj : can we keep a sell of nf @ 8374-78 range with same sl and tgt
[12:13]   Manoj : just to respect any pullback
[12:13]   r m : @Varun, 11th JUN – http://screencast.com/t/7zcl6FEz5VB1 🙂
[12:14]   Varun : somwht simmilar
[12:16]   Sankar : Why is 8416 anomaly and 8408 not? Bear with me if too novice question.
[12:17]   Manoj : shai & varun shaab loog pls tell can we keep another sell in 8374-78 range with same sl & tgt
[12:20]   Sandeep : vwap out of the window ?
[12:20]   r m : @Sankar, single prints in middle begin from 8416
[12:21]   Sankar : ok. so its the place where it begins.. Thanks RM. I was looking at each and every single prints (was reading from glossary and trying to match those words in live chart 🙂 ).
[12:21]   Sankar : Tx 🙂
[12:22]   r m : 🙂
[12:22]   Shai : yes Manoj a short opp is there upto 8378 F
[12:23]   Shai : same tgts
[12:23]   Soumya : how is mo calculated – mo looks so interesting
[12:23]   Nandesh : k
[12:25]   r m : @Soumya, defintion and calculation here – http://tinyurl.com/7dg3f37
[12:25]   r m : formula is there in excel file we use
[12:28]   Shailesh : Since morning nf was in discount now in premium
[12:30]   Soumya : thank you rm
[12:30]   Soumya : can you also share vtrender’s link about mo
[12:31]   r m : http://tinyurl.com/McOsc
[12:31]   r m : you will need to download this one first
[12:32]   Srini A : Has Europe opened in green?
[12:33]   Manoj : nope deep red
[12:33]   Vikkas C : yes Srini
[12:33]   Tejpreet : Europe is all green
[12:34]   Srini A : Instant reaction here
[12:37]   Tejpreet : Shai if nifty closes above 8380 spot can calls be carried over.
[12:38]   Nandesh : hello
[12:38]   Srini A : BNF attempting IB now
[12:40]   Shai : yes
[12:41]   Manoj : can we also sell bnf @ 18567-87 range
[12:41]   Nandesh : where i put sl
[12:41]   Manoj : for a 100 point trade
[12:41]   Nandesh : mrkt go up
[12:45]   Soumya : thank you rm
[12:46]   r m : welcome
[12:46]   Sankar : @Shai, still Sl for any new shorts will be 8435 on intraday basis or its lower?
[12:50]   Varun : kris this dot com guy i hope nt ur friend
[12:50]   Varun : if he is not, will give it back to him
[12:50]   Sankar : Yup. Kris, you should ignore such guys.
[12:51]   Sankar : seems to be the emotional draining rules 🙂
[12:53]   Nandesh : short f @ 8363 again
[12:54]   Nandesh : nf
[12:54]   Kris : @Varun – I do not know him.
[12:54]   Kris : Do not know why he wants my attention.
[12:54]   Varun : paid n all, uncle aa ge chalo
[12:55]   Sandeep : must be from some analyst
[12:55]   r m : he wants to prove that since he can’t make money from trading, no one else can 😀
[12:55]   Sandeep : they dread people who do well on their ytrades and on top give the same on twitter
[12:55]   Sudhakar : @kris 8100 pe exit?
[12:55]   Sandeep : their business suffers
[13:02]   Madhav : shai can we expect market to close at day’s low?
[13:06]   Shai : yeah more likely
[13:07]   Hemant : Will pull out hair if this somehow ends above day’s high or more 🙂
[13:08]   Sreedhar : Hemant , have excess?
[13:08]   Shai : follow 8393 F LVN now for rest of this week with a 15- 20 point filter in F
[13:08]   Hemant : I have doubts bro
[13:08]   Shai : tgt is 8287 F
[13:09]   Manoj : any fresh trade in bnf shai ???
[13:09]   Sreedhar : @hemant was talking about your hair..
