OrderFlow charts and Notes 28/01/16

[08:47]   r m : Results today – Bhartiairtel, Dabur, Glenmark, ICICIBank, Maruti, Syndicatebank, Titan, Vedanta,HCC
[08:47]   r m : Results tomorrow – IRB, JSWSteel, LT, NTPC, Siemens, TVSMotor, UPL, Yesbank
[09:21]   Sandesh : hi Shai.. good morning
[09:21]   Sandesh : 09:20 Shai : NO augustin we were planning to buy the 7450 pair to play for a trending move last night
[09:21]   Sandesh : how to play this?
[09:22]   Shai : see if the pair comes around 30/- for a buy
[09:24]   Sandesh : ok
[09:33]   Vikkas : view on tisco pls shai
[09:33]   Vikkas : can it be shorted ?
[09:42]   Vikkas : DRL zooming off
[09:44]   Deepak : Any thought on Sun Pharma
[09:44]   Deepak : its zooming abv yesterday high now
[09:51]   Sudheer : view on sks micro plz?
[09:56]   Vikkas : (09:33) Vikkas :view on tisco pls shai
[09:56]   Vikkas : test
[10:01]   Shai : tata steel headed down to 248/ 245 sl of 259
[10:02]   Shai : sun pharma 835 obj of the volumes – almost there now – around 822 may be a buy again
[10:02]   Deepak : ok
[10:02]   Deepak : thanks
[10:04]   Shai : sks good biuce from 474 – suggest wait for a dip near 495 to buy sl of 472 tgt 524
[10:04]   Shai : bounce*
[10:07]   Vikkas : thanx for tisco 🙂
[10:11]   Porus : Shai, Larsen T levels pls
[10:13]   Shai : LT intra weak below 1101 for 1089/ 1081 – can do 1060 also if stays below 1113 roughy
[10:13]   Shai : 1113 clsoing next few session
[10:13]   Porus : ok
[11:10]   Shai : Maruti watch 4100 – abv that can spike to 4158 quickly else remains weak for 4032/ 4009
[11:12]   Shai : icici- weak below 235 and 231-230 are the objectives. abv 235 can bring 238.8
[11:36]   Sandesh : Shai.. whats your veiw on Just dial? still Feb is at 30 points disount compared with Jan. this difference gonna come down?
[11:46]   Shai : justdial is trending down – next big supp at 686-697
[12:22]   Tejpreet : Maruti does 32
[12:44]   Gaurav : Shai what could be targets for Lupin next series now above 1699?
[12:46]   Shai : lupin good pick here – has a quick run ti 1734 on the cards sl of 1692
[12:47]   Shai : will be a great buy over a 1735 close also this week and can tgt 1770/ 1815
[12:47]   Vikkas : maruti seems to be getting bot at lower lvls ..shai can u chk OF for the same and let is know 🙂
[12:47]   Gaurav : Thanks Shai
[12:48]   r m : “shai [12:38 PM] maruti 4032was my objective off the morning weakness – still feel 4100 is critical and can push it down again to 4030 or force short covering to 4157 (11:10) Shai :Maruti watch 4100 – abv that can spike to 4158 quickly else remains weak for 4032/ 4009”
[12:49]   Vikkas : shai can u pls chk maruti
[12:49]   Vikkas : seems buyers interested in lower lvls
[12:49]   RK : expect swing of 50-100 pre-post results..tough to ride if you are not playing for swing position with wider stop – Maruti
[12:51]   Shai : no buyers but some late shorts got trapped and looks like covered quickly 4040 -45
[12:59]   Sandesh : can take long?
[12:59]   Sandesh : on PNB?
[13:09]   Shai : trending down still pnb can get to 89.9
[13:09]   Shai : unless you have a larger tf in mind avoid till close
[13:09]   Shai : else 86 is sl
[13:13]   Sandesh : thank you
[13:25]   Sandip : are icici numbers out?
[13:28]   Vikkas : thanx shai for maruti
[13:30]   Sandesh : shai.. now can buy? 7450?
[13:31]   Sandesh : expiry punt?
[13:31]   Sandesh : 🙂
[13:32]   Shai : yes can add
[13:32]   Shai : icici not yet
[13:32]   Sandesh : ok
[13:32]   Sandip : thx
[14:31]   Tejpreet : Maruti gives 30 points above 4100.
[14:32]   RK : results out?