[13:09]   Shai : BNF stop is huge so avoding
[13:09]   Manoj : ohh ok
[13:09]   Shai : moving 18530- 18390
[13:09]   Hemant : Answer remains the same Sreedhar 😛
[13:10]   Sreedhar : ; )
[13:10]   Manoj : sell below 18390???
[13:10]   Manoj : for a 50-80 points trade???
[13:10]   Sankar : lol 😉
[13:11]   Shai : sell below 425
[13:11]   Manoj : ohh ok sl will be 545 right ???
[13:11]   Shai : that profile chart I posted of NF of 01/07
[13:11]   Shai : we are working thse single prints properly
[13:14]   Naveen : Shai 8287 tgt is fortoday or positional?
[13:15]   Shai : positional
[13:17]   Hemant : Sreedhar a beacon of hope for longs will be “exogenous” events (thank you Shai for that) for example, Fed delays rate hike further (IMF asked them to do so)
[13:19]   Hemant : And I hope China stops all out & that money flows in Indian markets and improves the MFI too 🙂
[13:28]   Shai : some buying in NF
[13:29]   Hemant : Shai what would be the resistance for 86/8700 CEs?
[13:29]   Manoj : yes & also a slight & minor recovery in global futures
[13:31]   Shai : 8700 ce 38 and 68 res
[13:32]   Shai : 66 in 8600 ce
[13:34]   Hemant : Ty Shai
[13:34]   Shai : BNF
[13:34]   Srini A : OMG!!
[13:34]   Manoj : OOMMGG
[13:35]   Shai : NF can do 8405
[13:35]   Vivek K : poor low down?
[13:35]   Shai : buying cming again
[13:35]   Shai : yes
[13:35]   VR : 38 on 8700 CE would roughly mean what NF shai?
[13:37]   Manoj : bnf can go up ???? howmuch
[13:37]   Shai : 18620 res
[13:37]   Manoj : ok
[13:37]   Shai : 8405 NF
[13:37]   Shailesh : at vwap now ?
[13:37]   Shai : VR will check
[13:38]   Shai : sudden surge of greens
[13:38]   Sandeep : cshai cover shorts
[13:38]   Shai : yes
[13:38]   Vikkas C : what just happened
[13:39]   Shai : Buy BNF 18560 sl of 18510 tt 18620
[13:40]   Nandesh : where exit?
[13:40]   Shai : NF at cost price – exit here
[13:40]   VR : Thanks Shai, if can pl explain rationale on how you do that. One rough thing to be to go back and check NF at that option price recently. assuming time value won’t distort estimate quite a bit at this stage
[13:40]   Shai : intra dayers nly
[13:41]   Manoj : BNF sl hit
[13:42]   Vikkas C : sorry shai but what is stop for positional on NF
[13:42]   Ashish : reds coming
[13:42]   Shai : BNF
[13:42]   Nandesh : yes
[13:42]   Nandesh : sl tigger
[13:43]   VR : last two 5 min greens could defend this 5 min dip. 4 60+k buyers. max 1 30k sell here.
[13:43]   Hemant : Shai, that 8700 CE and touch 31 here in the coming couple of sessions?
[13:44]   Ashish : Greece PM live
[13:44]   Ashish : on CNBC
[13:44]   Shai : yes BNF did 100 up/ down
[13:44]   Shai : volatility rising
[13:44]   Manoj : bnf took my whole days profits
[13:45]   Nandesh : bf log
[13:45]   Ashish : shai aggressive reds are ooming or profit booking
[13:45]   Nandesh : bnf
[13:46]   Shai : both are there Ashish
[13:46]   Ashish : ok shai
[13:46]   Shai : 1.25 and 1.30 are buyers
[13:46]   Ashish : ok shai
[13:47]   Soumya : shai can you check sun pharma once for longs here?
[13:48]   Shai : cut down all that 8400 pe
[13:48]   VR : Shai, possible intra target this batch of buyers could be looking at?
[13:48]   Shai : Take a 8500 ce speculative call now for 8466 Tom in F
[13:49]   Shai : VR 8425
[13:50]   Shai : soe 1 is buying this LVN
[13:50]   Shai : 9393
[13:50]   Shai : 8393
[13:50]   Sankar : SL for thsi CE Shai?
[13:51]   Sankar : today’s low?
[13:51]   Shai : yes
[13:51]   Sankar : and this CE is bcoz of coming back into range?
[13:51]   Shai : 8417
[13:51]   Shai : those greens were huge
[13:51]   VR : Shai, 38 on 8700 CE would mean roughly 847X on NF
[13:51]   Shai : BNF 🙁
[13:52]   Ashish : WTF
[13:52]   Sankar : yet, it hit Sl and hten zoomed 🙁
[13:52]   Manoj : WTF WTF GOING ON in mkt
[13:52]   Hemant : 🙂
[13:52]   Srini A : Thanks Shai for BNF 🙂
[13:52]   Sankar : 8466 we book all? looks like it will come tday itself 😀
[13:52]   Hemant : Lovelu outing today
[13:52]   Hemant : lovely*
[13:53]   Srini A : I recovered my loss in BNF shorts witth this one!!
[13:53]   Shai : auction is again changing
[13:53]   Srini A : Hemant, your words might come true, looks like
[13:54]   Tejpreet : 22 l plus volume.
[13:54]   Hemant : Srini my reference was the way US mkt recovered before closing last night
[13:54]   VR : Shai, why VOL place holder green. some indication of higher than avg or something?
[13:54]   Srini A : 18650!!
[13:54]   Shai : 8466 to watch
[13:54]   Sreedhar : errrrr bnf..
[13:54]   Manthan : VIX too creashing
[13:54]   VR : top left
[13:54]   Manoj : bnf + mein jayega kya ???
[13:55]   Srini A : BNF will make one nervous wreck!!
[13:55]   VR : 25L vol last bar. damn!
[13:56]   r m : @Srini, it needs 100 point plus stop to trade with some peace 🙂
[13:56]   Srini A : exactly!!
[13:57]   Manoj : enter long again @ arnd 18560
[13:58]   Manoj : ?????
[13:58]   Shai : no
[13:58]   Manoj : ok
[13:59]   Sudhir : with such movement human control is immpossible
[13:59]   RK : positionals who all still surviving with 8435 SL?
[13:59]   Sudhir : flash movement of 20 ts
[14:00]   Vikkas C : im RK
[14:00]   RK : Vikkas lets see if we are saved or not by EOD 🙂
[14:00]   Vikkas C : fingers crossed
[14:01]   Ashish : you guys are short..?? Rk and vikkas
[14:01]   Vikkas C : yup
[14:01]   Ashish : ok vikkas
[14:02]   Shai : 8380 looks protected by this turn of events now on spot
[14:02]   Shai : still 1.5 hours to go
[14:02]   Manoj : can nifty trun green
[14:02]   Shai : thise 1.25 buyers have turned things around
[14:04]   Soumya : So can we go long near 8380 for higher targets, if it comes
[14:05]   Shai : has to hold closing basis as it is weekly
[14:05]   Shai : let ‘s see if they can defend this dip
[14:06]   Nandesh : i hv o ay positio
[14:06]   Nandesh : no any
[14:07]   RK : have to watch order flow here..If we get any big seller and then green bars means quit all longs for the day
[14:07]   Vikkas C : RK let me also know when u quit 🙂
[14:07]   Varun : longs or qit shorts
[14:07]   Varun : rk ?
[14:07]   Vikkas C : shorts
[14:07]   Nandesh : thanx 4 bnf cal
[14:07]   RK : shorts
[14:07]   RK : oops
[14:08]   RK : 8380 holding
[14:09]   Sid : doing nothing shai..just holding 50% of the PE 8400 bought….