[14:32]   Tejpreet : Dont know RK .
[14:33]   RK : if not, then one rejection around 4150 possible
[14:34]   Tejpreet : Thanks RK done with Maruti .
[14:34]   RK : 🙂
[14:34]   Shai : greens have come abv 4100
[14:35]   Shai : yes that 4150- 55 zone res
[14:35]   RK : if that’s taken out then another 100km ride to that 4230-40 milestone
[14:36]   Tejpreet : Maruti still not out.
[14:37]   Tejpreet : Maybe the 100 km ride is an overnight trip 😉
[14:37]   Vikkas : maruti result not out right ?
[14:38]   Tejpreet : Looks like that Vikkas …any TV guy around to tell us.
[14:39]   Vikkas : thanx tej
[15:06]   Vikkas : what happened to hero RK
[15:06]   Vikkas : tanked big

[08:45]   r m : Good Morning folks!
[08:45]   r m : http://vtrender.com/evening-report-trade-dated-27th-jan/
[08:45]   r m : http://vtrender.com/orderflow-charts-and-notes-270116/
[08:58]   Chandramouli : GM all
[08:59]   Shai : GM all
[08:59]   Sumit : GM
[08:59]   Sandip : GM Shai RM all
[08:59]   Shai : NF Hypo1 above 7469➜7512➜7530 SL 7430 NF Hypo2 below 7390➜7363➜7343 SL 7436
[09:00]   Shai : BNF Hypo1 above 15590➜15665➜15744 SL 15520 BNF Hypo2 below 15440➜15375➜15265 SL 15545
[09:00]   Sandip : shai thats feb futures right the hypos?
[09:00]   Shai : Jan F
[09:00]   Sandip : k
[09:03]   Sumit : Calls given on Slack only or here also?
[09:03]   Vikkas : Gdmrng all
[09:03]   Vikkas : Hi RM & Shai
[09:03]   Porus : shai inr is at 68.48. Thats beyond the weekly res. What is the next res?
[09:04]   r m : Hi Vikkas
[09:04]   Shai : 68.54 today- 68.71 positional res
[09:04]   Porus : ok
[09:07]   Suresh : Good Morning all
[09:07]   Augustin : Good Morning all
[09:08]   Tejpreet : GM All.
[09:08]   Arvind : GM all
[09:09]   Shai : in usdinr chart that DD is still visible in current week : http://vtrender.com/usdinr-jan-feb-f-for-25-29-jan-with-tradeable-levels/
[09:09]   Jitender : Gm Shai, Rm, friends:-)
[09:09]   Shai : will update the new chart
[09:09]   SandeepK : GM All
[09:09]   Jitender : tx Shai…
[09:11]   r m : Hi Jitender 🙂
[09:13]   Sandeep : GM everyone….
[09:13]   Tina : Shai can usdinr be bought here for 68.54
[09:14]   Venkatesan : gm shai rm and all
[09:14]   Shai : yes can 68.43 sl below that reshort for 68.34
[09:15]   Tina : thank you
[09:15]   r m : Hi Venkatesan
[09:16]   Shai : flattish open
[09:17]   Tejpreet : 7450 P/C down to 40 from 55 thanks to VIX .
[09:17]   Shai : 7400 ce has supp at 38
[09:17]   Tejpreet : Shai below 30 can we enter.
[09:18]   Shai : if it stays below 35 may get shorted heavily
[09:18]   Shai : if it stays below 32* with sl of 41 on day
[09:19]   Shai : Yes Tejpreet around 30 is our lottery
[09:19]   Tejpreet : Thanks Shai.
[09:19]   Augustin : @Shai – you mean shorting below 30 as lottery?
[09:19]   Shai : 7500 pe has supp at 56
[09:20]   Shai : NO augustin we were planning to buy the 7450 pair to play for a trending move last night
[09:20]   Augustin : Ok
[09:20]   Shai : afternnon*
[09:20]   Augustin : got it
[09:21]   Augustin : 7450 ce/pe
[09:21]   Shai : yes
[09:21]   Augustin : ok
[09:21]   Shai : either we expire at 7440 today or we get a trending 100 point move in last hour is my hypo
[09:22]   Shai : so risk is all 30
[09:22]   Augustin : yeah. read that.
[09:23]   Sandeep : that pair is now 39
[09:23]   Deepak : Hi Shai, i am missing something here. Which pair we are working on
[09:24]   Sandeep : 7450 ce/pe we are just watching as of now
[09:24]   Augustin : @Shai – can that pair be shorted for 10 pts?
[09:25]   Shai : it’s not a trade per se- more of a lottery witha defined risk of 30 and gain somewhere near 60/90
[09:25]   Deepak : yes, that much i understood
[09:25]   Deepak : can you share the strikes
[09:25]   Shai : high risk Augustin – keep a 5 point stop
[09:26]   Vikkas : 7450
[09:26]   Shai : 7450 ce and 7450 pe Jan
[09:26]   Augustin : Ok. Will leave it then
[09:27]   Deepak : its at 40 now
[09:27]   Sandeep : (09:22) Shai :see if the pair comes around 30/- for a buy
[09:28]   Deepak : so buy both, if exiry happens at 7440, then 30 gone. if drive happen and we see 100 rise, we have 60 to gain
[09:28]   Deepak : sounds good
[09:28]   Shai : it’s 40 now
[09:29]   Shai : vol dropping off at the open
[09:29]   Shai : vwap close to yesterday vwap
[09:29]   Sandesh : so buy now?
[09:29]   Shai : so no change in the auction from yesterday
[09:29]   Shai : NF may griind here this morning
[09:30]   Sandip : heavier profit booking in puts than calls..same as yesterday
[09:30]   Shai : 30 cos we need to break either 7410 or 7480 for a breakout
[09:30]   Sandesh : ok
[09:40]   Uttam : good sellers in both NF & BNF in Jan series Shai & no greens in Feb
[09:41]   Uttam : no greens in Feb co-ordinating these reds so fresh shorts or just longs getting out?
[09:41]   Vikkas : we had some heavy long built yesterday at lower lvls
[09:42]   RK : GM Shai,RM and all
[09:42]   r m : Hi RK
[09:47]   RK : BNF Lows of this week 15460,15412,15461* – how long this can stay or what kind of bounce it can offer? 🙂
[09:48]   Sandip : call writing slightly more now
[09:49]   Navaneeth : GM all
[09:49]   r m : @RK, seeing that 15500 JAN Pair is available at 85, not much activity expected 🙂
[09:51]   RK : thats great if happens
[09:58]   Shai : Uttam fairly open auction here
[09:58]   Shai : vols are way below normal
[09:59]   Uttam : yep & OAIR plus expiry so looks to be a small range day except that we could get that big move in the last hour?
[09:59]   Sandip : bnf good reds
[10:00]   Tejpreet : Looks like volumes will come once 7450 C/P hits 30 🙂
[10:14]   Sandip : Shai, rm which are less likely to hit stoploss? you nf/bnf calls or stock calls? 🙂
[10:15]   Sandip : normally i mean
[10:16]   r m : @Sandip, first – no such comparative analysis done and second, stocks levels are given not calls
[10:17]   r m : 🙂
[10:18]   Sandip : yes i meant that only mah bad 🙂
[10:18]   Sandip : trading too much in calls and puts!!!
[10:18]   r m : lol
[10:22]   RK : Sandip if I have to make a list then it will be like – Stock levels, BNF positional, NF positional, Option positional, BNF intra, NF intra 🙂
[10:24]   Sandip : lol rk aap ke paas bahut paisa hai phirr!!:)
[10:24]   Sandip : but ill try shai trading levels in stock also once
[10:26]   RK : Sandip better way to trade stocks, keep your own study and pick up best entries according to you and cross check that with Shai..If he validates, that would be a good trade..
[10:27]   RK : If capital is not an issue, you can trade all stocks discussed in tab I mean whichever he says good..
[10:28]   Sandip : i have my study RK 🙂 but i love shais fundas
[10:28]   Sandip : http://screencast.com/t/oD1V2lQBdSoC
[10:28]   Sandip : this is wat i populate every 3 mins….more work is to be still done on it
[10:29]   Sandip : so on a normal day i keep lookin at these charts and see what happens areound the levels these guys give here
[10:31]   Sandip : but cash only for NF/bnf now….so gotta be carefull
[10:34]   Sandeep : 7450ce/pe alert….near 30 🙂
[10:36]   r m : Thanks!
[10:59]   Shai : nothing happening
[10:59]   Shai : glued to the poc of the series still 7440
[11:02]   Augustin : @Shai – Res/ suppport for 7450pe if shorted
[11:04]   Shai : 7450 ce supp at 9 res at 17 and 27 today
[11:05]   Augustin : ok
[11:05]   Augustin : pe?