[14:10]   Sid : is it sensible to short 8700 calls..@8425-30
[14:10]   Venkatesan : price down and 5mt greeen?
[14:10]   Vikkas C : turn this OF band to pink fast now
[14:10]   Sharad : Vikass jaldi kya hai.. ho jayega
[14:11]   Vikkas C : haha sharad bhai ..BP upar neeche hai ab
[14:11]   Venkatesan : lol@ vikhas
[14:11]   Sharad : control man
[14:11]   Vikkas C : yes sir
[14:11]   Sharad : price is everyday
[14:12]   RK : Vikkas after all its at cost price..why to check the move from low.lets us look at how far from our entry 🙂
[14:12]   Hemant : Vikkas, bhai mere too much of pink already seen, becoming an eye sore 🙂
[14:12]   RK : that keeps the head cool 🙂
[14:13]   Vivek K : digging reason for market mood is like trying to understand spouse mood by looking at face..
[14:14]   Sankar : u guys are always on lighter mood 😉
[14:14]   Venkatesan : mp looks like stinky teath of pawn chewing guy
[14:14]   Hemant : lol @Vivek thats dangerous territory
[14:14]   RK : if 49500 gets company that would be nice..
[14:15]   Sharad : shold be pink in next 1 or 2 candle
[14:15]   Sharad : pink ….
[14:15]   Vikkas C : yes
[14:15]   Vikkas C : agreed RK
[14:15]   Sharad : now straight drive to low side
[14:16]   Sharad : ?????
[14:16]   Vikkas C : big party sharad bhai when in bbay 🙂
[14:17]   Sharad : sure
[14:17]   RK : I’ll be happy if they close at VWAP..dont want Hemant’s hair 🙂
[14:17]   RK : atleast VWAP
[14:18]   Nandesh : can i short again nf
[14:18]   Hemant : RK not pulling out any. Not left with many anyway 🙂
[14:18]   RK : lol
[14:19]   Hemant : Bias creeping in , the long kind
[14:19]   r m : @Hemant, that way bald guys should find trading easy 🙂
[14:19]   Hemant : RM, they sell oil to bald guys these days on promises of hair growth and future haircuts 😛
[14:20]   RK : Hemant I was about to tell that these mkts are very risky to bet hair and it almost threatened you now 🙂
[14:20]   r m : 🙂
[14:21]   Vivek K : rm to make trading easy hair should not be anywhere 🙂
[14:21]   r m : lol
[14:21]   RK : buyers at vwap
[14:21]   VR : it’s also LVN+0
[14:22]   VR : it’s also where buyers showed up big
[14:22]   VR : what’s the word. confluence? 🙂
[14:22]   Sankar : so what profile type is today?
[14:23]   r m : NV
[14:23]   Soumya : wvap is flat from long time
[14:23]   VR : the one that doesn’t fit on screen type. #sorry
[14:23]   Hemant : Hanging by a thread here today RK 🙂
[14:23]   Soumya : what does that mean shai?
[14:23]   r m : Normal variation day so far 🙂
[14:24]   Sankar : Cool..
[14:24]   RK : 🙂
[14:24]   Hemant : And then RM pops out to say “Normal Variation” day today 🙂 BP no longer normal sir! Tilme for a few pills to gobble down
[14:24]   Hemant : 🙂
[14:24]   r m : it wanted to be a DD but those dreams were cut short by buyers 🙂
[14:25]   Vikkas C : alraedy gobbled a few here hemant
[14:25]   r m : Do yoga while trading to restore equanimity 😀
[14:25]   Ashish : hahahaha
[14:25]   Sankar : all anomalies are washed away.
[14:26]   Vikkas C : sankar currentky my trading acc is getting washed away
[14:26]   Vikkas C : hahaha
[14:26]   Sudhakar : 8550 anomaly still left i think @Varun
[14:26]   Sankar : Vikkas, I started good, then red, then recovered, now back to red.