[11:05]   Shai : 7450 pe res at 28 supp 16.20 and 8.80
[11:05]   Augustin : Tks
[11:07]   Shai : 7450 straddle at 30 now
[11:07]   Shai : waiting game begins
[11:08]   Shai : addedvolatility is through icici and maruti results today
[11:08]   Porus : and LT tom
[11:09]   Shai : ok
[11:12]   Porus : Shai 7450 p/c in 1:1 ratio?
[11:12]   Shai : yes
[11:13]   Shai : try to stagger the buy in parts
[11:14]   Shai : we have hit price obj at 11.00 am but time wise we staill have to wait till 1 pm
[11:16]   Tejpreet : +1 Have still not taken it as time wise too early.
[11:18]   Shai : yes was expeting 30 aroun 1 pm but vix is dropping hard this morning
[11:31]   Tejpreet : Anyone having any info or links on bots tracking retail positions from client code .
[11:33]   Jitender : tej…major brkrs do…their rms is meant to do fr risk mgmt…but tey do it for operator/contra trade purposes….
[11:33]   Jitender : also
[11:34]   Jitender : i also know frm sources that if u hav an airtel broadband / post paid connection tey spy on yr data also
[11:35]   Jitender : not from tradin perspective but airtel is majorly involved in data collection from host comp
[11:40]   Tejpreet : Thanks Jitender ….i am using airtel 🙁
[11:41]   Jitender : 🙂
[11:42]   Shai : 🙂
[11:43]   Shai : surprised to see vix down today – feb 2 is RBI (tues) and then we go straight to the budget move .when will we spike
[11:43]   Varun : tej let them go contra u, u normally win . #doublecross
[11:43]   Sandip : jitender bro…even i have airtel…although im sure unless we have more than 5 lac capital, we arent spy wothy!!!
[11:43]   Tejpreet : Varun by the time they track my data I am in and out 😉
[11:43]   Jitender : 🙂
[11:46]   Tejpreet : But on a aserious note VPN is the need of the hour to prevent unauthorzed access of your pc data.
[11:51]   r m : mittals are big chors 🙂
[11:51]   Sandip : tej take norton antivirus
[11:51]   Sandip : its good against bots/crawlers
[11:55]   Sandip : the full day is negative for now…..les hope a move til 7410 atlest
[11:55]   Tejpreet : Thanks Sandip …….AV of any kind will slow down your nest , nt7 and data streaming.
[11:57]   Shai : 7450 ce pe still 30
[12:01]   Kathir : Hi all
[12:02]   Jitender : vix has given 22 points on the 74ce/pe feb combo since eod ystrdy
[12:03]   Varun : tej u got ur big monitor
[12:03]   Varun : hw many inches and hw is it ?
[12:04]   RK : Varun check these links http://www.flipkart.com/hp-15-ac178tx-t0z57pa-acj-intel-core-i5-6th-gen-8-gb-ddr3-1-tb-hdd-windows-10-2-graphics-notebook/p/itmeeffdgezkkzca?pid=COMEEFFDQ7QCRXQQ
[12:04]   RK : http://www.flipkart.com/asus-23-inch-vx238h-w-led-backlit-lcd-monitor/p/itmdwtjvhmtfdhgu?pid=MONDWTJV4DYSXHA7
[12:05]   RK : am planning to go for this combo
[12:06]   Jitender : cool
[12:06]   Tejpreet : No varun stll using dell 22 / portable asus 169 MB + (my fav) and laptop 15.6
[12:11]   Tejpreet : RK go for a laptop with SSD …go for smallest 256 gb …cheaper and can use external HDD .
[12:14]   Jitender : vix 17.97
[12:14]   RK : Tej tks..will look aroun
[12:14]   RK : around
[12:15]   Varun : thanks
[12:16]   Varun : btw we did a fa in nf
[12:16]   Varun : unnoticed but traded 😉
[12:17]   Rahul P : varun, how relevant is the FA when IB is small and we have an inside day
[12:17]   r m : 🙂
[12:18]   Varun : dnt have any stats, but path of least resistance meant if ib high cannot be extended ,w e will chl other side
[12:20]   Tejpreet : Feb puts hardly moving thanks to vix.
[12:23]   Navaneeth : sorry to ask,was not in terminal, Any Positional calls open?