[14:27]   Sankar : all in all, its like treadmill running, I run fast, but not going anywhere 😀
[14:27]   Sandeep : but you burn calories, here are you nit earning green bucks
[14:27]   Sandeep : not
[14:27]   Ashish : common go into IB
[14:27]   Sankar : but initial stage, thats the only consoling point.. staying scratch is better.
[14:28]   Hemant : Doga = dogs doing yoga here 🙂 (Animal lover here, no offence here)
[14:28]   Sankar : this room itself having bears and bulls in equal amount.. how to expect market to move? 😉
[14:28]   Sudhakar : lol @Hemant
[14:28]   Ashish : hahahaha
[14:29]   Kris : Finally back here!
[14:29]   Ashish : anything from your basket kris
[14:29]   Vikkas C : welcome back kris
[14:29]   Kris : Friends – sorry for a messy time line on twitter.
[14:29]   r m : good!
[14:29]   Manoj : welcome kris
[14:29]   Hemant : WB Kris
[14:29]   VR : Shai, dip defended. 14:05 Shai : let ‘s see if they can defend this dip
[14:29]   Kris : Got emotionally disturbed with some unknown.
[14:30]   Kris : Meetings, bad internet did not help.
[14:30]   Vivek K : time fro a drink kris
[14:30]   Vikkas C : kris forget abt it ..no point
[14:30]   Sankar : emotional draings.. ignore them Kris.. no point in even thinking about them.
[14:30]   Sankar : drains*
[14:30]   VR : Kris, twitter timeline is yours. you can do whatever the heck you want with it. not your problem if your followers are idiots. 🙂
[14:30]   Shailesh : 14:26 Sankar : Vikkas, I started good, then red, then recovered, now back to red.
[14:30]   Soumya : Relax Kris.. We all are happy to have you here for us !!
[14:31]   Shailesh : Kris finally give us some ultra fast trades 🙂
[14:31]   Varun : 8416 lakshman rekha now
[14:31]   Varun : aar ya paar
[14:31]   r m : lol
[14:31]   Shailesh : running late by 2 mins on chat
[14:31]   Shailesh : how can this happen ?
[14:32]   Sudhakar : @varun any anomaly @8550
[14:32]   Varun : dnt know
[14:32]   r m : due to data lag, flesh refresh reaching you late
[14:32]   Varun : y worry abt 8550 abhi
[14:32]   Vikkas C : 2nd time rejectinf from IBL
[14:33]   r m : @Shailesh, happens with me most of the days, my reply appears 5 minute after the query and nobody understands what I am referring to 🙂
[14:33]   Venkatesan : varun singles separating the d gone?
[14:34]   Hemant : Cryptic RM 🙂
[14:34]   r m : 🙂
[14:34]   Venkatesan : varun 8416 figure, represent what?
[14:34]   r m : no single prints left, only married ones in the profile 🙂
[14:35]   Ashish : hahaha
[14:35]   Venkatesan : lol@rm
[14:35]   Vikkas C : varun whats ur take now ?
[14:35]   Srini A : hahahaha @RM
[14:35]   Varun : we gt rejecte rite from tht
[14:35]   Varun : 8380/8416
[14:35]   Vikkas C : till now yes
[14:35]   Varun : whtever goes first
[14:35]   Varun : but time short
[14:36]   Vikkas C : cool thanx
[14:36]   Varun : jfi we have a poor low at bottom
[14:36]   Vikkas C : yup had noticed
[14:37]   Venkatesan : (14:35) Varun :we gt rejecte rite from tht , which TPO?
[14:37]   Venkatesan : Varun
[14:37]   Venkatesan : ?