[12:25]   Navaneeth : @Rm bro?
[12:25]   r m : No positional call till tomorrow now, nothing open
[12:26]   Uttam : Varun it will be considered FA only if we break the IBL right?
[12:27]   Uttam : sorry it seems we just managed to break IBL too
[12:27]   r m : 🙂
[12:32]   Navaneeth : thnx rm bro
[12:32]   Navaneeth : new to slack. so just getting used to it
[12:33]   Shai : OAIR open plays out – has to break 7455- 7407 for a move here
[12:33]   Shai : 15641- 15457 BNFis still the range after 2 full sessions
[12:34]   Kathir : @shai 7363 possible below 7407??
[12:34]   Shai : writers paradise
[12:34]   RK : Shai stocks are taking supporting and expressing kind of “we will break down any time”
[12:34]   RK : *taking supports
[12:34]   RK : holding those lower band levels
[12:34]   Shai : Kathir 7390/ 7365
[12:34]   Shai : icici could move the BN
[12:34]   Kathir : thanks shai
[12:35]   Shai : patience is employed fully now in the 7450 straddle 🙂
[12:35]   Shai : still 30
[12:37]   RK : 7400 straddle entry 120 exit around 80-85 now 38 🙂
[12:38]   RK : but the right pick was -7200x+7400 @ 80 which also made exit around 60 or something now 30
[12:39]   Tina : Shai are there any new trades open? Where can I see the open trades/new calls
[12:40]   r m : @Tina, no trade open right now
[12:40]   Vikkas : trades for the day can be seen in the announcement tab
[12:40]   Vikkas : and positional trades can be checked on slack
[12:41]   r m : and also in slack channels intraday-index-alerts and positional-alerts
[12:41]   Tina : thanks
[12:43]   Jitender : 7400ce/pe jan 38 now
[12:47]   Sandip : guys fed meeting result was good or bad yesterday?
[12:47]   Uttam : non event as expected I suppose?
[12:47]   Sandip : so europe expected flat to negative then i guess?
[12:48]   Jitender : not as dovish lang as expectd…but essentially non event
[12:48]   Sandip : shai icici could move the bnf down? or up?
[12:49]   r m : depending upon what market thinks of its results 🙂
[12:50]   Sandip : ok results not out yet :)..any idiea if its within mkt hrs?
[12:50]   Jitender : Alert : option pain at 7450
[12:51]   Rahul P : 20 pointer upmove ???
[12:52]   Jitender : its down from 7500 ystrdy
[12:53]   Jitender : yes Rahul probability is tere
[12:54]   Rahul P : cheers
[12:54]   Shai : ok- was just gonna ask if that option pain moved now?
[12:56]   Augustin : @Shai – Nifty Move started?
[12:57]   r m : it is working very hard on operation decay 🙂
[12:58]   Shai : yes has to stay moving now Augustin if it wants to 1 pm
[12:58]   Augustin : ok
[12:58]   RK : just a 5 point move makes everyone ready pull the socks today..Shame on you Nifty! you have some better reputation 🙂
[12:58]   Augustin : 🙂 LOL
[12:58]   r m : @RK, NF taking cue from BNF the leader 🙂
[12:59]   RK : RM leader himself seems settled at Tasmac..just moving legs lying on the floor 🙂
[12:59]   r m : yeah!
[13:00]   Rahul P : missing his signature wrbs
[13:00]   r m : surely went for some spurious stuff from the looks of it 😀
[13:00]   RK : ok Kathir not here today?
[13:00]   r m : he is here, probably busy spotting some TTB trade 🙂
[13:01]   RK : oh OK..Kathir where’s your bet?
[13:01]   r m : at 12:30 he was busy studying stock’s vwap table 🙂
[13:02]   RK : move may start once 7450 straddle comes to 20-22..just an observation based on few expiry earlier
[13:04]   Shai : yes was eyeing that 20- 22 mark, but this rotataion has been here for 2 days now so was not sure whether we get there
[13:05]   RK : Shai we may get it if F moves 10-12 higher from here
[13:05]   Shai : all NF has to do is move in next 2 .25 hours – direction does not matter anymore 🙂
[13:06]   Shai : vwaps are flatlines and bands are coiled
[13:06]   Shai : BNF even more than NF
[13:07]   Shai : RM used to say something about a ruler before – does not say it anymore 🙂
[13:07]   r m : lol
[13:07]   r m : got tired of straight lines 🙂
[13:07]   Shai : yes even the ruler bent 🙂
[13:08]   r m : BNF is having a glorious large developing area of 27 points!
[13:08]   Shai : 🙂
[13:09]   Rahul P : rm, can u post a comppoiste NF chart for last 3 days ?
[13:10]   r m : sure
[13:13]   r m : @Rahul, https://files.slack.com/files-pri/T0F2YRXQT-F0KKC5W2U/nf3daycomposite.jpg
[13:13]   Rahul P : thanks
[13:13]   r m : welcome
[13:14]   Tejpreet : Shai BN 15500 p/c or 7450 P/C ….time to get in .
[13:15]   Shai : I’ve gone with 7450 BN riskier but good still and icici is coming along to move it
[13:16]   Tejpreet : BN is tempting at 68 …75 % n and 25% bn 😉
[13:17]   Shai : indeed looks very good at 70
[13:22]   Kathir : @rk rm sorry bit net issue so late reply
[13:23]   Kathir : @RM a close around 7469 possible ? 🙂
[13:24]   r m : @Kathir, i am working with mobile created hot spot everything else crawling today
[13:24]   Kathir : ok
[13:24]   r m : @Kathir, man gimme 7400 or 7500 for 7450 straddle 🙂
[13:26]   Kathir : granted 🙂 take 7530 from shai
[13:26]   r m : Thanks 🙂
[13:28]   r m : Jitender’s 7400 pair is working
[13:29]   RK : ok we got 23 now..what next? 🙂
[13:30]   Shai : yup equal now at 7450
[13:31]   Uttam : threatening an upside bo?
[13:31]   Jitender : @rm 🙂
[13:37]   Jitender : will sq off all written pos around 2….
[13:38]   Jitender : will buy ten fr eod…
[13:38]   Shai : Positional call : Buy 7600 ce at 67- 69 sl of the trade to be 41 tgt 98/ 108 . Position size this with 1/3 rd now. We will add in 2 more parts friday
[13:38]   Jitender : grt..
[13:39]   Rahul P : feb series
[13:39]   Sandip : europe flat to negative
[13:40]   Shai : 1/3rd is 1% of the risk capital now
[13:41]   RK : rej at VAL and “hello excuse me..someone there at VAH here?” 🙂
[13:42]   Shai : abv vwap and IBH for now
[13:46]   RK : and FA at lows now
[13:48]   Shai : technical neutral day
[13:48]   Shai : does not change anything for the major auction but
[13:49]   Shai : still neutral center or neutral extreme possible
[13:49]   Uttam : BNF feb slowly gaining premium
[13:49]   Shai : or 7440/ rip higher/lower into close
[13:49]   Sandip : bnf nf ppl offloading at top
[13:50]   Sandip : wanna see what happens at vwap
[13:52]   RK : ok someone heard us and written 7450 straddle
[13:52]   Tejpreet : 🙂
[13:52]   RK : 10 bucks in an hour once moved from 7435
[13:55]   r m : another 6 minutes RK, Jitender has promised to square off his written options at 2 PM 🙂
[13:55]   Jitender : lol
[13:55]   RK : oh we have insider then 🙂
[13:56]   Sameer : Plan was to short on gapup(above 7500) for Shai’s target of 7440…US mkt spoiled my plan…no action today
[13:56]   r m : BNF planning attack on IBH
[13:56]   RK : Sameer better to have two plans 🙂
[13:59]   Sameer : No…That is how I trade by predicting sequence of events and start building trade positions when prediction about half of events sequence turns out be right….That way I trade less and with more probability to win 🙂
[14:00]   Sameer : Right now also I will buy 7500 PUT(little) if I get them below 10 between 2:30 to 3:00
[14:01]   Sameer : I mean before 3:00pm
[14:02]   Sandip : slight profit booking in calls
[14:06]   Shai : yup 7500 put at 10 could do well in minutes if it hits there
[14:08]   Shai : vwap has not moved from 7435 all morning
[14:08]   Sandip : what does that mean Shai?
[14:09]   Sandip : vwap not moving? maybe we get test of vwap again?