[14:37]   Varun : didnt get u
[14:38]   Varun : if we dnt break out 8416/8380 this is a vwap close
[14:39]   Varun : abv 8420, ib high fa revisit
[14:39]   Ashish : thanks varun
[14:39]   RK : Ashish is keen to push through IB
[14:40]   Vikkas C : majority wants it to go up
[14:40]   Ashish : yes RK
[14:40]   RK : 🙂
[14:40]   Ashish : coming now
[14:41]   Shailesh : @RM now i am logd in once again
[14:41]   r m : ok
[14:41]   Shailesh : net speed is all f**ked up
[14:41]   Varun : rite nw mrket is fkd up
[14:42]   Varun : can no one take it abv 8420
[14:42]   Vikkas C : seriously man
[14:42]   Shailesh : Lol varun 🙂
[14:42]   Shailesh : cant help in tht case
[14:42]   Shailesh : yup i knw
[14:42]   Shailesh : as i mentiond 14:26 Sankar : Vikkas, I started good, then red, then recovered, now back to red. same happend with me
[14:43]   Venkatesan : rm please break up the MP?
[14:43]   Tejpreet : 8420 done now wht varun
[14:43]   Varun : look fr ib high
[14:43]   Vivek K : varun, dalton should pass on some royalty to you
[14:43]   Varun : should nt exit ib low now
[14:44]   Shailesh : 8420
[14:44]   Tejpreet : Great never lnew buying a couple of calls would move it :0
[14:44]   Shailesh : sorry guys net speed is slow ignore
[14:44]   Varun : someone chnge this red delta to green
[14:44]   Ashish : hahahaha Tej
[14:46]   r m : @Venkatesan, ye lo jee, toota phoota profile 😀 http://screencast.com/t/ZlDf1eaG4Yeq
[14:46]   RK : true demo of auction for control here
[14:46]   Varun : kisi ka saata fas gaya hain aaj paka
[14:46]   Varun : big fight going on
[14:46]   Venkatesan : thank you rm
[14:47]   Varun : satta
[14:47]   Shailesh : The moment you develop a view abt market kills tht moment only and emerges with new view
[14:47]   Vikkas C : 8440 seller is turing out to be a big pain in the arse for buyers
[14:47]   Tejpreet : When big fight is on better to sit on side line n watch 🙂
[14:48]   r m : @Vikkas, poor fellow must have spent crores in pushing the market down, does not want to go home empty handed 🙂
[14:48]   Varun : yup
[14:48]   Venkatesan : varun , TPO M and N is what , rejection you r taking about
[14:49]   Vikkas C : 😉
[14:49]   Varun : no ib low i was taking abt
[14:49]   Venkatesan : thank you varun
[14:49]   Vikkas C : RM sir aaj quota hua nahi abhie tak ..hence cribbing ..isko thodo yaaro jaldi jaldi
[14:50]   Vikkas C : prolly NF waiting for master to come back ..
[14:50]   r m : 🙂
[14:50]   Vikkas C : master sahab kuch toh bolo sir
[14:50]   r m : master to yaheen hain, oope ki manjil mein dikh rahe hain na 🙂
[14:51]   r m : *ooper kee
[14:51]   Vikkas C : shaant hai naa ..order dene bolo unko
[14:51]   r m : lol
[14:52]   Vikkas C : looks its going to be vwap close
[14:52]   Vikkas C : RK good reading 🙂
[14:53]   RK : Vikkas many days the move starts at 2.55..so lets wait 🙂
[14:53]   Vikkas C : yup true
[14:53]   Kris : @Varun – dont know if my message received you or not last time – had a net connection problem – what I said then was – I do not know him – and – do not know why he wants my attention.
[14:54]   Varun : ya i got it
[14:54]   Varun : i msged him, no reply yet
[14:54]   Kris : Any way, thanks for the support – I am out of it – with one block button! 🙂
[14:54]   Kris : Coming back to markets – may be till next monday – better to play things intra only.
[14:55]   Manoj : bye all zero position and zeroed all profits in choppiness
[14:55]   Hemant : Shai, can buy 8600 CE here ?
[14:56]   Vikkas C : good job kris with the block 🙂
[14:56]   Venkatesan : manoj , trading in BNF is like trying to board running flight
[14:56]   Kris : For all the bearishness, we are still above 8300 – the vwap of the series.