[14:09]   Shai : 7442 supp – chances of 7483 abv 7459
[14:09]   Shai : No volumes Sandip
[14:09]   Sandip : ok thx
[14:10]   Vikkas : generally vwap and poc together points to a rotational profile but today being an expiry expect the unexpected 🙂
[14:10]   Sameer : Shai u said 7440…But I thought it will close at 7440…But since Morning Nifty is hovering around that level and 7400PE and 7500CE writers minting money
[14:12]   Sameer : I pray that on some expiry date Nifty should make 3-4% intraday move and all writers should loose all money they made over months IN FEW HRS 🙂
[14:12]   Shai : one party may get hurt Sameer- it’s not in the bank yet all that writing
[14:14]   RK : Sameer but that’s highly imposible without event..cos option players are monks with huge cash box and they can do anything on expiry day
[14:15]   RK : monks and monsters combined together 🙂
[14:16]   Augustin : rather than competing with them, lets get one such monk/ monster in our trading room and align 😉
[14:16]   Sameer : so u mean to say if heavey option writting done at ITM Call on expiry day and if some expected positive event happens then also writers wont allow mkt to rise AND vice-versa for PUTs
[14:16]   Sameer : ?
[14:17]   Sameer : I mean UNEXPECTED**
[14:23]   Sandip : guys where does this look like ending ? 7440?
[14:23]   Sandip : bnf?
[14:24]   Shai : heavy sellers i this zone NF
[14:24]   Shai : price tryng abv ah to get new greens not able to see any
[14:24]   Shai : vah*
[14:29]   Shai : another wrb
[14:29]   Shai : moving lower to 7420 now
[14:31]   Shai : 3.05 pm- 35 mins left for the straddle t work
[14:31]   Shai : all over after 3.05
[14:32]   Shai : 14 now
[14:36]   Sandip : bnf below 15500
[14:47]   RK : 2.50 and dVAH/VAH at same place..its trying to get back..
[14:49]   Sameer : ?
[14:52]   Sandip : rk looks like expiry close at 15500 and 7450
[14:53]   Sameer : is there still chance for 7420 for today as Shai said ?
[14:58]   Shai : reduce qty on the 7450 ce / pe – 12 now still – premium drop comes in next 5 mins- keep a small part open
[14:58]   Shai : still AT 11.5
[15:00]   Shai : writers win here
[15:03]   Sandip : holy crap
[15:03]   Vikkas : 100 points thudd in BNF
[15:03]   Kathir : @rm 7450 PE 3 to 12 done 🙂
[15:03]   Vikkas : wow briliant
[15:04]   Jitender : its not holy…its unholy & happens almost evry month
[15:04]   Jitender : ;
[15:04]   Jitender : ;
[15:04]   Tejpreet : Kathir too good .
[15:04]   Kathir : thanks guys
[15:04]   Sandip : bnf put writers got screwed royally
[15:05]   r m : great Kathir 🙂
[15:05]   Kathir : belived shai’s 7420
[15:05]   Jitender : Kathir in from 2.5
[15:05]   Shai : 14 on the pe
[15:05]   Kathir : wow jit
[15:05]   Jitender : but sq off else extra stt
[15:05]   Kathir : thanks RM
[15:05]   Sandip : and like a complete ass i removed180 quant of bnf 15500 pe 🙁 in small profit at 15
[15:06]   Tejpreet : 15500 put sill 64 ;0
[15:06]   Jitender : u to good trade kathir
[15:06]   Jitender : too
[15:06]   Sandip : now 68
[15:06]   Shai : Nice Kathir
[15:06]   Shai : Nice Jitender
[15:06]   Kathir : thanks shai
[15:06]   Jitender : tx Shai…
[15:07]   Shai : exit the straddle getting out 15
[15:07]   Kathir : oops bnf 15400 pe 50m paise to 10m rs..great mis
[15:07]   Sandip : yea i got out early from bnf
[15:08]   Tejpreet : 15500 now out at 94 just 28 points …not worth it .
[15:09]   Jitender : out at 23
[15:09]   Shai : 7420 – came late :(- (14:29) Shai :moving lower to 7420 now
[15:09]   Kathir : great one jit congrats
[15:09]   Jitender : tx buddy..al tx to Shai
[15:09]   Shai : before 2.55 we could have got full price
[15:11]   Jitender : 7420.25 …the m/c listens to Shai:)
[15:11]   Shai : vix bouncing from 17.20
[15:11]   r m : got 114 from that cursed 15500PE, writer were trying to dodge me 😀
[15:11]   Shai : watch 68.32 closing basis on usdinr beow it can show 68.18 tom
[15:11]   Jitender : grt Rm
[15:11]   Jitender : congrats
[15:12]   Shai : Nice RM
[15:12]   r m : Thanks!