[14:56]   Sankar : lol. => One block button.
[14:57]   Hemant : Kris, you have a CE hold recommendation if you were looking to go long?
[14:57]   Venkatesan : kris vwap of july series?
[14:57]   Kris : 8600CE – if you want to go long. I personally would wait.
[14:57]   Venkatesan : 8300?
[14:58]   Kris : Today has been a great day. Yesterday morning I got into 8300PE at 51-53. Today exited.
[14:58]   Hemant : Yes Kris, its been an amazing day
[14:59]   Kris : All 8100PE also have been amazingly good. So, time to pause – and – restart.
[14:59]   Hemant : Picked up 0000 CE Dec pure punt pick up 2 lots 🙂
[14:59]   Hemant : 10000 CE I meant 🙂
[14:59]   Venkatesan : 8300, vwap of july?
[15:00]   Venkatesan : kris
[15:00]   Kris : Remember – I carry those 7900PE still – average price is very low ofcourse.
[15:00]   Shai : Buyers are seen defending 8380 F for now
[15:00]   Kris : @Venkatesan- yes – that is what Shai told in the morning na?
[15:00]   Shai : think we go upto 8450/ 8480 F to re-assesss
[15:00]   Venkatesan : thank you keis
[15:00]   Sankar : @Shai, so 8500 CE is carry with today’s low as SL?
[15:00]   Shai : I won’t be surprised if we close friday near 8450 now +/- 20
[15:01]   Shai : (13:48) Shai :cut down all that 8400 pe. (13:48) Shai :Take a 8500 ce speculative call now for 8466 Tom in F
[15:01]   Shai : yes that is the idea
[15:02]   Shai : I would have been more confident if we had done 8480 in the open but we stopped 8460
[15:02]   Shai : so let’s see what happens if we get there up again
[15:02]   Sumit K : can NF longs be taken for tomorrow?
[15:02]   Venkatesan : shai is mp 2day poor high as well poor low?
[15:03]   Shai : weekly plan is off 30 points as of today – we stopped 30 short of 8590 and went 30 below 8370
[15:03]   Shai : but thse are my boundaries for the week still
[15:03]   Shai : Yes Sumit, but Sl is day low
[15:03]   Shai : take near 3.20 always
[15:03]   Ravi Chahal : hos is the MO?
[15:03]   Shai : or abv 8426 now
[15:05]   Kris : Bought 8600CE at 48-49.
[15:05]   Shai : http://vtrender.com/nifty-bn-weekly-view-spot-for-06-july-10-july15/
[15:06]   Varun : who would have thoght tht poc/vwap will over lap
[15:06]   Varun : lol
[15:06]   Shai : yeah on a day like today
[15:06]   Shai : that is rare
[15:06]   Varun : spoilt mt 30 % on capital return to 10 %
[15:07]   Shai : 8396 looks like a closing point on day
[15:07]   Shai : can expect an inside day tomorrow
[15:08]   Varun : lo ji, go for a nice lunch tmrw guys
[15:08]   Shai : 🙂
[15:08]   Varun : ratehr than burning time, and mind here
[15:08]   Varun : we have a poor high and low, mostly both get repaired next day
[15:08]   Varun : lets see
[15:08]   Varun : like fade the extremes day tmrw
[15:09]   Varun : if we repair the poor high first, easy for fall to start
[15:09]   r m : @Ravi, MO at 40
[15:09]   Shai : yes
[15:09]   Shai : and a gap is there too rght abv
[15:09]   RK : So Fryday then this week 🙂
[15:10]   Varun : so rejection fom singles
[15:10]   Varun : more strength
[15:10]   Varun : to fall
[15:10]   RK : Vikkas scratching it here 🙂
[15:11]   Shai : was actually an easy way down till those buyers came at 8365/85
[15:11]   Vikkas C : wondering wat to do
[15:11]   Vikkas C : screw it man booking it once ..will take a fresh call tomo mrng
[15:12]   Varun : at 42 thr was a trap seller, but greedy varun didnt listen
[15:12]   Vikkas C : keeping overnyt is a big pain now a days
[15:12]   Varun : chk oflow at 42
[15:12]   Varun : 8342, second visit
[15:13]   RK : 8340.10 was my order to book Varun 🙂
[15:13]   Varun : aww
[15:13]   Venkatesan : wow gr8 rk
[15:13]   RK : I missed it by whisker
[15:13]   Varun : shai we have singles as gap abv high of today, will it count as poor
[15:13]   RK : Venkat what great Man..I missed booking profit by 1 point trigger 🙂
[15:14]   RK : ok 2 point
[15:14]   Varun : bt u would be still short, 35 didnt go
[15:14]   Venkatesan : ya just reallised low is 42.4
[15:14]   RK : yes still..