[15:12]   Tejpreet : Rm good one …marathon man !
[15:12]   RK : Well done RM,KAthir and Jitender
[15:12]   Jitender : tx Rk
[15:12]   r m : @RK, Kathir is expiry King 🙂
[15:12]   Kathir : thanks RK ..congrats RM bhai
[15:12]   Kathir : 🙂
[15:12]   Jitender : yup Kathir is good
[15:13]   Jitender : but no one can dogde the bee:)
[15:13]   Jitender : dodge
[15:13]   r m : lol
[15:13]   Kathir : 🙂 busy bee
[15:14]   r m : @Jitender you writers are too much, BNF was at 15400 and 15500PE was at 50!!
[15:14]   Jitender : was setting it up for u:)
[15:14]   r m : lol
[15:15]   Kathir : RM another TTB bought 15300 pe 4 paise
[15:15]   r m : @Kathir, Sir, you are unparalleled 🙂
[15:16]   Kathir : 🙂 ji shai’s hypo’s are there to help us
[15:16]   r m : yeah!
[15:16]   Jitender : one must always donate back part of earnings:)
[15:16]   r m : Shai himself would never have thought of milking those hypos like you do Kathir 🙂
[15:17]   r m : falling into a pit!
[15:17]   Kathir : another 50 in bnf will do wonders for that pe
[15:17]   r m : yes!
[15:17]   Jitender : rooting for u Kathir…
[15:19]   Sandeep : feb is up 🙂
[15:19]   Tejpreet : Shai FEB has big greens at lows load up that 7600 call or wit .
[15:19]   Tejpreet : *wait
[15:19]   Shai : moved charts to feb to check vols
[15:19]   Shai : 7600 holding
[15:20]   Vikkas : but arent the greens too less ..better to wait for tomo IB i feel
[15:20]   Shai : BNF looks good to move back to spike highs tom
[15:20]   Shai : looks like institutions covered Janlongs BNF and bought feb
[15:21]   Tejpreet : BN in 15500 call at 350
[15:23]   Shai : don’t forget to square off all short calls ITM –
[15:24]   Shai : In Nov I paid about 7000 stt for about 10 lots I had forgotten
[15:24]   RK : oops
[15:24]   RK : thats huge
[15:24]   Shai : yeah they told me 550- 670 per lot
[15:25]   Shai : spot is at 7425
[15:25]   Shai : series poc
[15:25]   Shai : vwap is near 7520 for Jan
[15:25]   Shai : 15690 BN jan
[15:25]   Shai : spot
[15:25]   Sandip : 7k i thot it was 250 rs per lot fine
[15:26]   r m : @Sandip, that is delivery STT at contract value 🙂
[15:26]   r m : huge amount
[15:26]   Sandip : damnnnnnnnn ….goood to know fact man!!!!
[15:26]   Jitender : if u sell ten don’t need to cover
[15:27]   Jitender : only for buy of ITM options
[15:27]   r m : normally we pay option STT on premium amount only
[15:27]   r m : @Jitender, all rules made by writers 🙂
[15:27]   Jitender : lol
[15:28]   Shai : 15500 stradde went to 123
[15:28]   Shai : 7450 flopped
[15:29]   Sandip : yep…shai straddles are supposed to be left alone till eod?
[15:29]   Jitender : will get it nxt expiry Shai….
[15:29]   r m : @Sandip, Shai once said that on expiry day it is loot and run type of day, take whatever you can grab 😀
[15:30]   RK : 7450 straddle back to cost for me 🙂
[15:30]   Shai : expiry move is generealy 2.20- 2.55
[15:30]   Sandip : i grabbed 2 k im happy with that much loot also :)))
[15:30]   Vikkas : bye all
[15:30]   Vikkas : happy evening
[15:30]   Jitender : bye all
[15:30]   Shai : Bye all
[15:30]   Shai : Have a nice evening
[15:30]   Kathir : thanks and bye al 🙂
[15:30]   Sandip : bye all awesome sessin
[15:30]   Tejpreet : Bye All … and thanks Shai for a phenomenal Jan series ;0
[15:30]   r m : Thanks and bye folks, have a great evening 🙂
[15:30]   Suresh : bye all
[15:30]   Arvind : bye all
[15:32]   Navaneeth : bye all