[15:14]   Shai : text book does not consider that gap as singles though for us they are and work as singles
[15:14]   Varun : alrite
[15:14]   Varun : cos we dnt have overnite mrkts
[15:14]   RK : 36 was SL order..that also missed by whisker
[15:15]   Varun : and es has
[15:15]   Tejpreet : Shai looks like close below 8380 spot……we have 15 minutes …better to look for calls tmrw or buy now 8500 call
[15:15]   RK : RM day of whiskers..look at DR now 🙂
[15:15]   Shai : avoid new ones Tej- we reasses at open. existing ones holding with day low as stop
[15:16]   Shai : for tom
[15:16]   Tejpreet : Sure …i think first 8287 then any upmove.
[15:16]   Vikkas C : was NF waiting for me to cut my trade
[15:16]   Sankar : shud we exit the calls Shai?
[15:16]   Vikkas C : ullu banaoing man
[15:19]   Tejpreet : Yes Vikkas looks like even big boys today just scalping in afternoon 😉
[15:20]   Vikkas C : 🙂
[15:21]   Shai : Hold Sankar for now
[15:21]   Vikkas C : zilch position here now
[15:21]   Shai : we don’t make it abv 8397 tom open we will get out
[15:21]   Sankar : Okie Captain 🙂
[15:24]   Venkatesan : nf around 20 point premium shai
[15:25]   Shailesh : sellers have liquidated the positions or buyers gave up ?
[15:25]   Shai : yes
[15:26]   Ravi Chahal : nifty on premiun .. what does that signify? @Shai
[15:27]   Ravi Chahal : long bias?
[15:27]   Vikkas C : yes ravi i suppose ..longs in the system
[15:27]   Vikkas C : prolly shai can throw some light on it
[15:27]   Ravi Chahal : ok thanks Vikas
[15:28]   Shai : Ravi/ Vikkas it is not a prven indicator – I try not to read too much in it
[15:29]   Hemant : Well Shai and folks, Ty for the trades, see you all tomorrow 🙂
[15:29]   Shai : 8395 F would have been a better close
[15:29]   Shai : over to the open to accept or reject that now
[15:30]   Soumya : thank you shai
[15:30]   Shai : Bye all
[15:30]   RK : thanks and bye all
[15:30]   Shai : have a nice evening
[15:30]   Sankar : Tx Shai.
[15:30]   Sudhakar : thanks and bye all
[15:30]   Vikkas C : bye shai rm kris and frnds
[15:30]   Soumya : for guiding through this tough day
[15:30]   Tejpreet : Bye All.
[15:30]   Ashish : thanks and bye all
[15:30]   Venkatesan : thank you shai, rm ,kris , varun and fredns
[15:30]   Sankar : Bye RM,Kris,Shai and all 🙂
[15:30]   Porus : bye all
[15:30]   r m : Thanks and bye folks, have a great evening 🙂
[15:30]   Moses : Bye all
[15:32]   Ravi Chahal : bye all
[15:34]   Manthan : bye